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Why can unemployment be denied - Washington ESD disqualification reasons explained

I'm trying to understand all the different reasons Washington ESD can deny or disqualify someone from unemployment benefits. My neighbor just got denied and she's really confused about why. I know there are rules about quitting vs being fired, but what are all the specific reasons they can reject your claim? I want to make sure I understand everything before I potentially need to file myself.

There are several main categories for Washington ESD disqualifications. The most common ones are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause, 2) Misconduct discharge, 3) Not able and available for work, 4) Refusing suitable work, 5) Not actively seeking work, and 6) Issues with wages or work history. Each category has specific criteria that Washington ESD uses to determine eligibility.

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What exactly counts as 'good cause' for quitting? I've heard conflicting information about this.

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Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to job duties or pay, health issues, or domestic violence situations. It has to be something that would make a reasonable person quit.

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Misconduct is another big one that trips people up. It's not just being a bad employee - it has to be willful or wanton disregard of employer interests. Things like theft, violence, repeated tardiness after warnings, or violating company policies can qualify as misconduct.

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So if you're just not good at your job but trying your best, that wouldn't be misconduct?

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Correct. Poor performance due to inability or lack of skills isn't misconduct. It has to be intentional behavior that goes against the employer's interests.

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This is really helpful! I didn't realize there was such a specific definition for misconduct.

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The able and available requirement catches a lot of people off guard too. You have to be physically and mentally able to work, available for work during normal business hours, and not have restrictions that would prevent you from accepting suitable work.

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What if you can only work certain hours because of childcare? Does that disqualify you?

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Not necessarily. You can have some restrictions, but they can't be so limiting that you're not available for a substantial portion of the job market in your area.

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Job search requirements are another area where people get disqualified. You have to make at least 3 job contacts per week and keep a log of your search activities. If you don't meet these requirements or can't document them properly, Washington ESD can deny your benefits.

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Do online applications count as job contacts?

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Yes, online applications count, but you need to keep detailed records including the employer name, position, date applied, and method of application.

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I didn't know about the 3 contacts per week requirement. That's good to know.

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Wage issues can also cause denials. If you don't have sufficient wages in your base period, or if there are disputes about your work history, Washington ESD might deny your claim. You need to have worked and earned wages in at least two quarters of your base period.

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What's a base period? I keep seeing this term but don't understand what it means.

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The base period is the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. It's used to determine if you have enough wages to qualify for benefits.

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Don't forget about refusing suitable work! If Washington ESD or WorkSource refers you to a job and you turn it down without good cause, they can disqualify you. The job has to be suitable based on your skills, experience, and local wage standards.

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How do they define 'suitable work'? Can they force you to take any job?

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Suitable work considers factors like your previous wages, skills, physical abilities, and distance from your home. They can't force you to take just any job, but the standards do become less restrictive the longer you're unemployed.

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That makes sense. I was worried they'd make me take a minimum wage job right away.

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Immigration status can also affect eligibility. You have to be authorized to work in the US to receive unemployment benefits. Washington ESD will verify your work authorization status as part of the claims process.

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What documents do they need to verify work authorization?

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Usually they'll ask for your Social Security card, driver's license, or other documents that show you're authorized to work. The specific requirements depend on your individual situation.

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School attendance can also be an issue. If you're attending school or training full-time, you might not be considered available for work. There are some exceptions for approved training programs, but it's something to be aware of.

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What if you're taking just one evening class? Would that disqualify you?

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Part-time school usually isn't a problem as long as it doesn't interfere with your availability for work. Full-time enrollment is where issues typically arise.

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My cousin got denied because she had unreported income while collecting benefits. Even small amounts of work income need to be reported on your weekly claims. Failing to report income is considered fraud and can lead to overpayment demands and penalties.

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How much income can you earn before it affects your benefits?

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In Washington, you can earn up to your weekly benefit amount minus $5 before your benefits are reduced. But you still have to report ANY income, even if it's just $1.

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That's a really important point. I almost didn't report a small side job thinking it wouldn't matter.

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Yes, they got me connected to an agent who walked me through exactly what documentation I needed to submit. Claim was approved within a week after that.

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Labor disputes can also cause denials. If you're unemployed because of a strike or other labor dispute at your workplace, you might not be eligible for benefits. This is pretty specific but worth mentioning.

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Does this apply to lockouts too, or just strikes?

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It can apply to various types of labor disputes, including lockouts. The specific circumstances matter a lot in these cases.

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Prison or jail time is another disqualifier. You can't receive unemployment benefits while incarcerated. This seems obvious but it's worth mentioning since it's an official reason for denial.

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What about house arrest or ankle monitoring? Would that affect eligibility?

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Those situations would depend on whether they prevent you from being available for work. Each case would be evaluated individually.

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Self-employment income can also cause issues. If you're receiving unemployment but also working for yourself, even occasionally, you need to report that income. Many people don't realize that freelance work or gig economy jobs count as employment.

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I do some Uber driving occasionally. Do I need to report that even if I only make like $20 in a week?

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Yes, you need to report any income from self-employment, including rideshare driving, regardless of the amount.

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The key thing to remember is that most denials can be appealed if you disagree with Washington ESD's decision. You have 30 days from the date of the determination to file an appeal. Make sure you understand the specific reason for denial before deciding whether to appeal.

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Is there any cost to file an appeal?

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No, there's no cost to file an appeal with Washington ESD. You can do it online, by phone, or by mail.

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This whole thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel like I understand the system much better now.

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One last thing - sometimes denials happen due to identity verification issues. If Washington ESD can't verify your identity or if there are concerns about fraud, they might deny your claim until you can provide additional documentation.

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What kind of identity documents do they typically ask for?

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Usually a combination of photo ID, Social Security card, and proof of address. Sometimes they want additional documents depending on the specific situation.

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I had a really complex situation with my employer disputing my claim. Couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks to provide my side of the story. Used Claimyr to finally connect with an agent and was able to submit the evidence I needed. The system is frustrating but there are ways to work around the phone issues.

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Employer disputes are so stressful. Did you need a lawyer or were you able to handle it yourself?

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I handled it myself once I could actually talk to someone at Washington ESD. They walked me through what documentation would be most helpful for my case.

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Bottom line is that Washington ESD has to follow specific rules when determining eligibility. Understanding these rules can help you avoid common pitfalls and know what to expect if you need to file a claim. Most denials are based on clearly defined criteria, not arbitrary decisions.

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This thread should be required reading for anyone thinking about filing for unemployment. So much good information here.

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Agreed! I wish I had known about half of this stuff when I first filed my claim.

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Thanks everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences. This has been incredibly educational.

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