< Back to Washington Unemployment

Sean Matthews

What disqualifies you from unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm trying to understand all the different ways someone can get disqualified from unemployment benefits in Washington. I know quitting without good cause is one, but what are all the other reasons? I want to make sure I don't accidentally mess up my claim by doing something that would disqualify me. Anyone have a complete list or experience with different disqualification reasons?

The main disqualifications in Washington are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause 2) Fired for misconduct 3) Not able and available for work 4) Refusing suitable work 5) Not actively searching for jobs. There's no income limit for regular UI but you have to have earned enough in your base period.

0 coins

What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My boss was really hostile but I don't have documentation.

0 coins

Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to job duties or pay. Documentation helps but isn't always required - Washington ESD will investigate.

0 coins

The main disqualifications in Washington are: 1) Quitting without good cause 2) Getting fired for misconduct 3) Refusing suitable work without good cause 4) Not being able and available for work 5) Not actively seeking work 6) Fraudulent claims. Each one has specific criteria that Washington ESD uses to determine if you're disqualified.

0 coins

What exactly counts as 'suitable work'? I don't want to accidentally refuse something I should have taken.

0 coins

Suitable work generally means jobs that match your skills, pay at least 70% of your previous wage (after first 5 weeks), and are within reasonable commuting distance. The criteria get broader the longer you're on benefits.

0 coins

The main disqualifications in Washington are: voluntary quit without good cause, discharge for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not being able and available for work, and not actively seeking work. There's also fraud, not meeting wage requirements, and being self-employed without meeting specific criteria.

0 coins

What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My supervisor was creating a hostile work environment but I don't have much documentation.

0 coins

Good cause includes unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to job terms, or health issues. Document everything you can remember with dates and witnesses if possible.

0 coins

The main disqualification reasons I know are: 1) Quitting without good cause connected to work 2) Getting fired for misconduct 3) Refusing suitable work without good cause 4) Not being able and available for work 5) Not actively searching for work. There's also stuff about fraud and not reporting earnings correctly.

0 coins

Thanks! What exactly counts as 'misconduct' though? Is being late a few times enough?

0 coins

Misconduct has to be willful and substantial. Being late occasionally usually isn't enough unless it's a pattern and you were warned.

0 coins

I got disqualified for 'not being available for work' because I couldn't work certain shifts due to childcare issues. Washington ESD said I had to be available for all types of work in my field. It was frustrating because I was definitely looking for work, just had some scheduling constraints.

0 coins

Did you appeal that decision? Seems like childcare should be a valid reason for some scheduling limitations.

0 coins

Yes, I appealed and won! The judge said my restrictions were reasonable. But it took 2 months to get resolved.

0 coins

If you need to reach Washington ESD about disqualification issues or appeals, I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Really helped when I was trying to understand my disqualification.

0 coins

The main disqualifications in Washington include: quitting without good cause, being fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not being able and available for work, not actively seeking work, and fraudulent claims. For hostile work environment, you'd need to document it well to prove good cause.

0 coins

I did document some of the hostile behavior in emails to HR. Would that be enough proof for good cause?

0 coins

Email documentation to HR is exactly what you want. Keep copies of everything and any responses from HR too.

0 coins

The main disqualifications include: quitting without good cause, getting fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work without good cause, not being able and available for work, and not actively searching for work. There are also issues around not being a US citizen or authorized to work, providing false information, and receiving other benefits that conflict with UI.

0 coins

What counts as 'misconduct' exactly? My coworker was always late but they said it was misconduct.

0 coins

Misconduct includes things like repeated tardiness, insubordination, violation of company policies, dishonesty, or actions that harm the employer's interests. Being late occasionally isn't misconduct, but chronic tardiness can be.

0 coins

The main disqualifications in Washington include: quitting without good cause, being discharged for misconduct, refusing suitable work without good cause, not being able and available for work, not actively seeking work, and committing fraud. There's also failure to report earnings or other disqualifying income.

0 coins

What exactly counts as 'misconduct' though? Is being late a few times enough to disqualify you?

0 coins

Misconduct has to be willful and substantial. Occasional tardiness usually isn't enough unless it's chronic and you were warned repeatedly.

0 coins

There are several main categories that will disqualify you from Washington unemployment benefits. The big ones are: 1) Quitting without good cause 2) Being fired for misconduct 3) Not being able and available for work 4) Refusing suitable work 5) Not meeting job search requirements. For misconduct, Washington ESD looks at whether you willfully violated company policy or did something that harmed your employer's interests.

0 coins

What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? Is it pretty strict?

0 coins

Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or personal reasons like domestic violence or needing to care for a sick family member. But you usually need documentation to prove it.

0 coins

The main disqualifications in Washington are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause connected to work, 2) Discharge for misconduct, 3) Not able and available for work, 4) Not actively seeking work, 5) Refusing suitable work without good cause, 6) Labor dispute involvement, 7) Receiving certain types of severance or pension payments. Each has specific criteria Washington ESD uses to determine if it applies.

0 coins

Thanks! What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My cousin had to quit because her boss was making the workplace really hostile.

0 coins

Good cause includes harassment, unsafe working conditions, significant changes to job duties or pay, domestic violence situations, and a few other specific circumstances. She should document everything and be prepared to explain the situation to Washington ESD.

0 coins

You can definitely appeal a disqualification! I got disqualified initially because they said I quit without good cause, but I appealed and won. You have to request an appeal within 30 days of getting the determination letter.

0 coins

How long did your appeal take? Did you need a lawyer?

0 coins

Took about 6 weeks total. I didn't use a lawyer, just gathered all my documentation and explained my side clearly at the hearing.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work search requirements! If you don't do your required job search activities each week, they can disqualify you. You need at least 3 job search activities per week in Washington.

0 coins

Wait, I thought it was just 2 job search activities? When did it change to 3?

0 coins

It's been 3 for a while now. You need to log them in your WorkSourceWA account too.

0 coins

The main disqualification reasons in Washington ESD are: 1) Quitting without good cause connected to work 2) Being fired for misconduct 3) Not being able and available for work 4) Refusing suitable work without good cause 5) Not meeting job search requirements (3 job contacts per week) 6) Fraud or misrepresentation. Each one has specific criteria Washington ESD uses to determine if it applies.

0 coins

Thanks! What exactly counts as 'good cause' for quitting? I've heard it's pretty strict.

0 coins

Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties or pay, harassment, or compelling family reasons. Washington ESD looks at whether a reasonable person would have quit under the same circumstances.

0 coins

There's quite a few ways to get disqualified. The main ones are: quitting without good cause, getting fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not being able and available for work, not actively searching for jobs, failing drug tests, and fraud. Also if you're not a US citizen or don't have work authorization.

0 coins

What counts as 'suitable work'? Like if I made $25/hour before, do I have to take a $15/hour job?

0 coins

After the first few weeks you generally have to consider work that pays at least 80% of your previous wage. But there are exceptions for things like major commute distance or if it's way outside your skill set.

0 coins

The main disqualifications in Washington are: quitting without good cause, getting fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not being able and available to work, and not actively searching for jobs. There's also issues with wages not meeting requirements.

0 coins

What counts as 'misconduct' exactly? Is being late a few times enough to disqualify you?

0 coins

It has to be willful misconduct connected to work. Being late occasionally usually isn't enough unless it was repeated after warnings and showed deliberate disregard for your job duties.

0 coins

Quitting doesn't automatically disqualify you, but it depends on the circumstances. If you quit for 'good cause' related to the work or workplace, you might still be eligible. Hostile work environment could qualify, but you'd need to prove it during the adjudication process.

0 coins

What kind of proof would I need? I have some text messages from coworkers about the situation, but nothing official.

0 coins

Text messages could help, also any emails, witness statements from coworkers, or documentation you filed with HR. The key is showing you had no reasonable alternative but to quit.

0 coins

dont forget about the work search thing! i got disqualified because i missed logging some of my job contacts. you have to do 3 job search activities per week and keep detailed records. washington esd is super picky about this

0 coins

How detailed do the job search records need to be?

0 coins

very detailed - company name, contact person, date, method of contact, position applied for. they can audit you anytime

0 coins

don't forget about the work search requirements - you have to apply to 3 jobs per week and keep a log. if you don't do that they'll disqualify you real quick

0 coins

Is it really 3 jobs every single week? That seems like a lot if there aren't many openings in your field.

0 coins

Yes, it's 3 job contacts per week unless you're in a union hiring hall or certain training programs. You can expand your search area or consider related fields if needed.

0 coins

Main disqualifications in Washington include: being fired for misconduct, quitting without good cause, not being able and available to work, refusing suitable work, or not meeting the work search requirements. Your freelance work should be fine as long as you report it correctly.

0 coins

What counts as 'misconduct' exactly? I got written up once for being late but it wasn't a pattern.

0 coins

Misconduct has to be willful or deliberate. One write-up for tardiness usually isn't enough unless it was part of a pattern or you violated a clear policy you knew about.

0 coins

I got disqualified because I couldn't get through to Washington ESD to report that I had started part-time work. Missed the reporting deadline by one day and boom - overpayment notice. Finally used Claimyr to get through to an agent who helped me explain the situation. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

0 coins

Wait, you can get disqualified just for not reporting work on time? Even if you were trying to report it?

0 coins

Yeah, they're strict about reporting deadlines. But if you can explain the circumstances to an actual person, they might reverse it. That's why getting through by phone is so important.

0 coins

How much does that Claimyr thing cost? Seems like you shouldn't have to pay extra just to talk to Washington ESD.

0 coins

Here's the complete list of disqualifications: Voluntary quit without good cause, discharge for misconduct, not able/available, refusing suitable work, failure to register with WorkSource, inadequate work search, fraud, receiving other benefits that offset UI. Each has specific criteria and some can be temporary vs permanent.

0 coins

What's considered 'suitable work'? Do I have to take any job offered or can I be picky about salary?

0 coins

Suitable work considers your skills, experience, and prior wages. Generally after 13 weeks you may need to accept work at 75% of your previous wage, but there are protections against having to take just any job.

0 coins

I've been dealing with Washington ESD disqualification issues for months and the hardest part is actually getting through to someone who can explain your specific situation. The automated system just gives you generic responses. If you're facing a disqualification, I found this service called Claimyr that actually gets you connected to real Washington ESD agents. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows exactly how it works. Made all the difference for me when I needed to understand why my claim was flagged.

0 coins

How much does something like that cost though? I'm already struggling financially.

0 coins

It's way cheaper than losing weeks of benefits while you're stuck in limbo trying to reach someone. The time and stress it saves is worth it when you're dealing with disqualification issues.

0 coins

I've been dealing with Washington ESD for months trying to get through to someone about my disqualification. If you do get denied, you can appeal, but getting someone on the phone to explain the decision is nearly impossible. The wait times are insane and half the time they just hang up on you.

0 coins

Have you tried using Claimyr? I found out about it recently and it actually got me through to a real Washington ESD agent. They have a service that handles the calling for you - check out claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

0 coins

Never heard of that but at this point I'm willing to try anything. How much does it cost?

0 coins

They focus more on the value of actually getting through rather than the cost. For me it was worth it just to finally talk to someone who could explain what was happening with my claim.

0 coins

The main disqualifications are quitting without good cause, being fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, or not meeting work search requirements. Your situation with reduced hours might qualify as 'good cause' for leaving.

0 coins

What counts as 'good cause'? My hours went from 35 to 8 per week and I couldn't pay rent.

0 coins

Substantial reduction in hours usually qualifies as good cause. You should be fine on that one.

0 coins

The main disqualifications in Washington are: 1) Misconduct at work (stealing, violence, repeated policy violations), 2) Quitting without good cause, 3) Not meeting work search requirements (3 job contacts per week), 4) Refusing suitable work without good reason, 5) Not being able and available for work, 6) Fraud or misrepresentation on your claim. There are also wage/hour requirements - you need to have earned at least $7,000 in your base year.

0 coins

Thanks! What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My friend said she quit because of harassment but still got denied.

0 coins

Good cause includes unsafe working conditions, harassment, discrimination, significant changes to job duties/pay, or domestic violence situations. If she quit due to harassment, she should appeal and provide documentation like emails, witness statements, or HR complaints.

0 coins

There are several main categories that Washington ESD uses for disqualifications. The big ones are: 1) Misconduct - this includes things like theft, violence, or repeatedly violating company policies after warnings. 2) Voluntary quit without good cause - if you quit your job for personal reasons that aren't related to work conditions. 3) Not able and available - if you can't work due to illness, lack of transportation, or other barriers. 4) Refusing suitable work - turning down job offers that match your skills and pay reasonably. 5) Not actively seeking work - failing to make the required job contacts or skipping WorkSource appointments.

0 coins

What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My friend quit because her boss was creating a hostile work environment but got denied.

0 coins

Good cause includes things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or health issues caused by work. Your friend should definitely appeal that decision with documentation of the hostile environment.

0 coins

Being convicted of a felony while receiving benefits will disqualify you, and so will being in the country illegally. Also if you're receiving certain other benefits like workers comp you might not be eligible.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work search requirements - if you don't do your required job contacts each week that's grounds for disqualification too.

0 coins

How many job contacts do you need per week? I keep hearing different numbers.

0 coins

It's 3 job search activities per week in Washington, and they have to be documented in your WorkSourceWA account.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work search requirements! You can get disqualified for not doing enough job search activities each week. In Washington you need to complete 3 job search activities per week and keep detailed records. I learned this the hard way when they audited my job search log.

0 coins

How strict are they about the job search thing? I've been applying but not keeping great records.

0 coins

Very strict! Keep everything - applications, networking contacts, job fair attendance, training activities. They can ask for your records anytime and if you can't prove you did the work, you'll get disqualified.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work search requirements! If you don't do your 3 job search activities per week and keep proper records, that can disqualify you too. Washington ESD is pretty strict about this.

0 coins

Wait, is it 3 per week? I thought it was 5? I've been doing 5 this whole time...

0 coins

It's 3 per week for most people, but some WorkSource participants might have different requirements. Better to do more than required though!

0 coins

Good to know about the 3 per week. I've been worried I wasn't doing enough.

0 coins

Don't forget about the voluntary quit waiting period! Even if you have good cause, there's usually a waiting period before benefits start. And if you're on any kind of medical leave or can't work full time, that can disqualify you too.

0 coins

How long is the waiting period usually?

0 coins

It varies but typically 5-10 weeks depending on your situation and how much you earned before quitting.

