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Liam O'Connor

Why would someone get denied unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm trying to understand all the reasons someone might get their unemployment claim denied by Washington ESD. My sister just got rejected and we're both confused about what could have gone wrong. She worked full-time for 2 years before getting laid off, so we thought it would be straightforward. What are the most common reasons Washington ESD denies claims? I want to make sure I don't make the same mistakes when I file mine next week.

There are several common reasons Washington ESD denies unemployment claims. The most frequent ones I've seen are: 1) Not earning enough wages during your base period, 2) Quitting your job voluntarily without good cause, 3) Being fired for misconduct, 4) Not being able and available for work, 5) Failing to actively seek work, and 6) Refusing suitable job offers. Each situation is different though - what reason did they give your sister?

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They said something about 'separation issues' but didn't explain what that means. She was definitely laid off, not fired or quit.

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Separation issues usually means they're questioning the circumstances of how she left her job. Even if she says she was laid off, Washington ESD verifies this with the employer. Sometimes there's a miscommunication about whether it was a layoff, firing, or quit.

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honestly the whole system is set up to deny people. i got denied first time too even though i had every right to benefits. they make it so complicated on purpose

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While it can feel that way, Washington ESD has specific eligibility requirements they must follow by law. The key is understanding what they're looking for and making sure your application is complete and accurate.

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maybe but they sure dont make it easy to understand what they want

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I got denied last month because I didn't meet the earnings requirement. You need to have earned at least $7,000 during your base period, and I was just short. Had to appeal and provide additional wage information from a job that wasn't showing up in their system.

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How do you find out what your base period earnings are? Is that something Washington ESD calculates automatically?

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They calculate it based on the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file. You can see this info in your Washington ESD account under 'Monetary Determination' once you file.

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Never heard of that before. Does it actually work? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my denial.

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Yeah it worked for me. I was able to get through and talk to someone who explained exactly why I was denied and what I needed to do to appeal. Worth checking out if you're stuck.

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Another common denial reason is not registering for work search activities. In Washington, you must register with WorkSource within 4 weeks of filing your claim and actively look for work each week. If you don't do this or can't prove you're doing it, they'll deny your claim.

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Wait, you have to register with WorkSource? I thought that was optional. How do you do that?

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It's required unless you're on standby or have a definite return to work date. You register at WorkSourceWA.com and then log your job search activities each week when you file your weekly claim.

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Medical issues can also cause denials. If you can't work due to illness or injury, you're not 'able and available' for work, which is a requirement. You'd need to apply for disability benefits instead, or wait until you're cleared to work again.

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That makes sense. So unemployment is only for people who are healthy and ready to work immediately?

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Exactly. You have to be physically and mentally able to work, available for work, and actively seeking work. If any of those aren't true, you won't qualify.

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Don't forget about the 'suitable work' requirement. If Washington ESD thinks you refused a job offer that was suitable for your skills and experience, they can deny your claim. The definition of 'suitable' changes over time - after several weeks of unemployment, you might be expected to take jobs that pay less than your previous job.

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How do they know if you refused a job offer? Do employers report that to Washington ESD?

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Yes, employers can report it, or it might come up during a fact-finding interview. You're also supposed to report any job offers you receive when you file your weekly claims.

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Immigration status can be an issue too. If you're not authorized to work in the US, you can't get unemployment benefits. Washington ESD verifies work authorization as part of the application process.

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Good point. I assume they check this against Social Security records or something?

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Yeah, they cross-reference with federal databases. If there's any question about work authorization, they'll request additional documentation.

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School attendance is another one people don't think about. If you're attending school full-time, Washington ESD might deny your claim because you're not available for full-time work. There are some exceptions for approved training programs, but regular college classes usually disqualify you.

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What about part-time classes? Would that be okay?

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Part-time classes are usually fine as long as they don't interfere with your ability to work full-time. But you need to report your school schedule when you file.

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Self-employment can complicate things too. If you're doing any freelance work or running a business while collecting unemployment, you need to report it. If Washington ESD thinks you're not truly available for work because you're focused on your business, they might deny your claim.

