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Javier Mendoza

Why would you get denied for unemployment benefits in Washington State?

I'm trying to understand all the reasons someone might get denied for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My neighbor just got denied and she's really confused about it. I want to make sure I don't make any mistakes when I file my claim next week after my layoff. What are the main reasons Washington ESD denies unemployment claims? I've heard about voluntary quit vs being fired but there seem to be other reasons too.

There are several common reasons for denial. The main ones are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause, 2) Fired for misconduct, 3) Not available for work or not actively seeking work, 4) Insufficient earnings in your base period, 5) Not meeting the able and available requirements. Each has specific criteria that Washington ESD evaluates during adjudication.

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What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My neighbor said she quit because of a hostile work environment but got denied anyway.

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Good cause is pretty specific - things like unsafe working conditions, discrimination, significant changes to job duties or pay, or domestic violence situations. Hostile work environment can qualify but you need documentation and usually need to have tried to resolve it first.

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I got denied initially because I didn't realize you had to be actively job searching from day one. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week and you have to log them in WorkSourceWA. A lot of people think you get time to 'recover' from being laid off but that's not how it works.

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Wait, you have to start job searching immediately? I thought there was like a waiting period where you didn't have to do anything.

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Nope, job search requirements start with your first week of claiming. The only 'waiting week' is that you don't get paid for the first week, but you still have to meet all the requirements including job search.

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Another big reason is insufficient earnings. You need to have earned enough wages in your base period (first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters). Washington ESD has specific dollar amounts you need to meet. If you were part-time or just started working recently, you might not qualify.

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How much do you need to have earned? I worked part-time for about 8 months before getting laid off.

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It's complicated but generally you need at least $1,000 in your highest quarter and total base period wages of at least 1.5 times your highest quarter amount. Washington ESD calculates this automatically when you apply.

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I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my denial but can never get through on the phone. The wait times are insane and I keep getting disconnected. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to someone there? I need to understand why I was denied so I can file an appeal properly.

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Misconduct is a tricky one. It's not just being fired - it has to be 'willful or wanton disregard' of your employer's interests. Being late occasionally or making honest mistakes usually doesn't qualify as misconduct, but things like theft, fighting, or repeatedly violating clear policies can.

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What if you were fired for attendance but you had medical issues? Does that count as misconduct?

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If you have documented medical issues and followed proper procedures for requesting accommodations, that usually wouldn't be misconduct. But you'd need medical documentation and evidence you tried to work with your employer.

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Don't forget about the 'able and available' requirement. You have to be physically and mentally able to work and available for full-time work during normal business hours. If you're going to school full-time, have childcare issues, or have restrictions that limit your availability, you might get denied.

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What about if you're only available for part-time work? Can you still get benefits?

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Generally no, you have to be available for full-time work. There are some exceptions for certain circumstances but it's pretty strict. Washington ESD wants to see you're genuinely seeking and available for substantial work.

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I got denied because I moved to a different state right after being laid off. Apparently you have to remain in Washington or at least be available for work in Washington's job market. Makes sense when you think about it but I didn't realize it at the time.

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Wait, you can't move and still collect? What if you move for family reasons or to look for work?

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You can move but you have to show you're still actively seeking work and available for employment. If you move somewhere with limited job opportunities in your field, or if you're not genuinely available for work, they'll deny you.

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Another thing people don't realize is that independent contractors and gig workers often get denied because they don't have traditional W-2 employment. If you were a 1099 contractor or worked for Uber/DoorDash type companies, you might not qualify for regular unemployment benefits.

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Is there any unemployment for gig workers then? I drive for rideshare and always wondered about this.

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There was PUA during COVID but that's ended. Generally independent contractors don't qualify for regular unemployment unless they also had W-2 employment that meets the wage requirements.

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If you do get denied, don't give up! You have the right to appeal and many denials get overturned if you have good documentation. The key is filing your appeal within 30 days and providing clear evidence to support your case. I won my appeal after initially being denied for 'voluntary quit.

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How hard is the appeal process? Do you need a lawyer?

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You don't need a lawyer but it helps to be organized. Gather all your documentation, write a clear statement explaining your situation, and be prepared for a phone hearing. The Administrative Law Judge will listen to both sides and make a decision.