0 coins

I got disqualified for not reporting some part-time work I did. Even if you only make $50, you HAVE to report it on your weekly claim. They found out through some database matching system and hit me with fraud charges.

0 coins

How did they find out? I'm scared I might have missed reporting something small.

0 coins

They cross-reference with employment records. Better to over-report than under-report. I had to pay back everything plus penalties.

0 coins

This is exactly why I use Claimyr when I need to talk to Washington ESD about reporting issues. Their service at claimyr.com helped me get through to an agent who explained exactly what I needed to report. Way better than trying to call on my own.

0 coins

The main disqualifying factors include: quitting without good cause, being fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not being able and available for work, not actively seeking work, and failing to register with WorkSource. There are also specific requirements around job search activities that you have to meet each week.

0 coins

What exactly counts as 'misconduct' when it comes to being fired? Is it just criminal stuff or other things too?

0 coins

Misconduct includes things like repeated tardiness, insubordination, violating company policies, or willful disregard of employer interests. It doesn't have to be criminal - just behavior that shows you weren't meeting basic job expectations.

0 coins

I got hit with a misconduct disqualification last year because of attendance issues at my old job. Even though I thought the policy was unfair, Washington ESD sided with the employer. The key thing is they look at whether you willfully violated workplace rules or policies. Simple mistakes usually don't count as misconduct, but repeated violations do.

0 coins

Did you appeal it? That seems like something you could fight.

0 coins

I tried but it was hard to get through to Washington ESD to even start the appeal process. Spent weeks calling and either got busy signals or got disconnected after being on hold forever. Eventually found this service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual person - they have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

0 coins

I've been dealing with Washington ESD for months and honestly the hardest part is just getting through to someone to explain your situation. The automated system hangs up on you constantly. I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually gets you connected to ESD agents without waiting on hold for hours. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me so much frustration when I needed to discuss my disqualification.

0 coins

Is that legit? Sounds too good to be true with how impossible it is to reach ESD.

0 coins

Yeah it's real. I was skeptical too but it actually worked. Way better than calling 50 times a day and getting hung up on.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work search requirements! You need to do at least 3 job search activities per week and keep detailed records. I got a warning letter because my job search log wasn't specific enough.

0 coins

What kind of activities count toward the 3 weekly requirements? I've been mostly just applying online.

0 coins

Online applications count, but you can also do things like attend job fairs, networking events, or informational interviews. The key is documenting everything with dates and specific details.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work search requirements! You have to be actively looking for work and keep a detailed job search log. If you're not doing 3 job search activities per week, that can disqualify you too.

0 coins

Is there a specific format for the job search log or can I just keep my own records?

0 coins

Washington ESD has their own format they prefer, but as long as you track employer name, date, position, and type of contact, you should be fine. Just be consistent.

0 coins

I had trouble reaching Washington ESD when I needed clarification on whether my situation would cause a disqualification. Spent hours on hold. Finally found this service called Claimyr that helps you get through to ESD agents - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ and their site is claimyr.com. Made it so much easier to get answers about my specific case.

0 coins

How does that service work? Do they just call for you or what?

0 coins

They handle the calling process and connect you directly with an ESD agent. No more sitting on hold for hours or getting disconnected. Really helpful when you need to discuss complex eligibility questions.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work search requirements! You can get disqualified if you don't do enough job search activities each week or don't keep proper records. In Washington it's 3 job search activities per week minimum.

0 coins

What counts as a job search activity? Is just applying online enough or do you need to do other stuff too?

0 coins

Applications count, but you can also do things like attending job fairs, networking events, taking skills assessments, or contacting employers directly. Just keep good records of everything.

0 coins

honestly the whole system is set up to disqualify people. I got denied initially because they said I was fired for 'misconduct' even though I was just 5 minutes late a few times. Had to go through a whole appeal process.

0 coins

That's rough. Did you win your appeal? I'm worried about the same thing happening to me.

0 coins

Yeah I won but it took 3 months and I almost lost my apartment waiting for the money.

0 coins

If you're struggling to get through to Washington ESD during an appeal, I found this service called Claimyr that helped me get connected to an actual agent. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

0 coins

Don't forget about the income requirements too. You need to have earned enough wages during your base period to qualify. I think it's something like $3,000 in one quarter and total wages of at least 1.5 times your highest quarter earnings.

0 coins

Is there a way to check if you meet the wage requirements before filing?

0 coins

Yeah, you can look at your wage history on the Washington ESD website when you file. It shows all your reported wages from the past 18 months.

0 coins

Being fired for attendance issues could be considered misconduct depending on how Washington ESD views it. Were you given warnings about the tardiness?

0 coins

Yes I had two written warnings but my car kept breaking down. Does that matter?

0 coins

Transportation issues can sometimes be mitigating circumstances, but repeated tardiness after warnings might still be considered misconduct.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work search requirement! You have to be actively looking for work and keep a log. If Washington ESD audits you and you can't prove you're searching, that's a disqualification too.

0 coins

How many jobs do you have to apply for each week? I keep hearing different numbers.

0 coins

It's typically 3 job search activities per week, but it can vary based on your situation. Activities include applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking, etc.

0 coins

REFUSING SUITABLE WORK IS A BIG ONE!!! They offered me a job that paid way less than my previous one and I turned it down thinking it wasn't suitable. WRONG! Washington ESD said it was suitable because it was in my field and the pay was within their guidelines. Got disqualified for 6 weeks. Make sure you understand what 'suitable work' means before turning anything down.

0 coins

What makes work 'suitable'? Is there a specific pay threshold?

0 coins

Suitable work depends on your skills, experience, and how long you've been unemployed. Early in your claim period, suitable work is usually jobs similar to your previous work at 80% or more of your previous wage. After time passes, the requirements become less restrictive.

0 coins

Being unavailable for work is a big one that people don't think about. If you're going on vacation, getting surgery, or can't work certain shifts, you need to report that properly or you could get disqualified.

0 coins

What if you're sick for a few days? Do you have to report that too?

0 coins

Yes, if you're not able to work on any day during your claim week, you need to answer 'no' to the able and available question for those days. It might affect your payment for that week.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work search requirements! You have to apply for at least 3 jobs per week and keep a detailed log. If Washington ESD audits your claim and you can't prove you were actively looking, they'll disqualify you and make you pay back benefits.

0 coins

This is why I love using Claimyr (claimyr.com) when I need to talk to Washington ESD about anything confusing. Their service helped me get through to an agent who explained exactly what counted for my work search log. Way better than trying to call myself and getting hung up on.

0 coins

Never heard of that service. Does it actually work? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my adjudication.

0 coins

Yeah it really works. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it connects you. Saved me hours of calling and redialing.

0 coins

you also get disqualified if you dont meet the base period wage requirements. you need to have earned at least $4,653 during your base period and have wages in at least two quarters

0 coins

What if you worked multiple part-time jobs? Do those wages all count together?

0 coins

yes all W-2 wages count together as long as they were reported properly

0 coins

don't forget about the work search requirements - you have to do 3 job contacts every week and keep records. if you miss weeks or don't have proper documentation they can disqualify you

0 coins

What if you're on standby status? Do you still need to do job searches?

0 coins

No, standby is different - you don't need to search for work if you have a specific return date within 12 weeks

0 coins

Here's the complete list from Washington ESD: 1. Voluntary quit without good cause 2. Discharge for misconduct 3. Refusal of suitable work 4. Not able and available for work 5. Insufficient work search 6. Fraud or willful misrepresentation 7. Aliens not authorized to work 8. Students (with some exceptions) 9. Receiving certain other benefits like workers comp 10. Self-employment income above certain thresholds

0 coins

What about if you get a part-time job while on unemployment? Can that disqualify you?

0 coins

Part-time work won't disqualify you but you have to report all earnings. If you make more than your weekly benefit amount plus $5, you won't get any unemployment that week. But you can still file your weekly claim.

0 coins

BE CAREFUL about reporting earnings late though. Even if it's an honest mistake, Washington ESD treats late reporting as potential fraud and can disqualify you.

0 coins

I got disqualified for refusing a job offer that paid 30% less than my previous job. Apparently it was still considered 'suitable work' according to Washington ESD. Had to go through the whole appeal process. If you've been unemployed for a while, they lower the bar for what's considered suitable.

0 coins

Did you win your appeal? That seems unfair if it was such a big pay cut.

0 coins

Yeah I did win eventually, but it took months. The key was showing the job wasn't in my usual occupation and the pay cut was unreasonable for my skill level.

0 coins

also if you lie on your application or weekly claims that's fraud and they'll disqualify you permanently plus make you pay everything back with penalties... i know someone who didn't report some cash work they were doing and got caught

0 coins

How do they catch things like unreported work?

0 coins

they cross reference with tax records, do random audits, sometimes employers report it... not worth the risk

0 coins

This is all so confusing. What if you're sick and can't work for a week - does that disqualify you?

0 coins

Being temporarily unable to work due to illness doesn't permanently disqualify you, but you wouldn't be eligible for benefits during that period since you're not 'able and available.' You'd need to report it.

0 coins

I had surgery last year and Washington ESD put my claim on hold until I could work again. Wasn't a disqualification, just a temporary pause.

0 coins

Another big disqualifier is if you're not physically able to work or not available for work. This includes things like being in school full-time, having transportation issues that prevent you from accepting jobs, or having medical issues that limit your ability to work. Washington ESD requires you to be able and available for full-time work to qualify for benefits.

0 coins

What about part-time school? I'm thinking about taking some classes while looking for work.

0 coins

Part-time is usually okay as long as it doesn't interfere with your ability to accept work. But you need to report it on your weekly claims and be prepared to explain how you'll handle work conflicts.

0 coins

The job search thing is no joke. You HAVE to do 3 job search activities every week and keep detailed records. They can audit you at any time and if you can't prove you did the searches, instant disqualification. I learned this the hard way.

0 coins

What counts as a job search activity? Just applying for jobs?

0 coins

Applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking events, career workshops, creating profiles on job sites. But you need to keep specific records - company name, contact person, date, method of contact.

0 coins

And they actually check this stuff! My cousin got audited and had to provide all his job search logs going back 3 months.

0 coins

WASHINGTON ESD WILL DISQUALIFY YOU FOR LITERALLY ANYTHING!!! I got disqualified because I didn't answer my phone during 'business hours' when they called to verify my identity. Apparently being at a job interview wasn't a good enough excuse. The whole system is designed to deny benefits and save the state money.

0 coins

That sounds really frustrating. Were you able to appeal it?

0 coins

Still waiting on my appeal hearing. It's been 6 weeks. The whole process is a nightmare.

0 coins

Another big one is if you're attending school full-time. Washington ESD usually disqualifies students unless you're in an approved training program. I made this mistake and had to pay back $2,800 in benefits.

0 coins

What about part-time classes? I was thinking of taking a night class.

0 coins

Part-time is usually okay as long as it doesn't interfere with your ability to work full-time. But you should check with ESD first to be safe.

0 coins

don't forget about the work search requirement - you have to be actively looking for work and document it. if you're not doing that they can disqualify you even if your initial claim was approved

0 coins

How many jobs do you have to apply for each week? I heard it changed recently.

0 coins

It's 3 job search activities per week in Washington. Can be applications, interviews, networking events, job fairs, etc. You have to keep a log of everything.

0 coins

Let me add some specifics about the misconduct category since that seems to be what affected your cousin. Washington ESD considers misconduct to be things like: chronic tardiness, insubordination, violating safety rules, theft, harassment, being under the influence at work, or deliberately poor performance. It has to be something that shows willful disregard for your employer's interests - not just poor performance due to lack of skills.

0 coins

So if someone was just bad at their job but trying their best, that wouldn't be misconduct?

0 coins

Correct. Incompetence or inability to perform the job isn't misconduct unless you can prove they were deliberately performing poorly.

0 coins

Working while on unemployment can also disqualify you if you don't report it properly. Even small cash jobs need to be reported. If they find out later, it's considered fraud and you'll owe everything back plus penalties.

0 coins

How do they find out about unreported work?

0 coins

They cross-reference with other agencies, employers report wages, sometimes tips from coworkers. It's not worth the risk.

0 coins

Exactly. Always report any work, even if it's just one day. You can still get partial benefits if you work part-time.

0 coins

income reporting is another big one that trips people up. if you work part time while collecting UI you have to report every penny you earn. even odd jobs or gig work. if washington esd finds out you didn't report income they'll hit you with an overpayment and potentially fraud charges

0 coins

What if you forget to report something small like $20 from selling something online?

0 coins

technically you're supposed to report all income. they probably won't catch $20 but if they do it could cause problems

0 coins

Income reporting is huge too. If you work part-time while on benefits and don't report it correctly, or if you work and earn too much in a week, you can get disqualified. Always report ALL income, even small amounts.

0 coins

What's the income limit? I picked up a small gig and made $200 last week.

0 coins

There's no hard limit - it depends on your weekly benefit amount. Generally if you earn more than 1.5 times your weekly benefit, you get no payment that week. But always report it regardless.

0 coins

You can also get disqualified if you're not legally authorized to work in the US, or if you're receiving certain other benefits that conflict with unemployment.

0 coins

What other benefits conflict? Like disability?

0 coins

Yeah, if you're getting Social Security disability or workers comp, that can affect your unemployment eligibility depending on the circumstances.

0 coins

I got disqualified last year for 'not being available for work' even though I was looking. Turns out having limited availability (I could only work certain hours due to childcare) counted against me. Had to appeal and it took forever to get through to someone at Washington ESD to explain my situation.

0 coins

How did you finally get through to them? I keep hearing about people waiting hours on hold.

0 coins

Honestly, I used this service called Claimyr that helps you get through to Washington ESD agents. They have a system that calls for you and connects you when an agent picks up. Found it at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me hours of calling.

0 coins

Never heard of that but sounds interesting. Did it actually work?

0 coins

Yeah, got connected within like 20 minutes instead of spending my whole day redialing. Worth it when you need to resolve disqualification issues quickly.

0 coins

they also disqualify you if you lie on your application or weekly claims. saw someone get caught lying about why they got fired and had to pay everything back plus penalties

0 coins

How do they find out if someone lies? Do they call your employer?

0 coins

Yes they contact employers for verification. Always be honest - the penalties for fraud are way worse than just being denied.

0 coins

I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks to get clarification on my disqualification but can never get through. The phone system is impossible. Anyone have tips for actually reaching a human there?

