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What reasons can you be denied unemployment by Washington ESD?

I'm thinking about filing for unemployment benefits but want to understand all the ways Washington ESD can deny your claim before I submit my application. I've heard there are different reasons they can reject you but I'm not sure what they all are. Can someone break down the main reasons Washington ESD denies unemployment claims? I want to make sure I don't have any issues that would automatically disqualify me.

There are several main categories where Washington ESD can deny your claim. The most common ones are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause (like quitting because you didn't like your boss), 2) Misconduct (getting fired for breaking rules, attendance issues, etc.), 3) Not meeting work/wage requirements (didn't work enough or earn enough in your base period), 4) Not able and available to work (can't work due to injury, not looking for work), and 5) Refusing suitable work offers. Each category has specific rules.

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Thanks for the breakdown! What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? I'm worried about my current situation.

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Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties or pay, harassment, or domestic violence situations. Washington ESD looks at each case individually.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements too. Even if you qualify initially, Washington ESD can cut off your benefits if you're not actively looking for work or not documenting your job search activities properly. You need to make at least 3 job contacts per week and keep detailed records.

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Wait, is it really 3 contacts per week? I thought it was more than that.

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It's 3 for most people, but can be higher depending on your situation. Check your eligibility requirements on your Washington ESD account.

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Another big reason for denial is if you're receiving other benefits that conflict with unemployment. Like if you're getting workers' compensation, disability benefits, or certain types of pensions, Washington ESD might reduce or deny your UI benefits. They also deny if you're not a U.S. citizen or don't have work authorization.

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What about if you're self-employed? Can that affect your claim?

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Self-employment income has to be reported and can reduce your weekly benefit amount. If you're making too much from self-employment, you might not qualify for that week.

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I got denied initially because I didn't have enough wages in my base period. Turns out I needed to request an alternate base period that included more recent wages. A lot of people don't know about this option and just accept the denial.

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How do you request an alternate base period? Is there a deadline for that?

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You have to request it within a certain timeframe after your initial denial. Check the denial letter for specific instructions or call Washington ESD to ask about it.

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The whole system is so confusing! I've been trying to figure out if I'd qualify and every website gives different information. Some say you need to work 680 hours, others mention different wage amounts. Why can't Washington ESD just make this clear?

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The wage/hour requirements change annually and depend on when you file. For 2025, you generally need wages in at least two quarters of your base period and meet minimum wage thresholds. The exact amounts are on the Washington ESD website.

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Thanks, I'll check the official site. This is all so stressful to navigate.

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They can also deny you for fraud or misrepresentation. If you lie on your application or don't report income properly, that's an automatic disqualification plus you might have to pay penalties. Washington ESD cross-checks everything.

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How strict are they about reporting part-time work? I'm worried about making a mistake.

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Very strict. You need to report ALL income, even if it's just a few hours. It's better to over-report than under-report. They'll adjust your benefits accordingly.

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Don't forget about the school attendance rules. If you're a student attending school more than half time, you might not qualify for benefits unless you meet specific exceptions. This trips up a lot of people.

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What about online classes? Do those count the same way?

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Yes, online classes count toward your total course load. Washington ESD looks at your total credit hours, not just in-person classes.

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I've seen people get denied for not being available for work. Like if you can only work certain days or hours, or if you're not willing to commute a reasonable distance. Washington ESD expects you to be flexible about work opportunities.

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What's considered a reasonable commute distance?

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It varies but generally up to an hour each way or what's normal for your occupation and area. They consider factors like public transportation availability too.

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Another thing - if you're involved in a labor dispute or strike, you can't get benefits. Washington ESD considers that a voluntary work stoppage even if it's union-related.

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What about if the strike ends but you're not called back immediately?

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Once the labor dispute ends, you might be eligible again if you meet all other requirements. But you can't get benefits for the weeks during the actual dispute.

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I had a friend who got denied because he was receiving Social Security retirement benefits. Washington ESD said he couldn't get both at the same time. The pension offset rules are complicated.

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That seems unfair if you paid into both systems!

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I agree, but that's how the rules work. Some pensions reduce your benefits, others disqualify you completely. It depends on the type and amount.

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The documentation requirements can trip you up too. If you can't provide proper proof of your work history, wages, or identity, they'll deny your claim. Make sure you have all your paperwork ready before filing.

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What kind of documents do they typically ask for?

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Usually pay stubs, tax returns, bank statements, and identity verification. Sometimes they want separation notices from employers or medical documentation if you're claiming inability to work.

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I was almost denied because I didn't respond to a request for information quickly enough. Washington ESD gives you a deadline to provide additional info, and if you miss it, they'll deny your claim. Check your account and mail regularly!

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How long do they usually give you to respond?

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It varies but usually 10-14 days. The deadline is clearly stated in the notice. Don't wait until the last minute to respond.

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The agent I spoke with through Claimyr was able to explain the appeal process and deadlines, which saved me from missing the window to appeal.

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One more thing - if you're in training or education programs, there are special rules. Some approved training programs allow you to keep getting benefits, but others don't. Washington ESD has to approve the training beforehand.

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How do you get training approved?

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You need to apply for approval before starting the training. There are specific forms and criteria. Not all training programs qualify, so check with Washington ESD first.

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The key thing to remember is that most denials can be appealed if you disagree with Washington ESD's decision. You have 30 days from the date of the determination to file an appeal. Don't give up if you think the decision was wrong.

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Is the appeal process difficult?

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It can be, but it's worth it if you have a valid case. You'll need to present evidence and possibly attend a hearing. Having documentation helps a lot.

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Thanks everyone for all this information! This thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel much better prepared now to file my claim and know what to watch out for. Saving this for reference.

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Good luck with your claim! Hope everything goes smoothly for you.

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Yes, this has been super helpful! I feel like I understand the process much better now. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain everything.

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