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One thing that trips people up is not reporting earnings correctly. If you do any work while claiming benefits, even small amounts, you MUST report it. Failing to report earnings or reporting them incorrectly can result in denial and overpayment issues.

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What if you forget to report something small? Like $50 from a one-time job?

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You should report it as soon as you remember. Washington ESD has ways to find out about unreported earnings, and it's better to be honest and fix it yourself than get caught later.

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The system is honestly pretty harsh. I've seen people denied for things that seem minor, but Washington ESD follows the rules strictly. The best advice is to be completely honest in your application and make sure you understand all the requirements before you start claiming.

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Yeah, they don't mess around. Better to over-document everything than assume they'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

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This is all really helpful. I'm definitely going to make sure I have everything documented before I apply. Thanks everyone!

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Just want to add that timing matters too. If you wait too long to file your claim after becoming unemployed, you might lose benefits for those weeks. You should file as soon as possible after your last day of work, even if you're not sure you'll qualify.

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How long do you have to file? I was laid off 3 weeks ago but haven't filed yet because I was hoping to find something quickly.

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You can backdate your claim but only for a limited time and with good cause. File as soon as possible - you can always stop claiming if you find work, but you can't always get back pay for weeks you delayed filing.

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The adjudication process is where a lot of denials happen. If there's any question about your eligibility - whether you quit, were fired, your job search efforts, etc. - your claim goes to adjudication. This can take weeks and they'll contact you and your employer for more information.

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My claim has been in adjudication for 3 weeks. Is that normal? I'm starting to panic about my bills.

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3 weeks is unfortunately pretty normal right now. I used Claimyr to get through to an agent and check on my adjudication status. At least then I knew what was happening instead of just waiting and wondering.

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I might try that. The uncertainty is almost worse than knowing I'm denied at least then I could plan.

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Don't forget that even if you're approved initially, you can still get denied later if you don't meet ongoing requirements. You have to file your weekly claims on time, do your job searches, report any earnings, and remain able and available. Miss any of these and your benefits can stop.

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Mei Lin

How strict are they about the weekly claim deadlines? What if you're a day late?

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Pretty strict. You can sometimes get late claims accepted if you have good cause, but it's not guaranteed. Better to set reminders and file on time every week.

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I work in HR and see a lot of unemployment claims. The biggest mistake I see people make is not understanding that unemployment is for people who are unemployed through no fault of their own. If you have any control over becoming unemployed - quitting, getting fired for cause, etc. - you need to have a really good reason that fits Washington ESD's definitions.

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That's really helpful perspective. What advice would you give someone who's about to be laid off?

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Document everything - your layoff notice, any severance information, your employment history. Be prepared to explain exactly what happened and why you're unemployed. And file your claim right away, don't wait.

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The whole system is designed to make sure benefits only go to people who really qualify. It might seem harsh but remember that it's funded by employer taxes and needs to be sustainable. Still frustrating when you're the one dealing with it though!

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I get that they need to prevent fraud, but sometimes it feels like they're trying to deny everyone just to save money.

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I had that same feeling until I actually got approved. The process is thorough but if you really qualify and follow the rules, it does work. Just takes patience and documentation.

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This is such a comprehensive thread - thank you everyone for sharing your experiences! As someone who's about to file after a layoff, I'm realizing there are way more potential pitfalls than I thought. The job search requirement starting immediately is definitely something I wouldn't have known about. I'm going to make sure I have all my documentation ready and start applying for jobs right away. It sounds like being proactive and honest is key. Does anyone know if there are any resources from Washington ESD itself that explain all these requirements clearly in one place? I want to make sure I don't miss anything important.

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Yes! Washington ESD has a handbook on their website that covers most of the requirements, but honestly it can be pretty dense to read through. I'd recommend checking out their "Unemployment Benefits Handbook" and the job search requirements page specifically. Also, WorkSourceWA has good info about the job search activities that count. One thing that really helped me was calling the teleclaim line just to hear the recorded messages about requirements - sometimes hearing it explained differently clicks better than reading it. Good luck with your claim!

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