0 coins

I had the same problem until I found Claimyr. It's a service that helps you get through to Washington ESD agents. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me hours of calling.

0 coins

Is it expensive? I'm already broke from being unemployed.

0 coins

It's worth it compared to spending days trying to get through on your own. They handle all the calling and waiting for you.

0 coins

I've been helping people with Washington ESD issues for years. The most common disqualifications I see are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause 2) Discharge for misconduct 3) Refusing suitable work offers 4) Not meeting work search requirements 5) Not being available for work. Each has specific criteria and appeal rights.

0 coins

What about if you're going to school? Does that automatically disqualify you?

0 coins

Not automatically, but you have to prove you're still available for work. Full-time students often have trouble meeting the 'available for work' requirement unless they can show flexibility in their schedule.

0 coins

I got temporarily disqualified for not reporting some part-time work I did. Even though it was just a few hours and didn't pay much, Washington ESD considers it fraud if you don't report ALL earnings. Had to pay back benefits plus penalties.

0 coins

Yikes! How much trouble did you get in? Was it hard to fix?

0 coins

Had to pay back about $800 in benefits plus a 15% penalty. It was my fault for not understanding the reporting rules, but the penalty seemed harsh for an honest mistake.

0 coins

This is exactly why I'm paranoid about reporting everything correctly. The system doesn't seem very forgiving of mistakes.

0 coins

What about getting fired for performance issues vs misconduct? Is there a difference?

0 coins

Yes, huge difference. Poor performance or inability to do the job usually won't disqualify you. Misconduct is willful violations of company policy or criminal behavior. Performance issues are generally not disqualifying.

0 coins

That's good to know. I was worried about a bad performance review I got last year.

0 coins

Don't forget about the voluntarily leaving work category. Even if you have a good reason to quit, you still need to prove it was 'good cause' connected to work. Things like wanting a career change, moving for personal reasons, or quitting because you don't like your boss usually won't qualify as good cause.

0 coins

What about quitting because of COVID concerns? Does that still count as good cause?

0 coins

That's more complicated now. Early in the pandemic it was easier to prove good cause for COVID-related quits, but now Washington ESD expects you to work with your employer on safety measures first.

0 coins

Don't forget about drug testing! If you fail a pre-employment drug test for a job referral, that can disqualify you from benefits. Also if you refuse to take a drug test when required.

0 coins

Wait, they can require drug tests for unemployment?

0 coins

Not for getting benefits, but if you're referred to a job that requires drug testing and you fail or refuse, that can affect your eligibility.

0 coins

Don't forget about the earnings disqualification! If you make too much money in part-time work while claiming, that can affect your benefits or disqualify you entirely.

0 coins

What's the limit on earnings? I might pick up some freelance work while job hunting.

0 coins

You can earn up to your weekly benefit amount plus $5 before it starts reducing your benefits. Anything over that and your benefits get reduced dollar for dollar.

0 coins

Make sure you report ALL earnings when you file your weekly claim, even if it's just $20. Not reporting income is fraud.

0 coins

I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks to ask about my disqualification but their phone lines are always busy. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to someone there?

0 coins

I had the same problem until I found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com. They basically call Washington ESD for you and get you through to an actual person. I was able to get my disqualification issue resolved after using them. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

0 coins

That sounds too good to be true. How much does it cost?

0 coins

It's worth it when you consider how much time you save not sitting on hold for hours. Plus getting your benefits sorted out faster pays for itself.

0 coins

I got disqualified once for missing my WorkSource appointment. Even though I called ahead to reschedule, they said I had to appeal it. The whole process was a nightmare and took forever to get through to someone at Washington ESD.

0 coins

I had similar issues getting through to Washington ESD. I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually gets you through to real agents. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me hours of calling.

0 coins

Really? How does that work? I'm always getting busy signals or hung up on.

0 coins

It basically handles the calling and waiting for you, then connects you when they get an agent on the line. Super helpful for situations like appeals or getting disqualifications reversed.

0 coins

Here's something people don't realize - if you move out of state and don't tell Washington ESD, that can cause issues. You have to be available for work in Washington's labor market generally.

0 coins

But you can collect unemployment if you move to another state right? I thought there was some interstate agreement.

0 coins

Yes, but you need to notify them and follow specific procedures. Can't just disappear and keep filing claims.

0 coins

I had a similar issue with Washington ESD when trying to get through to someone about a disqualification. After weeks of busy signals, I found claimyr.com which helped me actually reach an agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Made the whole process much easier.

0 coins

How does that work exactly? I'm worried I'll need to talk to someone if they question my application.

0 coins

It basically helps you get through the phone queue without sitting on hold for hours. Really helpful when you need to explain your situation to an actual person.

0 coins

The job search requirements can disqualify you too if you're not careful. You have to make at least 3 job contacts per week and keep detailed records. They can audit your job search log at any time.

0 coins

What counts as a valid job contact? Just applying online or do you need to actually talk to someone?

0 coins

Online applications count as long as you're applying to jobs that match your skills and experience. But they also want to see networking, attending job fairs, contacting employers directly, etc. Variety is key.

0 coins

I got a warning letter because I was only applying to jobs that were way above my experience level. They said I wasn't making a genuine effort to find work.

0 coins

Criminal background can also affect your eligibility for certain jobs, which might impact your 'suitable work' requirements. If you have restrictions on where you can work, that could complicate things.

0 coins

Do you have to disclose criminal history to Washington ESD when filing?

0 coins

Not unless it directly affects your ability to work. But if you're turning down jobs because of background check issues, that could be a problem.

0 coins

Other disqualifications include not being able and available for work, not registering with WorkSource, failing drug tests, or committing fraud. Make sure you're honest on your application.

0 coins

What does 'able and available' actually mean? I keep seeing this but it's confusing.

0 coins

It means you're physically and mentally capable of working and actively seeking employment. You can't be on vacation or have restrictions that prevent you from accepting suitable work.

0 coins

Immigration status can also affect eligibility. If you're not authorized to work in the US, you can't collect unemployment. Also, if you leave the state or country for extended periods without notifying Washington ESD, that can cause issues with your claim.

0 coins

Good point about travel. How long can you be out of state before it becomes a problem?

0 coins

You need to report any travel over 3 days to Washington ESD. Extended travel can make you 'not available for work' which is a disqualification. Short trips are usually okay if you report them properly.

0 coins

refusing suitable work is tricky because what's 'suitable' changes over time. In the first few weeks you can be picky about salary and job type, but later on you have to accept jobs that pay less than your previous job.

0 coins

How much less? Like if I was making $25/hour do I have to take anything above minimum wage eventually?

0 coins

Generally after 5 weeks you need to accept work paying at least 75% of your previous wage, and after 13 weeks it drops to jobs paying at least the state minimum wage. But there are exceptions for certain professions.

0 coins

If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to clarify any of these rules, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you get through to an actual agent. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ and the site is claimyr.com. Way better than trying to call for hours and getting disconnected.

0 coins

How does that work exactly? Do they just call for you?

0 coins

They handle the calling and waiting, then connect you when an agent is available. Saved me so much time when I needed to discuss my disqualification issue.

0 coins

The misconduct thing is tricky. It's not just being a bad employee - it has to be willful disregard of the employer's interests. Things like chronic tardiness, insubordination, violating safety rules, or dishonesty can qualify as misconduct.

0 coins

I got fired for attendance issues but still got approved for benefits. Apparently just being bad at your job isn't misconduct unless you're doing it on purpose.

0 coins

Exactly! There's a difference between inability to perform and willful misconduct. If you tried your best but just weren't good at the job, that's not disqualifying misconduct.

0 coins

Don't forget about the earnings reporting! If you do any work while collecting benefits, you MUST report it even if it's just a few hours. Not reporting work income is fraud and will definitely disqualify you.

0 coins

What about gig work like Uber or DoorDash? Do those count too?

0 coins

Absolutely yes! Any income from gig work, freelancing, or self-employment needs to be reported when you file your weekly claim.

0 coins

I thought I would be disqualified because I was fired for being late too many times, but Washington ESD said it wasn't misconduct since I had transportation issues and tried to resolve them. Really depends on the specific circumstances.

0 coins

That's encouraging! I was worried any firing would automatically disqualify you.

0 coins

Nope, they look at whether it was willful misconduct or just performance/attendance issues beyond your control.

0 coins

Another big one is refusing suitable work. Washington ESD expects you to accept work that pays at least 70% of your previous wage (or minimum wage if higher) and matches your skills and experience. Refusing without good cause = disqualification.

0 coins

What if the job is way below your skill level though? Like if you're an engineer and they offer you a cashier job?

0 coins

Early in your claim, you can refuse work that's significantly below your skill level. But after several weeks, the standards become less strict and you may have to take lower-level work.

0 coins

Don't forget about the waiting week! Even if you qualify, there's usually a one-week waiting period before benefits start. It's not technically a disqualification but it catches people off guard.

0 coins

Is the waiting week every time you file or just the first time?

0 coins

Just once per benefit year, but if you stop claiming and start a new claim later, you might have to serve another waiting week.

0 coins

Misconduct disqualifications are tricky too. It's not just being fired - Washington ESD has to determine you deliberately violated company policy or acted against your employer's interests. Things like tardiness, poor performance, or honest mistakes usually don't count as misconduct.

0 coins

What if you got fired for attendance issues? Is that misconduct?

0 coins

Depends on the circumstances. If you were chronically late without good reason and ignored warnings, that could be misconduct. But if you had transportation issues or medical problems, probably not.

0 coins

THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO DENY PEOPLE! They'll find any excuse to disqualify you. I got denied because I supposedly didn't respond to a request for information that I NEVER RECEIVED. Fighting it now but it's been a nightmare.

0 coins

That's so frustrating! Did you check your SecureAccess Washington account? Sometimes they send notices there instead of by mail.

0 coins

Yeah I check it religiously now but there was nothing there either. I think they just make stuff up sometimes.

0 coins

Don't forget about the earnings requirement - you need to have earned a certain amount in your base period or you won't qualify at all. I think it's around $4,000 total with at least $1,000 in your highest quarter.

0 coins

Those amounts sound about right. Also your base period is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file.

0 coins

How do I know if I've earned enough? Is there a way to check before filing?

0 coins

The 'able and available' requirement trips people up. You have to be physically and mentally able to work, and actually available during normal business hours. If you're taking classes or have restricted availability, that can disqualify you.

0 coins

I'm in school part-time, does that automatically disqualify me?

0 coins

Not automatically, but you have to prove you're still available for work. If your classes interfere with normal work hours or you're not willing to quit school for a job, that's a problem.

0 coins

Medical issues can also cause problems if they prevent you from working. You have to be 'able and available' which means physically and mentally capable of working. If you're too sick to work, you might not qualify for unemployment - you'd need disability instead.

0 coins

That seems backwards - when you're sick is when you need help the most!

0 coins

I know it seems unfair, but unemployment is specifically for people who are able to work but can't find work. Disability benefits are for people who can't work due to medical conditions.

0 coins

if you have any doubts just apply anyway. worst case they say no and you appeal. better to try than assume you're disqualified

0 coins

Good point. I guess I was overthinking it.

0 coins

Other common disqualification reasons include: not having enough work history or wages in your base period, being unavailable for work (like if you're in school full-time), or failing a drug test if your employer had a policy. The freelance work you mentioned should be reported when you file your weekly claims, but it won't disqualify you as long as you report it honestly.

0 coins

Wait, being in school can disqualify you? I'm taking some online classes to improve my skills while job hunting.

0 coins

It depends on the schedule. If it's full-time or interferes with your availability to work, it could be an issue. Part-time or online classes that don't limit your job search usually aren't a problem.

0 coins

Mine are just evenings so should be fine. Thanks for clarifying!

0 coins

Criminal background can also disqualify you from certain benefits or make it harder to meet work search requirements. If you're a registered sex offender or have certain felonies, there are additional restrictions on what jobs you can apply for, which can affect your ability to meet the job search requirements.

0 coins

I didn't know criminal history could affect unemployment benefits. Is this something they check automatically?

0 coins

They don't automatically run background checks for regular UI claims, but it can come up if there are questions about your work search activities or suitable work requirements.

0 coins

Income restrictions can also disqualify you! If you work part-time while claiming, you have to report ALL earnings. Even small amounts can affect your benefits, and not reporting them is considered fraud which is an automatic disqualification.

0 coins

What if you do gig work like Uber or DoorDash? Does that count as self-employment?

0 coins

Yes, gig work is considered self-employment income and has to be reported. The rules are tricky - sometimes you can still get partial benefits depending on your weekly earnings.

0 coins

Another big one is if you're receiving severance pay or vacation payout. That can delay or disqualify benefits depending on how it's structured.

0 coins

Really? I got 2 weeks severance, does that mean I can't file?

0 coins

You can still file, but your benefits might be delayed until after the severance period ends. It depends on how your employer reported it.

0 coins

The system is so confusing honestly. I got disqualified once because I misunderstood the 'able and available' question and answered it wrong for like 3 weeks straight. Had to go through a whole appeal process to get it fixed.

0 coins

What was confusing about the able and available question?

0 coins

I thought it was asking if I was currently working, not if I was ready and able to accept work. Small difference but it matters a lot to ESD apparently.

0 coins

If you do get disqualified, don't just give up! I got initially denied for 'voluntary quit' but I appealed and won because I had good cause (unsafe working conditions). The appeals process exists for a reason and Washington ESD doesn't always get it right the first time.

0 coins

How long did your appeal take? I'm worried about the time without benefits.

0 coins

Mine took about 6 weeks total. If you win the appeal you get back pay for the whole period, so it's worth fighting if you believe you qualify.

0 coins

Being enrolled in school can disqualify you unless you're in an approved training program. Washington ESD has specific rules about when students can collect benefits.

0 coins

What about evening classes or weekend courses?

0 coins

Part-time education that doesn't interfere with your availability for full-time work is usually okay. But you need to report it when you file your weekly claims.

0 coins

Medical restrictions can disqualify you too if you can't perform your usual work and aren't available for other suitable work. I learned this the hard way when I had surgery and couldn't do physical labor anymore.

0 coins

Did you have to provide medical documentation to Washington ESD?

0 coins

Yes, they required doctor's notes and had me go through a whole process to determine what work I could still do. It was a nightmare of paperwork.

0 coins

Immigration status can also affect eligibility. You need to be authorized to work in the US, and there are specific rules for different visa types. Not everyone realizes this applies to their situation.

