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How to get denied unemployment - Washington ESD reasons that disqualify claims

I'm trying to understand all the ways Washington ESD can deny or disqualify someone from unemployment benefits. My cousin just got denied and I want to make sure I don't make the same mistakes when I file next month. What are the main reasons Washington ESD will reject your claim? I've heard about misconduct and quitting without good cause but are there other things that can get you automatically disqualified?

There are several main categories Washington ESD uses for disqualifications. Misconduct is the big one - things like stealing, repeated tardiness, insubordination, or violating company policies. Voluntary quit without good cause is another major reason. You also get disqualified if you're fired for a felony or if you refuse suitable work without good reason.

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What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My cousin said they quit because of harassment but still got denied.

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Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment that the employer won't address, significant changes to job duties or pay, or domestic violence situations. Your cousin might need to appeal if they have documentation of the harassment and complained to management first.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! Washington ESD will deny benefits if you don't do your required job searches each week or if you're not able and available to work. Also if you turn down a job offer that's considered suitable work for your skills and experience.

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How many job searches do you have to do each week? I thought it was 3 but someone told me it might be more now.

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It's typically 3 job search activities per week, but it can vary based on your situation. Check your WorkSourceWA account to see your specific requirements.

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Is that service legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my claim status.

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Yeah it worked for me. I was getting hung up on constantly trying to reach them the normal way. This actually got me through to someone who could explain my disqualification.

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LMAO washington esd will deny you for breathing wrong. i got denied because they said i didnt report income correctly even though i reported everything exactly like they told me to. the system is rigged

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Income reporting errors are actually pretty common. Did you appeal the decision? Sometimes it's just a misunderstanding about when to report earnings versus when you actually worked.

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yeah im appealing but its been 2 months already. this whole system sucks

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Other reasons for denial include not being authorized to work in the US, being incarcerated, attending school full-time without approval, or having a labor dispute at your workplace. Also if you're receiving other benefits like workers comp or disability that might conflict.

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What about if you're going to school part-time? Does that automatically disqualify you?

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Part-time school is usually okay as long as you're still available for full-time work and meeting your job search requirements. Full-time school typically requires special approval through the Training Benefits program.

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My biggest worry is the able and available requirement. What if you get sick or have to take care of a family member? Does that automatically make you ineligible?

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Short-term illness usually doesn't disqualify you if you're actively looking for work and would accept a job if offered. Family care situations are more complex - it depends on whether you can still work if a suitable job was offered.

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That makes sense. I guess the key is being honest about your availability but also showing you're genuinely seeking work.

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Does anyone know if having a side business or freelance work affects your eligibility? I do some gig work but it's not consistent income.

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You can usually still collect benefits with side work, but you have to report all earnings and it will reduce your weekly benefit amount. The key is reporting everything honestly on your weekly claims.

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Good to know. I was worried it would disqualify me completely.

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What about if you get fired during your probationary period? I thought I heard that doesn't count as misconduct since they can fire you for any reason during probation.

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Being fired during probation doesn't automatically disqualify you. Washington ESD still looks at the reason for termination. If it was performance-related rather than misconduct, you'd likely still qualify for benefits.

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That's a relief. I was worried I'd be stuck if my new job doesn't work out.

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I got denied initially but then approved after my employer didn't respond to the adjudication process. Sometimes employers just don't follow through with contesting your claim.

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how long did that take? my claim has been in adjudication for like 6 weeks

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Mine took about 4 weeks total. The adjudication process can be really slow, especially if they're waiting for employer response.

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How much does it cost though? I'm already broke waiting for benefits.

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It's worth checking out their site for pricing. For me, getting through to resolve my issue quickly was worth it versus being stuck for months.

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Don't forget about the base period earnings requirement. You need to have earned enough wages in your base period or you won't qualify at all. I think it's like $3,000 minimum but check the current amounts.

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What's the base period exactly? Is it the last year you worked?

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It's usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. So if you file in January 2025, your base period would be January 2024 through September 2024.

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my friend got denied for not being a US citizen even though they have a work permit. is that legal??

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That doesn't sound right. People with valid work authorization should be eligible for unemployment benefits. Your friend should definitely appeal that decision and provide documentation of their work authorization.

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ill tell them to appeal. seems like washington esd makes a lot of mistakes

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The seasonal worker rules can also trip people up. If you typically work seasonal jobs, Washington ESD might deny benefits during your usual off-season even if you're looking for other work.

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Really? I work construction and there's always a slow period in winter. Are you saying I might not qualify during those months?

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It depends on your specific work pattern. If you have a clear seasonal pattern and reasonable assurance of returning to work, they might deny benefits. But if you're genuinely seeking other work, you should still qualify.

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What about if you're fired for attendance but it was due to a medical condition? Does that count as misconduct or can you still get benefits?

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Medical-related attendance issues usually aren't considered misconduct if you can document the medical condition and that you attempted to work with your employer on accommodations. You'd likely need medical documentation though.

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I have all my doctor visits documented, so that should help if I need to appeal.

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Does anyone know if lying on your application is an automatic disqualification? Asking for a friend who may have... embellished some details.

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Yes, providing false information is grounds for disqualification and can result in overpayment demands plus penalties. Your 'friend' should consider coming clean and correcting any misinformation before Washington ESD discovers it.

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Yikes. I'll... I mean my friend will definitely want to fix that ASAP.

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I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for months about a potential disqualification issue. The phone system is completely broken. Has anyone actually gotten through recently?

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This is exactly why I used Claimyr. I was in the same boat, calling dozens of times and never getting through. Their service connected me within a day and I got my issue resolved. Check out claimyr.com if you're tired of the runaround.

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At this point I'm willing to try anything. The regular system is completely useless.

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Can you get denied for being overqualified for jobs? I have a master's degree but I'm applying for entry-level positions and Washington ESD is questioning whether those are 'suitable work' for me.

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Generally no, but suitable work requirements do consider your previous wages and job skills. If you're consistently turning down jobs that pay significantly more than the entry-level ones you're applying for, that could be an issue.

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That makes sense. I'm not turning down better jobs, I'm just not finding any in my field right now.

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Bottom line is Washington ESD looks for any reason to deny claims. Document everything, be completely honest, and appeal if you get denied for something that doesn't seem right. The appeals process actually works if you have good documentation.

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Thanks everyone. This gives me a much better idea of what to watch out for when I file my claim.

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Good luck with your claim. Remember that even if you get initially denied, appeals are common and often successful if you have valid grounds.

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One thing I learned the hard way - if you're collecting benefits and get a job offer, you can't just turn it down because you don't like it. It has to be unsuitable work based on specific criteria or you'll get disqualified.

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What makes a job 'unsuitable'? Just curious in case this comes up for me.

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Things like unsafe working conditions, significantly lower pay than your previous job (varies by how long you've been unemployed), or requiring skills you don't have and can't reasonably learn.

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