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What disqualifies you from unemployment Washington ESD - need clarification

I'm trying to understand all the reasons Washington ESD can disqualify someone from unemployment benefits. I've heard different things from different people and want to make sure I don't accidentally mess up my claim. What are the main things that will get you disqualified? I know quitting without good cause is one, but what else should I be worried about?

The main disqualifications are: quitting without good cause, being fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work without good cause, not being able and available for work, and not meeting the job search requirements. There's also fraud obviously.

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What counts as misconduct exactly? I'm worried about some attendance issues I had at my last job.

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Misconduct has to be willful and substantial. A few tardies usually won't disqualify you unless it was part of a pattern after warnings.

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dont forget about the work search thing!! you have to apply for 3 jobs every week and keep records or they'll cut you off

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Do they actually check the job search log regularly?

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They can audit your job search activities at any time. Keep detailed records of every application, contact, and interview.

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I got disqualified for refusing a job offer that paid way less than my previous salary. Apparently it was considered 'suitable work' even though it was a 40% pay cut. Had to appeal and it took forever to get through to anyone at Washington ESD to explain my situation.

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That's awful! How did you finally get through to them?

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Never heard of that before, sounds interesting though

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Here's the complete list of disqualifying reasons according to Washington ESD: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause 2) Discharge for misconduct 3) Refusal of suitable work 4) Not able and available 5) Failure to register for work or report as directed 6) Inadequate job search 7) Receipt of disqualifying income 8) School attendance without approved training 9) Fraud or misrepresentation

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WHAT ABOUT BEING PREGNANT?? I'm scared they'll disqualify me because I won't be able to work soon

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Pregnancy alone doesn't disqualify you. You just need to be able and available for work. When you can't work due to delivery/recovery, you'd be temporarily unavailable but not disqualified.

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Exactly right. Washington state actually has good protections for pregnant workers in the unemployment system.

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i got fired for calling in sick too much does that count as misconduct?

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Depends on the circumstances. If you had legitimate medical reasons and followed company policy for reporting absences, it might not be misconduct. If it was unexcused absences or you didn't follow procedures, it could be.

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i had doctors notes for most of it but my boss said i was unreliable

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You should definitely apply and appeal if denied. Medical absences with documentation often don't qualify as misconduct.

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The job search requirement is what gets most people. You have to do 3 job search activities per week and keep detailed records. Washington ESD can audit you at any time.

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What counts as a job search activity?

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Applying for jobs, networking contacts, attending job fairs, interviews, employment-related workshops. Has to be documented with dates, contacts, and outcomes.

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my friend got disqualified for working part time and not reporting it properly. they found out somehow and said it was fraud

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You must report ALL work and earnings when filing weekly claims. Even one day of work needs to be reported. Washington ESD cross-references with employer wage reports.

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yeah she learned that the hard way. now she owes back a bunch of money too

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WHAT IF YOU GET FIRED FOR BEING LATE A FEW TIMES?? Is that automatic disqualification?

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Not automatic. Washington ESD looks at whether it was willful misconduct. Occasional tardiness usually isn't enough unless there were repeated warnings and you continued the behavior.

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They'll consider factors like: Were you warned? Did you have control over the situation? Was it a pattern of behavior? Single incidents rarely qualify as misconduct.

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The appeals process is really important to understand. Even if you get initially disqualified, you can often win on appeal if you have documentation and a good reason.

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How long do appeals take?

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Mine took about 6 weeks but I've heard it can vary. The hard part is getting through to Washington ESD if you need to ask questions during the process. That's where services like Claimyr really help.

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can you get disqualified for being fired from a job you just started?

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Yes, if it was for misconduct. But Washington ESD will look at your entire work history, not just the most recent job. You might still qualify based on previous employment.

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The key is whether the discharge was for misconduct connected with the work. Poor performance during a probationary period usually isn't misconduct.

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Don't forget about the able and available requirement. If you can't work due to transportation issues, childcare problems, or other barriers, you could be disqualified.

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what if you don't have a car?? does that disqualify you?

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Not necessarily, but you need to be able to get to work somehow. Public transit, rideshare, etc. You have to be genuinely available for employment.

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the worst part is trying to get answers when you're not sure about something. washington esd phone lines are always busy

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I had the same problem until someone told me about Claimyr. It's a service that helps you get through to Washington ESD reps without waiting on hold forever. Really saved me when I needed to clarify some job search questions.

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is it expensive?

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It's worth it when you need answers fast. Much better than spending hours trying to call yourself.

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Important to note that some disqualifications are temporary (like refusing suitable work) while others can be permanent for that benefit year (like quitting without good cause). The consequences vary.

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What's the difference between temporary and permanent disqualifications?

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Temporary means you can requalify by meeting certain conditions. Permanent means you're ineligible for the entire benefit year and would need to reestablish eligibility.

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do they check your social media to see if your really looking for work?

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I haven't heard of Washington ESD monitoring social media for job searches, but they do audit job search logs and can verify applications with employers.

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Just keep good records and actually do the job searches. Don't try to game the system.

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THIS WHOLE SYSTEM IS SO CONFUSING!! why can't they just make it simple?

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i know right? feels like they make it complicated on purpose

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It is complex but the rules exist to prevent fraud and ensure benefits go to people who genuinely need them and are actively seeking work.

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My advice is to be completely honest on your application and weekly claims. It's better to ask questions upfront than deal with disqualification later.

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That's what I'm trying to do now, thanks for all the info everyone!

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Good luck! And remember if you do get disqualified and need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about it, don't waste time on hold. Services like Claimyr can get you connected much faster.

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The key thing is documentation. Keep records of everything - job applications, interviews, any communication with employers or Washington ESD. You never know when you'll need it.

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Absolutely correct. Good documentation can be the difference between approval and disqualification, especially in borderline cases.

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I'll definitely start keeping better records. This thread has been really helpful!

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One last thing - if you're unsure about whether something might disqualify you, it's usually better to apply anyway. Washington ESD will make the determination and you can always appeal if needed.

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Exactly. Don't self-disqualify. Let Washington ESD make the official determination based on your specific circumstances.

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thanks this makes me feel better about applying

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hope this helps! the unemployment system is scary but once you understand the rules its not as bad

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Definitely helps! I feel much more confident about avoiding disqualification now.

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same here, still nervous but at least i know what to watch out for

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