0 coins

Do you need to be a citizen or just have work authorization?

0 coins

Work authorization is sufficient, but you need to have it for the entire period you're claiming benefits. If your work authorization expires, you become ineligible.

0 coins

Immigration status matters too. You need to be legally authorized to work in the US to qualify for unemployment benefits. Washington ESD will verify your work authorization.

0 coins

What documents do they need to verify work authorization?

0 coins

Usually your Social Security card and driver's license, or other documents that prove identity and work authorization. Same as what you'd provide for any job.

0 coins

IMPORTANT: If you do get disqualified, you can appeal! You have 30 days from the date on the disqualification notice. Don't just accept it if you think it's wrong. I successfully appealed a misconduct disqualification last year.

0 coins

How hard is the appeal process? Do you need a lawyer?

0 coins

You don't need a lawyer but it helps to be prepared. Gather all your documentation, witness statements if you have them, and be ready to explain your side. The hearing is usually by phone.

0 coins

If you need help reaching Washington ESD about your appeal or getting clarification on the process, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier really does work. I used it when I was confused about my appeal deadlines.

0 coins

What if you're going to school? I heard that can disqualify you because you're not 'available' for work.

0 coins

Part-time school usually doesn't disqualify you as long as you're still able and available for full-time work. Full-time school is trickier - you might need to be in an approved training program.

0 coins

Good to know, I'm only taking evening classes so I should be okay.

0 coins

been dealing with a disqualification for 'job refusal' even though the job was completely different from what I do. washington esd said I should have taken it anyway since I've been unemployed for 6 months. this system is ridiculous

0 coins

You can appeal that decision. After 6 months, they do expand what's considered suitable work, but it still has to be reasonably related to your skills and pay a fair wage.

0 coins

already filed an appeal but who knows how long that will take. meanwhile no benefits

0 coins

Another big one is not participating in required reemployment services. If ESD refers you to WorkSource for additional help, you have to participate or you'll get disqualified.

0 coins

How do you know if you've been referred to reemployment services?

0 coins

You'll get a notice in your eServices account and usually by mail too. It's called a REA (Reemployment and Eligibility Assessment) appointment and it's mandatory.

0 coins

Another thing - if you move out of Washington state, you need to notify Washington ESD immediately. Working in another state while collecting Washington benefits without proper authorization is fraud and will definitely disqualify you.

0 coins

What if you just move within Washington? Do you need to update your address?

0 coins

Yes, always update your address in your Washington ESD account. They need current contact info for any correspondence about your claim.

0 coins

I got disqualified initially because they said I quit voluntarily, but I was able to appeal and win. The key was providing documentation that showed my employer was violating labor laws and creating an unsafe work environment. The appeals process took forever though.

0 coins

How long did the appeal take? I'm worried about being without income for months if I have to fight it.

0 coins

Mine took about 8 weeks from filing the appeal to getting the hearing scheduled, then another 2 weeks for the decision. But if you win, they backdate the payments to when you first applied.

0 coins

Here's a more complete list from my experience dealing with Washington ESD: Voluntary quit without good cause, discharge for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not able/available, inadequate work search, unreported earnings, going to school full-time without approval, leaving the state without permission, immigration status issues, and various fraud-related disqualifications.

0 coins

Wow, there are more ways to get disqualified than I thought! The school one surprises me - I thought education was encouraged.

0 coins

You can go to school while on unemployment, but it has to be approved training or part-time. Full-time school usually makes you unavailable for work, which disqualifies you.

0 coins

When I had questions about potential disqualifications, I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Really helped me understand the rules before I made any mistakes.

0 coins

Immigration status matters too. You need to be authorized to work in the US. And if you leave the country for vacation or family emergencies, you need to report that because you're not available for work during that time.

0 coins

How long can you be out of the country before it affects benefits?

0 coins

Any time you're not available for work should be reported. Even a weekend trip technically needs to be reported if it affects your availability.

0 coins

I had a friend who got disqualified because she turned down a job that paid 75% of her previous wage. Washington ESD said it was 'suitable work' even though it was a significant pay cut. After a few weeks of unemployment, you're expected to consider jobs that pay less than what you were making before.

0 coins

How much of a pay cut do you have to accept?

0 coins

I think after the first few weeks you have to consider jobs paying at least 70% of your previous wage, and it gets lower the longer you're unemployed.

0 coins

Here's something people don't realize - you can be disqualified for not responding to Washington ESD requests for information quickly enough. They'll send you forms or requests for documentation and if you don't respond within the deadline (usually 10 days), they can disqualify you even if you eventually provide the information.

0 coins

This happened to me! I was traveling and didn't check my mail for a week. By the time I saw their request it was too late.

0 coins

That's exactly why I always tell people to check their Washington ESD account online frequently and make sure their mailing address is current.

0 coins

The 'suitable work' thing is tricky. After a certain period, you might be required to accept jobs that pay less than your previous job. Refusing what ESD considers suitable work can disqualify you.

0 coins

How much less? Like any minimum wage job?

0 coins

It's usually a percentage of your previous wage and depends on how long you've been unemployed. After 13 weeks, they might expect you to accept jobs paying 75% of your previous wage.

0 coins

And 'suitable' also considers your skills, experience, and commuting distance. They can't force you to take a job 2 hours away unless that's reasonable for your area.

0 coins

What about quitting due to harassment or unsafe working conditions? Does that count as 'good cause'?

0 coins

Yes, those can be good cause if you can document the issues and show you tried to resolve them with your employer first. Washington ESD looks at whether a reasonable person would have quit under those circumstances.

0 coins

Good to know. I was worried about quitting my toxic job but sounds like I might have a case for good cause.

0 coins

I got disqualified for not responding to a fact-finding interview. They sent me a letter asking about why I was fired and I didn't respond in time. Make sure you always respond to ESD correspondence immediately!

0 coins

How long do you have to respond to those letters?

0 coins

Usually 10 days from the mail date. But don't wait - respond as soon as you get it. I learned that lesson the expensive way.

0 coins

Can you get disqualified for going to school? I want to take some classes but I'm worried it might affect my benefits.

0 coins

Generally no, as long as you're still able and available for work. But if school interferes with your ability to accept work or do job searches, that could be a problem.

0 coins

Good to know. I was thinking about evening classes so it shouldn't interfere.

0 coins

Here's a comprehensive list of disqualifying factors: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause 2) Discharge for misconduct 3) Refusing suitable work without good cause 4) Not able and available for work 5) Failure to register for work or participate in reemployment services 6) Fraudulent misrepresentation 7) Receipt of disqualifying income 8) Alien status issues 9) Students under certain conditions 10) Labor dispute involvement

0 coins

What counts as 'suitable work'? Can they force you to take any job even if it pays way less than your previous job?

0 coins

Suitable work considers your skills, experience, and the local job market. Generally they can't force you to take work that pays significantly less than your previous job, especially early in your claim.

0 coins

The suitable work standards get stricter the longer you're on unemployment though. What's suitable at week 1 is different from week 20.

0 coins

Medical issues can also affect eligibility. If you become unable to work due to illness or injury, you might need to switch to disability benefits instead of unemployment.

0 coins

That makes sense. You have to be able to work to get unemployment benefits.

0 coins

Got disqualified for 'refusing suitable work' even though the job paid way less than my previous one. Apparently in Washington, after a certain period, you have to accept jobs that pay less. Anyone know exactly how that works?

0 coins

Generally, after 5 weeks you may need to accept work paying 75% of your previous wage, and after 13 weeks it drops to 70%. But there are exceptions for safety, transportation issues, etc.

0 coins

Wish I had known that before I turned down that job offer. Now I'm appealing the disqualification.

0 coins

The appeal process is so confusing. I tried calling Washington ESD dozens of times to understand my disqualification notice but could never get through. Finally used Claimyr to reach an agent - they have this system where they call you back when an agent is available. Check out their demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ

0 coins

don't worry too much about the retail job firing, I got approved even after being fired for poor performance. Just be honest about what happened

0 coins

That's reassuring. Did they ask for a lot of details about why you were fired?

0 coins

they asked basic questions but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be

0 coins

School attendance is another tricky one. If you're going to school full time, Washington ESD might consider you not available for work. Part time school is usually okay but you need to prove you can still work full time hours.

0 coins

What about job training programs? My cousin was thinking about taking some classes.

0 coins

Some training programs are actually approved by Washington ESD and can help your claim. Look into their training programs or WorkSource WA - they might even pay for training while you collect benefits.

0 coins

WASHINGTON ESD MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND ALL THIS STUFF! I spent hours reading their website and still don't know if I qualify. The system is designed to confuse people so they don't apply.

0 coins

I felt the same way but honestly just filing and seeing what happens might be easier than trying to figure it all out beforehand.

0 coins

That's terrible advice - if you're not eligible you could end up with an overpayment to deal with later.

0 coins

What about if you turn down a job offer? Is that automatically disqualifying?

0 coins

Only if it's 'suitable work' and you don't have good cause to refuse. Suitable work considers your skills, experience, pay rate, and distance from home.

0 coins

So I could refuse a minimum wage job if I was making $25/hour before?

0 coins

Initially yes, but as time goes on, the definition of suitable work expands. After several weeks, lower-paying jobs might be considered suitable.

0 coins

School attendance can affect benefits too. If you're going to school full-time, you might not be considered available for work unless you can prove you can still work around your class schedule.

0 coins

What about online classes? Those are more flexible usually.

0 coins

It depends on the specific program and schedule. The key is proving you're still available for work during normal business hours and can start a job immediately if offered one.

0 coins

Quick question - does getting unemployment from another state disqualify you from Washington benefits?

0 coins

You can only collect from one state at a time. If you worked in multiple states, you might need to file an interstate claim through the state where you live.

0 coins

Yeah, I had to deal with this when I moved to Washington. It's complicated but not impossible.

0 coins

Don't lie on your application! I know someone who got caught lying about why they were fired and they had to pay back all their benefits plus penalties.

0 coins

Washington ESD definitely follows up with employers. They'll find out the truth eventually.

0 coins

If you're an independent contractor or gig worker, that can complicate things too. You might not qualify for regular UI benefits.

0 coins

I do some Uber driving on the side, will that affect my claim?

0 coins

You need to report all income, including gig work. It might reduce your weekly benefit amount but shouldn't disqualify you entirely.

0 coins

Don't forget about the 'able and available' requirement. You have to be physically and mentally able to work, and available to accept suitable employment. If you have medical issues or transportation problems, that could affect your eligibility.

0 coins

What if you're dealing with depression or anxiety? Does that count as not being able to work?

0 coins

It's complicated. If it prevents you from working, you might need to look into disability benefits instead of unemployment. But if you're able to work with treatment or accommodations, you should still be eligible for UI.

0 coins

Don't forget about the identity verification issues that can temporarily disqualify you. If Washington ESD can't verify who you are, your benefits get stopped until you provide more documents.

0 coins

This happened to me! Took forever to get through to someone to figure out what documents they needed.

0 coins

Same issue here. I eventually used Claimyr to reach an agent who explained exactly what ID documents Washington ESD needed. Saved me weeks of frustration.

0 coins

I was disqualified for being a student but I was only taking one evening class. Apparently if you're in school more than half-time you can't get benefits unless you meet specific exceptions.

0 coins

That seems unfair if you're trying to improve your skills. Are there any exceptions for job training programs?

0 coins

Yes, if it's approved training through WorkSource or if you're in the Training Benefits program you can still get benefits while in school.

0 coins

Criminal convictions related to your job can also disqualify you. Like if you got fired for stealing from work, that would definitely be misconduct.

0 coins

What about things like being late too much? Is that misconduct?

0 coins

It depends on your employer's policies and how many warnings you got. Washington ESD looks at whether you willfully violated policies after being warned.

0 coins

I see, so it's not automatic. They actually review the circumstances.

0 coins

Also important to know - even if you're initially disqualified, you can appeal the decision. Washington ESD has to provide specific reasons for any disqualification, and you have appeal rights.

0 coins

How long do you have to appeal? I might need this information.

0 coins

You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal.

0 coins

Immigration status can affect eligibility too. You have to be authorized to work in the US to receive benefits.

0 coins

That makes sense for any government benefit program.

0 coins

Don't forget about the separation information! If there's any discrepancy between what you say and what your employer says about why you left, Washington ESD will investigate and that can lead to delays or disqualification.

0 coins

So it's important to be completely honest on the initial application?

0 coins

Absolutely. Any inconsistencies will trigger an adjudication process and potentially disqualify you for providing false information.

0 coins

ugh the system is so confusing. i got fired and they're saying its misconduct but all i did was call in sick without a doctors note because i couldnt afford to go to the doctor. how is that misconduct?

0 coins

That might not qualify as misconduct depending on your company's policies and if you followed proper procedures. You should definitely appeal that decision and explain your circumstances.

0 coins

Agree with appealing. Simply calling in sick isn't usually misconduct unless you violated clear attendance policies repeatedly after warnings.

0 coins

Being enrolled in school full-time can also disqualify you unless you meet specific exceptions. Washington ESD considers students not 'available for work' during school hours.

0 coins

What about online classes? I'm thinking about taking some courses while I look for work.

0 coins

Online classes are treated the same way. You'd need to prove you can attend work during normal business hours despite your class schedule.

0 coins

Age can be a factor too. You have to be at least 18 to file for unemployment in Washington, and if you're a minor, there are additional requirements about school attendance.

0 coins

What about people who are retired but still working part-time?

0 coins

Retirement age doesn't disqualify you automatically, but if you're receiving a pension from your last employer, that might affect your benefit amount.

0 coins

What if you quit because of harassment or unsafe working conditions? Is that considered 'good cause'?

0 coins

Yes, those can be good cause reasons to quit. But you have to document everything and usually try to resolve it with your employer first. Sexual harassment, unsafe conditions, significant changes to your job without agreement - these can all be good cause.

0 coins

Good to know. I was worried about quitting my toxic job but sounds like I might still qualify for benefits if I document everything properly.

0 coins

There's also pension and retirement income that can affect eligibility. If you're getting certain types of retirement benefits, it might reduce or eliminate your unemployment benefits.

0 coins

Does Social Security count as retirement income for this purpose?

0 coins

Social Security retirement benefits can reduce your unemployment benefits dollar for dollar in some cases. Disability benefits are handled differently though.

0 coins

my cousin got disqualified for not showing up to a required appointment at WorkSource. didn't even know it was mandatory

0 coins

Wait, you have to go to WorkSource appointments too? I thought it was just job searching.