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Even small amounts of freelance work? Like if someone makes $50 a week doing side jobs?

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Any amount needs to be reported. Small amounts might just reduce your weekly benefit, but hiding it can lead to denial and overpayment issues.

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age discrimination is real too. They dont say it but older workers get denied more often. They question whether youre really looking for work or just coasting to retirement

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Washington ESD can't legally discriminate based on age. If you're meeting all the requirements and actively job searching, age shouldn't be a factor in eligibility.

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maybe not officially but ive seen it happen. they ask a lot more questions about job search efforts for people over 50

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Previous overpayments can cause problems too. If you owe Washington ESD money from a previous claim, they might withhold benefits from your new claim until the debt is paid. It's not exactly a denial, but it has the same effect.

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Can you set up a payment plan for old overpayments, or do they take everything?

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You can usually arrange a payment plan or have them take a percentage of your weekly benefits instead of the full amount. You need to contact them to set this up though.

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One more thing about the Claimyr service mentioned earlier - I used it too when I was dealing with my wage issue. It really does help you get through to Washington ESD faster than calling on your own. The wait times to reach an agent are insane otherwise.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already struggling financially.

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I don't remember the exact cost but it was worth it to get my claim resolved. Check their website for current pricing. Sometimes spending a little to get your benefits flowing is better than waiting weeks or months.

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Seasonal workers sometimes get denied too. If you only work part of the year (like construction or agriculture), Washington ESD might question whether you're truly available for year-round work. You need to show that you're seeking work during your off-season.

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That seems unfair. If your industry is seasonal, why wouldn't you qualify for unemployment during the off-season?

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You can qualify, but you have to prove you're looking for other work during the off-season, not just waiting for your seasonal job to start up again.

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Don't forget about the waiting week. Even if you're approved, you won't get paid for your first week of unemployment. Some people think they were denied when they just haven't waited long enough for their first payment.

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There's a waiting week? So you file and then wait a week before getting any money?

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Exactly. The first week is unpaid, then you get paid for subsequent weeks. It's not a denial, just how the system works.

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False information on your application will definitely get you denied. Washington ESD verifies everything - your employment history, wages, reason for separation. If they catch any discrepancies, they'll deny your claim and might even pursue fraud charges.

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What if you made an honest mistake on your application? Would they still deny you?

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Honest mistakes can usually be corrected, but it depends on the situation. If it's a small error, they'll often just ask for clarification. But if it's something major that affects eligibility, you might need to appeal.

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Military discharge status can affect eligibility too. If you were dishonorably discharged, you might not be eligible for unemployment benefits. But most other types of discharge shouldn't be a problem.

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I didn't know military service affected unemployment eligibility. Are there special rules for veterans?

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Veterans can use their military service to qualify for unemployment benefits, and there are some special programs. But the type of discharge matters for eligibility.

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The key thing is that if you get denied, you can appeal within 30 days. Don't just accept the denial - if you think you're eligible, fight it. Many denials get overturned on appeal when people provide additional information or clarification.

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Thanks everyone for all this information. I'll make sure my sister appeals her denial and I'll be extra careful when I file my own claim.

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Good luck to both of you! The appeals process can take time, but it's worth it if you're truly eligible. Make sure to keep filing weekly claims even while the appeal is pending.

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One last tip - if you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD about a denial, that Claimyr service really does work. I was skeptical at first, but it saved me weeks of trying to get through on my own. Sometimes you need to talk to a human to understand what went wrong with your claim.

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I'll definitely look into that if we can't figure out my sister's denial. Thanks for the recommendation!

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I'm going to try it too. I've been calling Washington ESD for three weeks about my denial with no luck.

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Another reason people get denied that hasn't been mentioned yet is refusing to participate in reemployment services. Washington ESD sometimes requires certain claimants to attend workshops, job fairs, or meet with career counselors. If you're selected for these services and don't show up or participate, they can deny your benefits. They usually send you a notice if you're required to participate, so make sure to read all your mail from ESD carefully.

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