0 coins

Not everyone has to, but if they require it and you don't go, yes that can disqualify you.

0 coins

the voluntary quit disqualification is the worst one imo. even if you quit for what seems like good reasons, washington esd can still deny you. they're really strict about it

0 coins

I quit because my boss was harassing me but didn't file a complaint first. Washington ESD said I should have tried to resolve it internally before quitting. So frustrating.

0 coins

yeah they expect you to try everything possible before quitting. documentation is key if you're in that situation

0 coins

Medical issues can be tricky. If you can't work due to illness or injury, you might not qualify for UI because you're not 'able and available.' You might need disability benefits instead.

0 coins

What if you can work but have restrictions? Like can't lift heavy things?

0 coins

As long as there are jobs you can do with your restrictions and you're actively looking for them, you should be okay.

0 coins

Don't forget about the fraud penalties - if Washington ESD thinks you intentionally lied about something, they can disqualify you AND make you pay back benefits with penalties. I've seen people owe thousands because they didn't report work income correctly.

0 coins

What if it was just an honest mistake? Like forgetting to report a small amount of work?

0 coins

They're supposed to consider whether it was intentional, but they err on the side of assuming fraud. Always report everything, even small amounts.

0 coins

I've seen people get disqualified for stupid reasons tbh. One guy got disqualified because he put the wrong date on his job search log and they said he was falsifying records. The system is harsh.

0 coins

That seems extreme for a simple mistake!

0 coins

Yeah but they take documentation very seriously. Any inconsistency can be seen as fraud, even if it's an honest mistake.

0 coins

If you're dealing with a disqualification and can't get through to Washington ESD to understand why, I had success using Claimyr to actually reach someone. The regular phone lines are impossible but this service got me connected to an actual agent who could explain my specific situation and help me understand what I needed to do to fix it.

0 coins

Did they help you get your disqualification overturned?

0 coins

They helped me understand what documentation I needed for my appeal. Turned out I just needed to provide more detailed proof of my job search activities. Without talking to an actual person I never would have known what was missing.

0 coins

Just want to circle back on the phone issue - I know several people now who've used Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD when they couldn't get answers about disqualifications or appeals. It's been a game-changer for actually getting real information instead of just guessing what went wrong.

0 coins

Is it legit? Sounds too good to be true with how impossible it is to reach anyone at ESD normally.

0 coins

Yeah it's real. They basically handle the calling and waiting for you, then connect you when they get an agent on the line. Saved me hours of frustration.

0 coins

I was terrified I'd be disqualified because I quit my job due to my manager's harassment, but I documented everything and Washington ESD approved my claim. Don't assume you're disqualified - let them investigate.

0 coins

That's exactly my situation! What kind of documentation did you keep?

0 coins

Emails, witness statements from coworkers, dates and details of incidents. Also tried to address it with HR first to show I attempted to resolve it.

0 coins

The job search thing is no joke. You need 3 QUALIFYING job contacts per week. Not just browsing job sites - actual applications, interviews, networking contacts. Keep detailed records of everything.

0 coins

What counts as a qualifying contact? I've been applying online but wasn't sure if that's enough.

0 coins

Online applications count, but also phone calls to employers, networking contacts, job fairs, interviews. Just make sure you document the date, employer, position, and how you contacted them.

0 coins

Immigration status can also affect eligibility. You need to be authorized to work in the US and some visa types have restrictions on receiving unemployment benefits. If your work authorization expires while you're collecting benefits, you need to report that immediately.

0 coins

Do they verify work authorization when you file?

0 coins

Usually they check it against your Social Security number and previous work history. Problems usually come up if your status changes while you're collecting benefits.

0 coins

Also be careful about the waiting week requirement. If you don't serve your waiting week properly or try to claim it incorrectly, it can cause issues with your claim.

0 coins

What's a waiting week? This is the first I'm hearing about it.

0 coins

It's the first week of your claim where you meet all requirements but don't get paid. You have to complete it before getting benefits. Most people don't realize they still need to file for that week even though they won't get paid for it.

0 coins

Another thing - if you're collecting benefits from another state or country, that will disqualify you from Washington benefits. You can only collect from one state at a time.

0 coins

What if you worked in multiple states? Which one do you file in?

0 coins

Usually the state where you worked most recently, but it depends on where you earned the most wages. ESD can help you figure out which state to file in.

0 coins

Transportation issues are tricky. If you don't have reliable transportation to get to work, Washington ESD might consider you 'not available for work.' But if you can show you're actively looking for work within your transportation limitations (like jobs on bus routes), you might still qualify.

0 coins

What about remote work? Can you limit your job search to remote positions?

0 coins

You can include remote work in your search but you can't limit yourself ONLY to remote work unless you have a documented disability that prevents you from working in an office.

0 coins

Don't forget about school attendance! If you're in school full-time, that can disqualify you because you're not considered available for work.

0 coins

What about part-time classes? I'm taking one evening class.

0 coins

Part-time is usually okay as long as it doesn't interfere with your ability to work. Full-time enrollment is the problem.

0 coins

They can also disqualify you for not participating in required reemployment services if you're selected. I got picked for some workshop thing and almost missed it.

0 coins

How do they notify you about these workshops? Through the mail?

0 coins

I got notified through my online account and by mail. Make sure your address is updated with them.

0 coins

Drug testing failures can also disqualify you, especially if the job loss was related to failing a drug test. Washington has specific rules about this - it's not automatic disqualification but depends on the circumstances.

0 coins

I didn't know that was even a factor for unemployment.

0 coins

Yeah it's one of those things they don't publicize much but it can definitely impact your eligibility if the job separation was drug-related.

0 coins

The system is so confusing! I got disqualified for 'failure to report earnings' but I swear I reported everything correctly on my weekly claims. Now I'm scared to file again.

0 coins

That's definitely worth appealing. Sometimes there are reporting errors or delays in wage reporting that can cause these issues. You have the right to request a hearing.

0 coins

How long do you have to file an appeal?

0 coins

You have 30 days from the date on your disqualification notice to file an appeal. Don't wait - the deadline is strict.

0 coins

Age can sometimes be a factor too. There are different rules for students under 22 and some restrictions there.

0 coins

I didn't know about age restrictions. What's different for younger claimants?

0 coins

Students under 22 have to meet additional requirements and may have limited eligibility during school terms.

0 coins

The key thing is that most disqualifications can be appealed if you disagree with Washington ESD's decision. You have 30 days to file an appeal after getting the determination letter.

0 coins

Good to know there's an appeal process. How long do appeals usually take?

0 coins

Appeals can take several weeks to months depending on complexity. That's another situation where services like Claimyr can help you get through to someone to check on the status.

0 coins

my friend got disqualified because she turned down a job offer that paid way less than her previous job. apparently it was considered 'suitable work' even though it was a huge pay cut

0 coins

The 'suitable work' definition gets stricter the longer you're on unemployment. In the first few weeks, you can be pickier, but eventually you have to accept jobs that pay less than your previous position.

0 coins

that's what she found out during her appeal hearing. wish she'd known before turning it down

0 coins

Labor disputes can also affect eligibility. If you're on strike or locked out due to a labor dispute at your workplace, you might not be eligible for benefits during that time.

0 coins

What if the strike ends and you go back to work? Does that affect your claim?

0 coins

Once the labor dispute ends, you can usually resume collecting benefits if you become unemployed again for other reasons. The disqualification only applies during the active dispute.

0 coins

Age discrimination is real but hard to prove. If you're older and having trouble finding work, Washington ESD still expects you to keep searching.

0 coins

I'm 58 and it's been 8 months. Getting worried about my benefits running out.

0 coins

Have you looked into the extended training programs? Sometimes they offer additional benefits for older workers.

0 coins

The key thing is understanding that most disqualifications aren't permanent. You can often appeal them or they may be temporary (like for a certain number of weeks). Don't give up if you get disqualified - figure out your options.

0 coins

How long do you have to appeal a disqualification decision?

0 coins

You have 30 days from the date of the determination notice to file an appeal. Don't wait - appeals can take months to resolve.

0 coins

Anyone else have success with Claimyr when dealing with disqualification issues? I used them when I got a confusing letter about my eligibility and they helped me get connected with someone who explained exactly what I needed to do to avoid problems.

0 coins

I've heard of them but never tried it. Worth the cost when you're already stressed about money?

0 coins

For me it was worth it because I was able to resolve my issue before it became a bigger problem. Sometimes prevention is cheaper than dealing with a disqualification later.

0 coins

Military discharge can affect eligibility too. Dishonorable discharge might disqualify you, but honorable discharge usually doesn't. There are special rules for veterans that might actually help.

0 coins

Good to know, though that doesn't apply to me.

0 coins

Just want to emphasize again - if you do get disqualified, don't give up. You can appeal most decisions and often win if you have good documentation. But you need to act fast because appeal deadlines are strict. And if you need to talk to someone at ESD about your disqualification, seriously consider using Claimyr to get through. The phone system is brutal otherwise.

0 coins

How long do you have to appeal a disqualification?

0 coins

30 days from the date of the determination letter. Don't wait because there are very limited exceptions for late appeals.

0 coins

I used Claimyr too when I was appealing my disqualification. Worth every penny to actually talk to someone who could explain what evidence I needed.

0 coins

The thing that worries me most is the 'able and available' requirement. I have some health issues that limit the types of work I can do. Does that automatically disqualify me?

0 coins

Not necessarily. You just need to be able to work in some capacity and available for the types of work you can do. If you have limitations, make sure to specify them when you register for work search.

0 coins

That's a relief. I can still work desk jobs, just can't do anything that requires heavy lifting.

0 coins

Just be honest about your limitations from the start. Don't try to hide them because it'll come back to bite you later.

0 coins

does anyone know if having a criminal record disqualifies you? I have an old conviction from like 10 years ago but I've been working steady since then.

0 coins

An old criminal record by itself doesn't disqualify you from unemployment benefits. It's only if you're convicted of a crime while receiving benefits that it becomes an issue.

0 coins

ok good, that's what I was hoping. Thanks for the info.

0 coins

The system is so confusing! I've been trying to understand all these rules and it's overwhelming. Why can't they just make it simpler?

0 coins

I agree it's complicated, but the rules exist to prevent fraud and ensure benefits go to people who truly qualify.

0 coins

I get that but when you're stressed about money the last thing you want is a bureaucratic maze

0 coins

Just wanted to mention - if you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to check on a disqualification or appeal, I found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com that helped me actually reach an agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me hours of calling.

0 coins

Is that legit? I've been trying to call for days about my claim status.

0 coins

Yeah it's real. They basically handle the calling and waiting for you, then connect you when an agent picks up. Worked for me when I couldn't get through the normal way.

0 coins

I got disqualified because I moved to Washington from another state and hadn't worked here long enough. There's some requirement about earning enough wages in the base period.

0 coins

You need to have earned at least $3,400 in your base period and at least $680 in your highest earning quarter. If you don't meet Washington's requirements, you might be able to file against your previous state.

0 coins

I tried filing against my previous state but they said too much time had passed. It's frustrating being caught in between.

0 coins

That's exactly the kind of complex situation where Claimyr really helps. They can get you connected to someone at Washington ESD who can actually review your case and see if there are any options you missed.

0 coins

I've heard that some people get disqualified for being 'overpaid' benefits they already received. How does that happen?

0 coins

Overpayments usually happen when Washington ESD discovers information that changes your eligibility retroactively. Like if they find out you were working while claiming benefits, or if there was an error in your wage calculation.

0 coins

Can they make you pay back benefits you already spent?

0 coins

Yes, but you can usually set up a payment plan or have it deducted from future benefits. The key is to respond to overpayment notices quickly.

0 coins

Don't forget about the able and available requirement. If you're sick, injured, or have other issues that prevent you from working, you can be disqualified. You have to be ready, willing, and able to work immediately.

0 coins

What about if you're taking care of a family member? Does that count as not being available?

0 coins

It depends on the circumstances. If it's temporary and you can still work around it, probably okay. But if it prevents you from accepting full-time work, that could be a problem.

0 coins

What about if you move to another state while collecting Washington unemployment? Does that disqualify you?

0 coins

Moving doesn't automatically disqualify you, but you need to report the move and continue to meet all the requirements. You still need to be able and available for work, and you might need to register with that state's job service.

0 coins

Do you keep filing with Washington ESD even if you move?

0 coins

Yes, you continue filing with Washington since that's where your claim was established. But you need to update your address and follow the job search requirements in your new state.

0 coins

Don't forget about the base period wage requirements! You need to have earned enough wages during your base period to qualify. It's not just about being unemployed - you need sufficient work history.

0 coins

How do they calculate the base period? Is it the last year?

0 coins

It's usually the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file. So if you file in January 2025, they'd look at January through December 2024 wages.

0 coins

Military discharge type can also affect eligibility. Dishonorable discharge can disqualify you from benefits.

0 coins

I wouldn't have thought of that one. Thanks for mentioning it.

0 coins

Here's something people don't know - if you're receiving workers comp or disability payments, that can affect your unemployment eligibility too. Not always a complete disqualification but they might reduce your benefits.

0 coins

I didn't know that! What if you're getting Social Security?

0 coins

Social Security retirement can reduce your UI benefits dollar for dollar in Washington, but SSDI usually doesn't affect it as much.

0 coins

Immigration status can also affect eligibility. You have to be authorized to work in the US. Also, if you're collecting other benefits like worker's comp or disability, that might impact your unemployment benefits.

0 coins

What about Social Security? My mom is thinking about filing for unemployment but she already gets SSI.

0 coins

SSI recipients usually can't collect unemployment because of the 'able and available to work' requirement. She should check with both agencies before filing.

0 coins

I was disqualified for 'not being available' because I told them I could only work day shifts due to childcare. Apparently that's too restrictive according to Washington ESD. Had to go through WorkSource to get training for childcare assistance.

0 coins

That's tough. The availability requirement is really broad - they want you available for any shift, any day.

0 coins

Yeah, it's not very realistic for people with families. I ended up getting help through other programs though.

0 coins

Fraud is obviously a major disqualifier and can result in criminal charges. This includes things like claiming benefits while working full-time, using someone else's identity, or providing false information on your application. Even small cases of unreported income can be treated as fraud if Washington ESD thinks it was intentional.

0 coins

How do they usually catch fraud?

0 coins

Cross-matching with employer payroll records, tips from employers, social media posts showing you're working, or random audits. They have pretty sophisticated systems for detecting inconsistencies.

0 coins

One more - if you're self-employed or an independent contractor, you might not qualify for regular unemployment. You'd need to apply for different programs, and the eligibility rules are different.

0 coins

What about gig work like Uber or DoorDash?

0 coins

Those are usually considered independent contractor work, so different rules apply. You'd probably need to look into PUA or similar programs, though some of those ended after COVID.

0 coins

One thing to emphasize - most disqualifications aren't permanent. They're usually for a specific number of weeks or until you meet certain requirements like returning to work for a period of time. The key is understanding the rules and following them exactly as Washington ESD interprets them, not how you think they should work.

0 coins

This is all really helpful. Is there somewhere official I can find all these rules written out?

0 coins

Check the Washington ESD website under their eligibility requirements section. They have detailed explanations of each disqualification type. Also look at the Washington Administrative Code (WAC) for the specific legal definitions if you need exact details.

0 coins

Here's one that got me - I was doing some freelance work and didn't realize I needed to report it even though I wasn't making much. Any work you do, even gig work, needs to be reported.

0 coins

How much freelance work is okay? Like if I just do one small project?

0 coins

ANY amount needs to be reported. Even $20 from a small gig. They want to know about all work activity.

0 coins

Income limits can also affect eligibility. If you're working part-time while claiming benefits, there are specific rules about how much you can earn.

0 coins

I'm not working right now but good to know for later. What's the limit?

0 coins

It varies based on your weekly benefit amount. Generally you can earn up to your weekly benefit amount before it affects your benefits, but report all earnings.

0 coins

The fraud thing is scary because they can make you pay back benefits with penalties and interest. And it can affect future claims too. Always be 100% honest on your weekly claims even if you think it might hurt your benefits.

0 coins

How do they catch fraud? Like if someone doesn't report cash work or something?

0 coins

They cross-reference with employers, tax records, other state databases. Plus they do random audits. Not worth the risk - the penalties are steep.

0 coins

Make sure you meet the base period earnings requirements too. You need sufficient wages in your base period to qualify for benefits at all.

0 coins

How do I know if I meet that? I've been working for about 18 months.

0 coins

18 months should be plenty. Washington ESD looks at the first four of the last five completed quarters before you file.

0 coins

I'm dealing with a disqualification right now and I'm so frustrated. I've been trying to call Washington ESD for two weeks and either get disconnected or sit on hold for 3+ hours only to have them close before I get through.

0 coins

I mentioned this earlier but I'll say it again - Claimyr really helped me get through to Washington ESD when I was having the same problem. You can check them out at claimyr.com. They handle all the calling for you and actually get you connected to an agent.

0 coins

Is it legit though? I'm worried about scams.

0 coins

Totally legit. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows exactly how it works. I was skeptical at first too but it worked perfectly for my situation.

0 coins

Immigration status can also be a disqualifying factor. You need to be authorized to work in the US and meet specific requirements if you're not a citizen.

0 coins

Do they verify work authorization when you apply?

0 coins

Yes, they cross-reference with federal databases. Any issues with work authorization will flag your claim for manual review.

0 coins

Another thing - if you're getting workers compensation, disability benefits, or certain retirement benefits, you might not be eligible for unemployment. There are specific rules about concurrent benefits.

0 coins

What about Social Security? My mom gets that but was thinking about working part-time.

0 coins

Social Security retirement benefits can affect unemployment eligibility. If you're receiving Social Security and also working part-time, the rules get complicated. Best to check with Washington ESD directly.

0 coins

Criminal background can sometimes disqualify you too, especially if you're incarcerated or if your job loss was related to criminal activity at work.

0 coins

What if you have an old criminal record but it wasn't related to your recent job?

0 coins

Old unrelated records usually don't matter. It's more about current incarceration or if you were fired for stealing from your employer, things like that.

0 coins

For students, you're generally not eligible during school terms unless you were already working while attending school before becoming unemployed. Summer break is different though - students can often get benefits then.

0 coins

I'm in grad school but work full-time. Would I still be eligible if I lost my job?

0 coins

Probably yes since you were working full-time while in school. But you'd still need to be available for full-time work and do the job search requirements.

0 coins

What about if you move out of state? Can that affect your Washington benefits?

0 coins

You can still collect Washington benefits if you move, but you have to continue meeting all the requirements including job search. Moving might limit your job search options though.

0 coins

That's helpful to know. I was worried I'd lose everything if I had to relocate.

0 coins

Been trying to get through to Washington ESD for two weeks to ask about my specific situation but can't get past the busy signal. This is ridiculous - how are we supposed to know if we qualify if we can't talk to anyone?

0 coins

Same problem here. I heard about some service called Claimyr that helps you get through but haven't tried it yet.

0 coins

I used Claimyr last month when I couldn't reach anyone about my adjudication. Worked great - got through to an agent in like 20 minutes. Worth checking out if you're stuck.

0 coins

Criminal background can be an issue too. Not directly disqualifying from UI, but it makes job searching harder which can lead to problems.

0 coins

As long as you're genuinely looking for work and documenting it, that's what matters to Washington ESD.

0 coins

For anyone struggling to reach Washington ESD about disqualification issues, seriously consider Claimyr. I was stuck in appeals limbo for months until I used their service to actually talk to someone who could explain what was happening with my case.

0 coins

Did they help you win your appeal?

0 coins

They helped me understand what documentation I needed and what arguments to make. Made all the difference in my hearing.

0 coins

The wage and hour requirements can trip people up too. You need to have worked enough hours and earned enough wages in your base period to qualify initially, and if you don't meet those thresholds you'll be denied.

0 coins

How do you know what your base period is?

0 coins

It's usually the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. Washington ESD uses your wage records from employers to calculate this automatically.

0 coins

This thread is really helpful! I had no idea there were so many potential pitfalls. Makes me want to be extra careful with my weekly claims and job search documentation.

0 coins

Same here. Better to be overly cautious than deal with disqualification headaches later.

0 coins

The weekly claim filing is crucial too. Miss filing your weekly claim or file it late and you can lose benefits for that week. And if you make mistakes on the weekly claims repeatedly, that can lead to disqualification.

0 coins

When exactly do you have to file the weekly claims?

0 coins

You have to file every week, usually on Sunday for the previous week. There's a deadline - I think it's Saturday night but double-check that.

0 coins

Also watch out for benefit year end. If your benefit year expires, you might need to reapply and meet all the eligibility requirements again. It's not automatic renewal.

0 coins

How long does a benefit year last?

0 coins

52 weeks from when you first filed your claim. After that, you need to file a new claim if you're still unemployed.

0 coins

Honestly, the rules are so complicated and change so often. My advice is to be completely honest on your application, keep detailed records of everything, and don't assume anything. When in doubt, ask ESD directly rather than guessing.

0 coins

Thanks everyone! This is super helpful. I feel much more prepared now.

0 coins

Good luck with your claim! Just remember - most people who follow the rules and are honest don't have major problems. The disqualifications usually happen when people try to game the system or don't understand the requirements.

0 coins

And if you do run into issues, document everything and don't be afraid to appeal if you think the decision was wrong. The appeals process exists for a reason.

0 coins

One last thing - make sure your address is always current with ESD. If they can't reach you for important notices or fact-finding interviews, that can lead to disqualification too.

0 coins

Good point. I'll make sure to update my address if I move.

0 coins

One thing that surprised me - you can be temporarily disqualified for things like not being available due to vacation or jury duty, but once you're available again, your benefits can resume.

0 coins

So it's not always permanent? That makes me feel better about some of these rules.

0 coins

Right, some disqualifications are just for specific weeks, others are for the entire benefit year. Big difference.

0 coins

what about if you're self employed? can you get unemployment or does that disqualify you automatically?

0 coins

Self-employed people generally can't get regular unemployment since they don't pay into the system, but there were pandemic programs that covered them. Those have ended though.

0 coins

If you had W-2 employment recently and then became self-employed, you might still qualify based on your W-2 wages.

0 coins

I think the most important thing is to be completely honest on your application. Even if you think you might be disqualified, let Washington ESD make that determination rather than assuming and not filing at all.

0 coins

Thanks everyone for all the info. I feel much more confident about understanding the rules now.

0 coins

Agreed - better to apply and get denied than to miss out on benefits you were actually entitled to receive.

0 coins

Just want to add that if you do get disqualified, you have appeal rights. Don't just accept it if you think they made a mistake.

0 coins

How long do you have to appeal a disqualification decision?

0 coins

30 days from the date on the determination letter. Don't wait - appeal deadlines are strict in Washington.

0 coins

And if you need help with the appeal, sometimes Claimyr can connect you with agents who can explain the process better than the website does.

0 coins

Criminal convictions can sometimes affect eligibility too, especially if they're related to your job or if you're in prison. Though this varies a lot depending on the specific situation.

0 coins

Does that include old convictions or just recent ones?

0 coins

It's more about current incarceration or convictions that directly relate to your job loss. Having an old conviction doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits.

0 coins

Drug testing failures can also be disqualifying in some cases, especially if your employer fired you for failing a drug test. Washington has specific rules about this that can be pretty strict.

0 coins

What if you have a medical marijuana card? Does that make a difference?

0 coins

Medical marijuana protections vary by employer and industry. It's complicated and you'd probably need to talk to ESD directly about your specific situation.

0 coins

The key thing is to always be honest on your claims and keep detailed records of everything. Most disqualifications happen because of reporting errors or misunderstandings, not because people are actually ineligible.

0 coins

Thanks everyone, this is really helpful. I feel like I understand the risks better now.

0 coins

If you ever need to clarify something specific to your situation, don't hesitate to contact ESD directly. Services like Claimyr at claimyr.com can help you get through when the phone lines are busy.

0 coins

One more thing - voluntary quit situations have a lot of nuance. 'Good cause' includes things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, or significant changes to your job duties. It's not just limited to being laid off.

0 coins

How do you prove good cause if you quit?

0 coins

Documentation is key - emails, witness statements, medical records if applicable, or any communication with HR about the issues. ESD will review your case and may interview you and your former employer.

0 coins

Overpayments can also lead to disqualification if you don't repay them. If ESD determines you received benefits you weren't entitled to, you'll need to pay them back or risk losing future benefits.

0 coins

What happens if you can't afford to pay back an overpayment right away?

0 coins

You can usually set up a payment plan with ESD, but you need to contact them to arrange it. Ignoring overpayment notices will definitely cause problems with future claims.

0 coins

Bottom line is there are a lot of ways to get disqualified, but most are avoidable if you understand the rules and communicate honestly with ESD. When in doubt, ask questions rather than guessing.

0 coins

Agreed, this thread has been super educational. I'll definitely be more careful about following all the requirements.

0 coins

Same here. Better to know all this upfront than learn the hard way later!

0 coins

Don't forget about the waiting period! Even if you qualify, there's usually a one-week waiting period before benefits start.

0 coins

Is that on top of the processing time?

0 coins

Yes, it's separate. So you file, wait for approval, then serve the waiting week, then start getting paid.

0 coins

Military discharge can affect eligibility too. Dishonorable discharge might disqualify you from federal benefits.

0 coins

But that's pretty rare. Most veterans qualify just fine.

0 coins

If you're in a union, make sure you understand any strike or work stoppage rules. That can affect your eligibility.

0 coins

Union members usually have different rules and sometimes better benefits.

0 coins

The good news is most disqualifications can be appealed if you have a good reason. Don't give up if you get denied initially.

0 coins

This has been really helpful everyone. I feel much more prepared to file now.

0 coins

Good luck! Just be honest and thorough in your application.

0 coins

One more thing - if you move to a different state, that can complicate your claim. Make sure to notify Washington ESD immediately.

0 coins

Yeah, interstate claims are a whole different process.

0 coins

Update: I tried Claimyr like someone suggested and finally got through to Washington ESD. Turns out my disqualification was based on incomplete information from my employer. Now I know what to include in my appeal.

0 coins

That's great! Shows how important it is to actually talk to someone who can look at your specific case.

0 coins

Exactly. The online system doesn't give you nearly enough detail about why decisions are made.

0 coins

Bottom line: be honest, follow the rules, document everything, and don't be afraid to appeal if you think there's been a mistake. The system isn't perfect but it's there to help people who legitimately need it.

0 coins

Thanks everyone for all the advice. This thread has been incredibly helpful.

0 coins

Medical issues can sometimes disqualify you too if they prevent you from working. You need to be able and available for work to collect benefits.

0 coins

But what if you're partially disabled? Like you can work but only certain types of jobs?

0 coins

That gets complicated. You might still qualify but you'd need to document your limitations and show you're seeking appropriate work.

0 coins

The worst part about disqualifications is how hard it is to get answers from Washington ESD. I spent weeks trying to understand why I was disqualified until someone told me about Claimyr. They got me connected to an actual agent who explained everything.

0 coins

Is Claimyr expensive? I've been struggling to reach anyone at Washington ESD for months.

0 coins

It's worth it compared to the stress of trying to call repeatedly. They handle the calling process for you so you don't have to sit on hold forever.

0 coins

Don't forget about vacation pay or severance. If you receive certain types of separation pay, that can affect your eligibility or delay when you can start collecting.

0 coins

I got a small severance package. Does that automatically disqualify me?

0 coins

Not necessarily disqualify, but it might delay when your benefits start depending on the amount and type of severance.

0 coins

Criminal background can also be an issue in some cases, especially if it relates to your job separation or affects your ability to find work in your field.

0 coins

That seems unfair. If you've paid your debt to society, why should it affect unemployment?

0 coins

It's usually only if the criminal activity was connected to your job loss or if it makes you unavailable for work.

0 coins

The key thing is to be completely honest on your application and weekly claims. Trying to hide something is way worse than the original issue would have been.

0 coins

This is all so overwhelming. There are so many ways to mess up without realizing it.

0 coins

Just be thorough and honest. When in doubt, report it or ask questions. Better safe than sorry with Washington ESD.

0 coins

Exactly what I learned when I had questions about my claim. Used Claimyr to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD instead of guessing. Sometimes you just need to speak with an actual person who knows the rules.

0 coins

What about if you get fired for poor performance vs misconduct? Is there a difference for unemployment purposes?

0 coins

Big difference! Poor performance or inability to do the job usually doesn't disqualify you. Misconduct has to be willful violation of company rules or standards.

0 coins

Exactly. Washington ESD looks at whether you deliberately acted against your employer's interests, not whether you were good at the job.

0 coins

I see people talking about job search requirements - how many jobs do you have to apply to each week in Washington?

0 coins

You need to make at least 3 job search activities per week and keep a log. This can include applications, interviews, job fairs, networking events, etc.

0 coins

and you have to register with WorkSource Washington within 4 weeks of filing your claim

0 coins

Can you get disqualified retroactively? Like if they find out something later?

0 coins

Yes, if they discover you provided false information or didn't meet requirements, they can create an overpayment and you'd have to pay benefits back.

0 coins

that happened to my cousin. they found out he was working under the table while collecting benefits. had to pay back like $8000

0 coins

What about quitting for medical reasons? Does that count as good cause?

0 coins

It can, but you need documentation from a medical provider stating that your condition made it necessary to quit work. Just being sick isn't enough - it has to be severe enough that continuing work was impossible.

0 coins

You also have to show you tried to get accommodations from your employer first, if possible.

0 coins

THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO DENY BENEFITS!! They look for any excuse to disqualify you. I got denied because I 'quit' but really I was being harassed and had no choice but to leave!

0 coins

Harassment can definitely qualify as good cause to quit. Did you document the harassment and report it to HR or management before quitting?

0 coins

I tried but HR did nothing. I have some emails about it though.

0 coins

Appeal with that documentation! Harassment that creates an intolerable work environment is good cause in Washington.

0 coins

Quick question - if you're on unemployment and get a temporary job, do you lose benefits completely?

0 coins

No, you can work part-time while on unemployment. You just have to report all wages and they'll reduce your weekly benefit amount accordingly. There's a formula they use.

0 coins

you can earn up to about 1/3 of your weekly benefit amount without any reduction. after that they start reducing your benefits dollar for dollar

0 coins

Does anyone know if having a criminal record disqualifies you from unemployment?

0 coins

Having a criminal record alone doesn't disqualify you. However, if you were fired because of criminal activity at work, that would likely be considered misconduct.

0 coins

Right, it's about why your employment ended, not your background. If you were laid off or the job ended for economic reasons, your record shouldn't matter.

0 coins

I've been dealing with Washington ESD for months trying to figure out why I was disqualified. Finally used that Claimyr service someone mentioned and actually got to talk to a real person who explained my situation. Turns out there was missing wage information causing the issue.

0 coins

Was it expensive to use? I'm already broke from not getting benefits.

0 coins

It was worth it for me since I was getting nowhere on my own. Much cheaper than losing weeks of benefits over a paperwork issue.

0 coins

what if you quit because your hours got cut way down? is that considered voluntary quit?

0 coins

A substantial reduction in hours can qualify as good cause to quit. Generally if your hours are reduced by 25% or more, that may be considered good cause.

0 coins

You might also qualify for partial unemployment if you're still employed but with significantly reduced hours.

0 coins

I got disqualified for 'refusing suitable work' but the job they wanted me to take paid $5 less per hour than my previous job. How is that suitable?

0 coins

Suitable work standards change over time. Generally in the first few weeks, work needs to pay at least 80% of your previous wage. After 13 weeks, the threshold drops to about 70%.

0 coins

Appeal that decision! Make sure you understand what week you're in and what the suitable work standards are for your situation.

0 coins

Can you get disqualified for not speaking English well enough?

0 coins

No, language skills alone shouldn't disqualify you. However, it might affect what jobs are considered 'suitable' for you based on your abilities and local job market.

0 coins

Washington ESD also has translation services available if you need help with your claim.

0 coins

anyone else think its ridiculous that you can get disqualified for mental health issues? like if you cant work because of depression thats not your fault

0 coins

Mental health conditions can qualify you for benefits if properly documented. You need medical evidence that shows the condition prevents you from working, not just makes it difficult.

0 coins

There's also disability benefits through Social Security if unemployment isn't the right fit for your situation.

0 coins

Bottom line - most disqualifications can be appealed if you have documentation and a valid reason. Don't just accept the first decision if you think it's wrong. The burden is on Washington ESD to prove misconduct or that you don't qualify.

0 coins

Thanks everyone, this has been really helpful. I think I qualify but will make sure I have all my documentation ready.

0 coins

Good luck! Remember you have 30 days to file an appeal if you get denied, so don't wait.

0 coins

One more tip - if you're struggling to reach Washington ESD about a disqualification, that Claimyr thing at claimyr.com really does work. I was skeptical but it got me through when I couldn't reach anyone for weeks about my appeal status.

0 coins

thanks for mentioning that, I've been trying to call for days about my job search requirements

0 coins

Yeah, the regular phone lines are impossible. This actually connects you with real agents who can look up your specific case.

0 coins

The earnings requirement trips up a lot of people. You need to have earned a certain amount in your base period (usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters). If you just started working recently or had gaps in employment, you might not qualify.

0 coins

How can I check if I have enough earnings? I had a few months where I was between jobs last year.

0 coins

You can request a wage and benefit inquiry from Washington ESD before filing your claim. It'll show your reported wages for each quarter and whether you meet the minimum requirements.

0 coins

Military discharge can affect eligibility too. If you were dishonorably discharged, that's usually a disqualification. But other types of discharge are generally fine.

0 coins

What about if you're still in the reserves? Does that affect anything?

0 coins

Being in reserves shouldn't disqualify you as long as your military duties don't prevent you from being available for civilian work full-time.

0 coins

I see a lot of confusion about self-employment. If you're running your own business or doing significant freelance work, that can complicate things. You might not be considered 'unemployed' in the traditional sense.

0 coins

My freelance work is pretty minimal - maybe $200-300 a month. Would that be an issue?

0 coins

That level shouldn't disqualify you, but you'll need to report it on your weekly claims. They'll reduce your benefits by a portion of what you earn, but you'll still get something.

0 coins

Criminal background can be a factor too, especially if it's related to your job or if you're in prison. Also, if you're not a US citizen, there are additional requirements and restrictions.

0 coins

How recent does the criminal history have to be to affect unemployment? I had some issues years ago but nothing recent.

0 coins

It's usually only relevant if it directly relates to why you lost your job or affects your ability to work. Old convictions that don't impact your work situation typically aren't a problem.

0 coins

Update on my situation - I finally got through to someone using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Turns out my disqualification was based on incorrect information from my employer. Now I know what I need to provide for my appeal. Would have saved months of confusion if I could have talked to someone sooner.

0 coins

That's great news! How long did it take them to get you connected?

0 coins

They called me back within a few hours and had me talking to an ESD agent the same day. Much better than the weeks I spent trying to get through on my own.

0 coins

Bottom line: don't assume you're disqualified without trying. The worst they can do is say no, and even then you can appeal. But make sure you're honest about everything on your application - lying or withholding information is a sure way to get disqualified.

0 coins

Thanks everyone for all the help. I feel much more confident about applying now. Really appreciate all the detailed responses!

0 coins

Good luck with your application! Remember to document everything and keep copies of all your correspondence with ESD.

0 coins

Union issues can also come up. If you're involved in a labor dispute or strike, you might not be eligible for benefits during that time.

0 coins

What if the strike ends and you still don't have a job to go back to?

0 coins

Once the labor dispute is resolved, you can usually apply for benefits if you're still unemployed through no fault of your own.

0 coins

Seasonal workers have special rules too. If you work in seasonal industries, Washington ESD looks at whether you have reasonable assurance of returning to work next season.

0 coins

I worked at a ski resort last winter. Would that affect my claim if I apply now?

0 coins

Depends on whether they offered you a contract for this coming season. If you have reasonable assurance of returning, you might be disqualified during the off-season.

0 coins

The biggest thing is just being honest on your application. I've seen people get disqualified for fraud when they tried to hide things that might not have even disqualified them in the first place.

0 coins

That's good advice. Better to be upfront and let them make the determination than try to hide something.

0 coins

Exactly. And if you do get disqualified, you can usually appeal. The appeals process exists for a reason.

0 coins

Military service can affect eligibility too, both positively and negatively depending on your discharge status and when you served.

0 coins

I didn't know military service could affect unemployment benefits. How so?

0 coins

Honorable discharge usually helps - there are special programs for veterans. But certain types of discharge can complicate things, and recent military wages are handled differently.

0 coins

Training programs can be tricky too. If you're in an approved training program you might be exempt from job search requirements, but if it's not approved it could disqualify you.

0 coins

How do you know if a training program is approved by Washington ESD?

0 coins

You have to get pre-approval before starting. Contact WorkSourceWA or Washington ESD directly to verify before enrolling in anything.

0 coins

Family circumstances matter too. If you quit to care for a family member, that might qualify as good cause, but you still need to be available for work to continue getting benefits.

0 coins

What if you need to care for someone but can still work certain hours?

0 coins

As long as you're available for suitable work and actively looking, caregiving responsibilities don't automatically disqualify you. Just document everything.

0 coins

I had to deal with a disqualification appeal last year and ended up using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Really helped me get through to an actual person at Washington ESD who could explain exactly why I was disqualified and what I needed to do to fix it.

0 coins

Did they help you with the appeal process itself or just getting connected?

0 coins

Just getting connected, but that was the hardest part. Once I could actually talk to someone, they walked me through what documentation I needed for my appeal.

0 coins

The key is understanding that Washington ESD has to verify you meet all the requirements: lost your job through no fault of your own, earned enough wages, able and available for work, and actively seeking work. Fail any one of these and you're disqualified.

0 coins

This has been really helpful. Sounds like the main thing is being honest and making sure you understand all the requirements before filing.

0 coins

Exactly. And if you're unsure about anything, better to ask questions upfront rather than risk a disqualification that you have to appeal later.

0 coins

If anyone needs to talk to Washington ESD about their specific disqualification situation, definitely check out Claimyr. Getting through to an agent is nearly impossible otherwise, and they can explain exactly how the rules apply to your case.

0 coins

Is it expensive? I'm already broke from being unemployed.

0 coins

It's worth it if you're facing a disqualification. Much cheaper than losing weeks of benefits while trying to reach them on your own.

0 coins

labor disputes can also disqualify you. if youre unemployed because of a strike or lockout at your workplace, you might not be eligible for benefits until the dispute is resolved

0 coins

That's right, though there are some exceptions if you're not directly involved in the dispute or if it's related to workplace safety.

0 coins

The seasonal worker rules are confusing too. If you work seasonal jobs, Washington ESD might assume you'll return to the same employer and deny benefits during the off-season.

0 coins

What if you don't want to return to the same seasonal job? Can you still get benefits?

0 coins

You have to prove you're not planning to return and are actively seeking other work. It's complicated and often requires documentation.

0 coins

just got my disqualification notice yesterday for 'misconduct' even though I was laid off due to budget cuts. apparently someone at my old job told washington esd i had performance issues. now i have to prove i DIDN'T do something wrong

0 coins

That's backwards - they should have to prove misconduct occurred. Make sure you appeal with any documentation about the layoffs being due to budget issues.

0 coins

already gathering everything. this is so stressful when you're already dealing with being unemployed

0 coins

The income reporting requirements are strict too. You have to report ALL income, including odd jobs, gig work, self-employment. Even if it's under the weekly benefit amount, you still have to report it.

0 coins

What about things like selling stuff online? Do you have to report that?

0 coins

If it's regular income, yes. Occasional garage sale stuff probably not, but regular eBay selling or similar would need to be reported.

0 coins

one more thing - if you're getting retirement benefits or disability payments, that can affect your unemployment eligibility too. washington esd has specific rules about how other benefits interact with UI

0 coins

Thanks for all this info everyone. This is way more complicated than I thought it would be.

0 coins

It is complicated, but the key is being honest and following all the rules. When in doubt, contact Washington ESD for clarification rather than guessing.

0 coins

Seriously, if you're dealing with any of these disqualification issues and can't get through to Washington ESD, try Claimyr. I used them when I had questions about my misconduct determination and finally got the answers I needed. The wait times to reach ESD on your own are just impossible right now.

0 coins

I might try that. Been trying to call for weeks about my job refusal disqualification with no luck.

0 coins

Yeah, that's exactly the kind of situation where it's helpful. You need to talk to someone who can look at your specific case details.

0 coins

Being in jail or prison obviously disqualifies you from benefits. But what some people don't know is that even short stays can affect your claim. If you're arrested and can't look for work or accept job offers, you need to report that on your weekly claim.

0 coins

What if charges are dropped or you're found not guilty?

0 coins

You might be able to get benefits restored for that period, but you have to go through an appeal process and provide documentation from the court.

0 coins

Not registering with WorkSource is another requirement that can trip you up. Within a certain timeframe of filing your claim, you're required to register for work search services through WorkSource Washington. If you don't complete this step, your benefits can be suspended.

0 coins

Is this something you do online or do you have to go somewhere in person?

0 coins

You can do it online through the WorkSource website. It's pretty straightforward but you have to make sure you complete all the required sections of your profile.

0 coins

Age discrimination is real but it won't disqualify you from benefits. However, older workers sometimes struggle to meet job search requirements because they face more rejection. The key is documenting your search efforts thoroughly and showing you're applying to appropriate positions, not just going through the motions.

0 coins

Can you appeal if Washington ESD says you're not really looking for work?

0 coins

Yes, and this is where having detailed job search logs becomes crucial. You need to show you're making genuine efforts to find work, not just meeting the minimum requirements.

0 coins

The bottom line is Washington ESD has gotten much stricter about eligibility requirements over the past few years. They're looking for any reason to deny claims to save money. The best thing you can do is follow all the rules exactly, keep detailed records of everything, and don't assume anything. When in doubt, ask questions before you make a mistake that could disqualify you.

0 coins

This has been really helpful. I feel like I have a much better understanding of what to watch out for now.

0 coins

Just remember that most disqualifications can be appealed if you have documentation to support your case. Don't give up if you get denied - sometimes it's just a matter of providing more information or clarifying a misunderstanding.

0 coins

One more thing - if you do get disqualified, there's usually a waiting period before you can reapply or before the disqualification is lifted. Use that time to address whatever caused the disqualification so you don't run into the same problem again. And definitely keep trying to reach Washington ESD for clarification - I know Claimyr has helped a lot of people get through when the regular lines are jammed.

0 coins

Thanks everyone for all this information. I'm going to save this thread in case I ever need to reference it.

0 coins

Good idea. The rules are complicated and Washington ESD doesn't always do a great job explaining them clearly. Having this kind of breakdown really helps.

0 coins

The work search thing trips up a lot of people. It's not just applying - you have to keep detailed records of every contact, what type of work search activity it was, dates, company names, etc. And the activities have to be legitimate.

0 coins

What counts as a legitimate work search activity? Just applications or other things too?

0 coins

Applications, interviews, attending job fairs, networking events, skills assessments, creating/updating professional profiles online. But just browsing job sites without applying doesn't count.

0 coins

When I was confused about work search requirements, I used that Claimyr service to get through to Washington ESD. The agent walked me through exactly what I needed to track. Much clearer than the website.

0 coins

Remember that some disqualifications are temporary and some are permanent. Like if you refuse suitable work, you might just lose benefits for that week. But fraud can permanently affect your eligibility.

0 coins

This is all really helpful. I feel like I understand the rules much better now. Thanks everyone!

0 coins

Just remember to always be honest and document everything. When in doubt, ask Washington ESD for clarification rather than guessing.

0 coins

One more thing - moving out of state can affect your benefits. You can still collect unemployment if you move, but you have to notify Washington ESD and continue to meet all the requirements including work search in your new location.

0 coins

Good point. And if you move to a state with different work search requirements, you still have to follow Washington's rules since that's where your claim is.

0 coins

The bottom line is don't try to game the system. Follow the rules, report everything honestly, do your work searches, and keep good records. Most disqualifications happen because people don't understand the rules or try to cut corners.

0 coins

Agreed. The system is designed to help people who are genuinely unemployed through no fault of their own and actively looking for work. Stick to that and you should be fine.

0 coins

Thanks to everyone who contributed. This thread has been incredibly informative. I feel much more confident about navigating the unemployment system now.

0 coins

Just want to follow up on my earlier comment about getting help with appeals - that Claimyr service I mentioned really did help me get through to Washington ESD when I couldn't reach them any other way. They basically call for you and get you connected to an actual person instead of dealing with the automated system. Saved me probably 20+ hours of trying to call myself.

0 coins

How much does something like that cost? Seems like it could be expensive.

0 coins

Honestly don't remember the exact cost but it was worth it to actually talk to someone who could help with my appeal. Way cheaper than losing weeks of benefits because I couldn't get through on my own.

0 coins

Another thing - if you have any kind of workers compensation claim going on, that can complicate your unemployment eligibility. Washington ESD will want to know about any other benefits you're receiving or might receive.

0 coins

My cousin doesn't have workers comp but she did get a small severance. Will that affect her claim?

0 coins

Depends on how the severance is structured. Lump sum payments usually don't affect weekly benefits but if it's paid out over time it might. She needs to report it to Washington ESD and let them determine how it impacts her claim.

0 coins

oh and don't forget about the base period earnings requirement... if you didn't work enough or earn enough in your base period you won't qualify at all, not just get disqualified later

0 coins

What's the minimum you need to have earned?

0 coins

You need earnings in at least two quarters of your base period and total base period earnings of at least 1.25 times your highest quarter earnings. There's also a minimum total earnings threshold that changes each year.

0 coins

All this stuff is so complicated! I wish Washington ESD made it clearer what you can and can't do. Seems like you can get disqualified for things you don't even realize are problems.

0 coins

That's why it's important to read everything they send you and ask questions if you're not sure. Better to check with them first than find out you made a mistake later.

0 coins

Agree 100%. The rules are there for a reason but they're not always intuitive. When in doubt, contact Washington ESD directly or talk to someone at WorkSource WA.

0 coins

I've seen people get disqualified for not responding to requests for information quickly enough. Washington ESD gives you deadlines to provide documents or attend hearings, and if you miss those deadlines, you can lose your benefits even if you would have qualified otherwise.

0 coins

How long do they usually give you to respond to requests?

0 coins

Usually 10-15 days but it depends on what they're asking for. The key is to respond even if you can't provide everything they want - at least let them know you received the request and are working on it.

0 coins

One more thing about the job search requirements - they're really cracking down on this. I know people who got audited and had to pay back benefits because they couldn't prove they did adequate job search. Keep detailed records of everything!

0 coins

What kind of records do they want to see exactly?

0 coins

Date, employer name, position applied for, method of contact, and any follow-up activities. They also want to see variety in your search methods - not just online applications but networking, job fairs, direct employer contact, etc.

0 coins

Just to add to what others have said about getting help - I also used a service to help me reach Washington ESD when I was dealing with a disqualification issue. The phone system is just impossible sometimes. Found out about Claimyr from someone on another forum and it actually worked. They got me through to someone who could review my case properly.

0 coins

Seems like a lot of people have trouble getting through to Washington ESD by phone.

0 coins

It's definitely a common problem. The automated system hangs up on you constantly and the hold times are crazy. Having a service that can actually get you to a real person makes a huge difference when you're dealing with something important like a disqualification.

0 coins

Bottom line for your cousin - be completely honest on her application and weekly claims, keep detailed job search records, don't turn down suitable work without good cause, and respond promptly to any requests from Washington ESD. Most disqualifications happen because people don't understand or follow the rules, not because the system is trying to deny legitimate claims.

0 coins

This has been incredibly helpful everyone. I'm going to make sure my cousin knows about all these potential issues before she files her claim.

0 coins

Smart approach. Better to know the rules upfront than learn them the hard way through a disqualification. Good luck to your cousin!

0 coins

ugh this whole system is ridiculous. I was denied because I quit to take care of my sick mom and they said it wasn't good cause. How is that not good cause???

0 coins

Family illness can sometimes qualify as good cause depending on the circumstances. Did you appeal the decision?

0 coins

yeah I'm in the appeal process now but it's taking forever

0 coins

I was worried about disqualification too but got approved even though I quit my job due to harassment. Document everything if you think there might be issues.

0 coins

I wish I had documented the car problems better. I just have some repair receipts.

0 coins

Repair receipts could actually help show you had legitimate transportation issues!

0 coins

Not looking for work actively enough will get you disqualified too. You have to do at least 3 job search activities per week and keep records.

0 coins

What counts as a job search activity? Just applying for jobs?

0 coins

Applications, networking events, job fairs, interviews, career counseling sessions - there's a list on the Washington ESD website.

0 coins

The adjudication process for disqualification issues can take weeks. If you need to talk to someone about your specific situation, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier really does help get through to agents faster.

0 coins

I might need that if they have questions about my case. Thanks for mentioning it again.

0 coins

No problem! It saved me a lot of stress when I was dealing with a misconduct determination.

0 coins

Immigration status can also affect eligibility. You need work authorization to qualify for benefits.

0 coins

I'm a US citizen so that shouldn't be an issue for me.

0 coins

Then you're good on that front. Just wanted to mention it since it's another potential disqualification.

0 coins

Age restrictions exist too - you have to be at least 18 to file for regular unemployment benefits in Washington.

0 coins

What about high school students who work part-time? Can they get benefits?

0 coins

Generally no, students aren't eligible while school is in session, even if they're 18.

0 coins

Being incarcerated obviously disqualifies you, but so does being in certain treatment programs or institutions depending on the circumstances.

0 coins

None of those apply to me thankfully. This thread has been really helpful!

0 coins

Glad it helped! The key is being honest on your application and keeping good records.

0 coins

Military discharge status can affect eligibility too. Dishonorable discharge might cause issues but other types of discharge are usually fine.

0 coins

I haven't served in the military so that's not relevant to me.

0 coins

Just covering all the bases! Sounds like you should be okay to apply.

0 coins

One more thing - if you do get disqualified and need to speak with Washington ESD about it, I can't stress enough how helpful that claimyr.com service was for me. The phone system is impossible otherwise.

0 coins

Is it expensive to use?

0 coins

It's worth it when you consider how much time you save not sitting on hold for hours. Check out their demo video to see how it works.

0 coins

The most important thing is to file your application accurately and completely. Don't leave out information thinking it will help you - they'll find out anyway and it could be considered fraud.

0 coins

Thanks everyone! I feel much more confident about filing now. I'll be completely honest about both jobs.

0 coins

Good luck! Remember you can always appeal if there are any issues with the initial determination.

0 coins

Hope everything works out for you! The unemployment system is stressful but most people who file legitimately do get approved eventually.

0 coins

That's reassuring to hear. I really appreciate all the helpful responses in this thread.

0 coins

We've all been there. The community here is pretty good about helping each other navigate the system.

0 coins

Pregnancy itself doesn't disqualify you, but if you're unable to work due to pregnancy complications, that could affect your 'able and available' status.

0 coins

So as long as you can still work, pregnancy won't affect benefits?

0 coins

Right, pregnancy alone isn't disqualifying. It's about whether you can perform work and are available for work.

0 coins

Union issues can sometimes cause problems too. If you're on strike or laid off due to a labor dispute, there might be restrictions on benefits.

0 coins

I didn't realize labor disputes could affect individual benefits.

0 coins

The bottom line is that Washington ESD has pretty detailed guidelines for all these situations. When in doubt, it's better to ask than assume. I've seen too many people get disqualified for things they didn't know about.

0 coins

Exactly! And if you do get disqualified, don't just accept it. Look into whether you can appeal or if there were any errors in the determination.

0 coins

This thread has been super helpful. I feel much more informed about what to watch out for.

0 coins

One more thing - overpayment situations can also lead to future disqualification if you don't pay back money you weren't supposed to receive. Always be careful about reporting accurately.

0 coins

Good point. Better to be overly cautious with reporting than risk an overpayment.

0 coins

And if you do get an overpayment notice, you can appeal that too. Sometimes Washington ESD makes mistakes in their calculations. Claimyr can help you get through to discuss those situations as well.

0 coins

Thanks everyone for all the detailed info! This gives me a much better understanding of what to watch out for to keep my benefits intact.

0 coins

You're welcome! The key is staying informed and following all the rules. When in doubt, contact Washington ESD for clarification.

0 coins

Yeah this was a great discussion. Bookmarking this thread for future reference!

0 coins

The misconduct thing is really subjective. I've seen people get denied for things that seem minor while others who did worse things got approved. It really depends on how your employer reports it and whether Washington ESD believes their story.

0 coins

That's what I'm afraid of. My boss might exaggerate what happened to try to block my claim.

0 coins

Just make sure you respond to any requests for information from Washington ESD and tell your side of the story. Don't let it go by default.

0 coins

Yeah and if you do get denied, appeal it right away. Don't wait because there's a deadline.

0 coins

I almost got disqualified for not responding to a letter from Washington ESD. Apparently they sent it to an old address and I never got it. Make sure your address is always updated with them.

0 coins

How did you fix that? Did they reopen your case?

0 coins

I had to file an appeal and prove I never got the letter. Luckily I had proof I'd moved and updated my address with the post office.

0 coins

One thing people don't realize is that if you're getting Social Security disability, you probably can't get unemployment because you're saying you can't work on one hand and that you're able and available for work on the other.

0 coins

What about if you're just applying for disability but haven't been approved yet?

0 coins

That's a gray area. As long as you're truly able and available for work, you should be okay. But if you're claiming total disability, that's a problem.

0 coins

The job search requirement is where they get a lot of people. You have to do 3 job search activities every week and document them properly in WorkSourceWA. Missing even one week can disqualify you.

0 coins

And they do audit those job search logs. I know someone who got caught making up job contacts and they had to pay back all their benefits.

0 coins

What counts as a valid job search activity? Just applying for jobs or are there other things?

0 coins

Applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking events, informational interviews, creating or updating your resume, and some other activities. Check the WorkSourceWA website for the full list.

0 coins

they can also disqualify you if you turn down work that's offered to you through WorkSource. Happened to my friend who said no to a job that would have been a 2 hour commute each way.

0 coins

A 2 hour commute might actually be grounds for refusing if it's unreasonable. The key is having good cause for the refusal.

0 coins

maybe, but they still cut off his benefits and he had to appeal. took months to get it sorted out.

0 coins

I'm dealing with a disqualification right now because my employer is claiming I was fired for being drunk at work, which is totally false. I don't even drink! But now I have to prove a negative which is impossible.

0 coins

That's horrible. Do you have any witnesses or documentation that could help your case?

0 coins

I'm trying to get statements from coworkers but they're scared of getting in trouble with the boss. It's really frustrating.

0 coins

This is another situation where Claimyr could really help you get through to someone at Washington ESD who can walk you through exactly what kind of evidence you need for your appeal. Sometimes there are options you don't know about.

0 coins

Don't forget about the work availability issue. If you're only available to work certain hours or days, that can be a problem. You generally need to be available for full-time work during normal business hours.

0 coins

What if you have childcare issues? I can only work when my kids are in school.

0 coins

Childcare can be good cause for limiting your availability, but you need to be actively looking for work within your available hours and document your childcare situation.

0 coins

The wage requirement thing caught me off guard too. Even if you've been working, if you didn't earn enough in the right quarters, you won't qualify. It's based on the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file.

0 coins

Yeah that base period calculation is confusing. I wish they made it clearer on the website.

0 coins

Right? I had to call multiple times to get someone to explain it properly. The automated system just kept telling me I didn't qualify without explaining why.

0 coins

This is exactly why having a way to reach an actual human at Washington ESD is so valuable. The automated systems can't handle complex situations.

0 coins

Don't forget about drug testing requirements. Some disqualifications are related to failing drug tests, especially if you were fired for that reason.

0 coins

Does Washington ESD do their own drug testing or just go by what the employer reports?

0 coins

They don't do their own testing, but if you were fired for failing a drug test, that would likely be considered misconduct and disqualify you from benefits.

0 coins

The 'able and available' requirement trips up a lot of people. If you have childcare issues, transportation problems, or health limitations, you might not qualify even if you lost your job through no fault of your own.

0 coins

What if you're able to work but only certain hours due to childcare?

0 coins

You can still qualify if you're available for a reasonable amount of work. Part-time availability might be okay depending on your circumstances and local job market.

0 coins

I got approved even though I could only work during school hours because of my kids. You just have to document that you're genuinely looking for work within those constraints.

0 coins

The bottom line is that Washington ESD has a lot of rules and they're not always clear about them upfront. If you do get disqualified, don't just accept it - most decisions can be appealed if you have a good reason.

0 coins

This has been really helpful. I feel like I have a much better understanding of what to watch out for. Thank you everyone!

0 coins

Good luck with your claim! The key is to be honest, keep good records, and don't be afraid to ask questions if you're unsure about anything.

0 coins

Exactly. And remember that getting disqualified initially doesn't mean you can't get benefits - many people win their appeals with the right documentation and explanation.

0 coins

Washington Unemployment AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today