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What reasons can you be denied unemployment in Washington State?

I'm trying to understand all the ways Washington ESD can deny your unemployment claim before I apply. My last job ended under complicated circumstances and I want to make sure I don't get automatically disqualified. I've heard there are lots of reasons they can deny you but I can't find a complete list anywhere. Does anyone know what the main disqualification reasons are? I'm worried about wasting time filing if I'm just going to get rejected.

The main reasons Washington ESD denies claims are: 1) You quit without good cause, 2) You were fired for misconduct, 3) You're not able and available to work, 4) You don't meet the wage requirements, 5) You refuse suitable work, 6) You don't do your job search activities. There are also issues with identity verification and if you're not authorized to work in the US.

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What exactly counts as 'misconduct' though? Is being late a few times considered misconduct?

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Misconduct has to be willful or deliberate. Being late occasionally usually isn't enough unless it's a pattern and you were warned. Things like stealing, fighting, drug use at work, or deliberately not following safety rules are clear misconduct.

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Don't forget about the earnings requirement too - you need to have earned at least $8,470 in your base year to qualify. I got denied my first time because I didn't work enough hours in the right quarters.

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How do they calculate the base year? Is it the last 12 months before you file?

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No, it's the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you apply. So if you file in March 2025, your base year would be October 2023 through September 2024.

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It's worth it if you need real answers about your claim. Much better than calling 800 numbers over and over getting busy signals.

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You can also be denied if you're going to school full time or if you have a pension that's too high. And if you move out of state you might have issues with the work search requirements.

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What about if you're taking online classes part time? Would that disqualify you?

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Part time is usually okay as long as it doesn't interfere with your ability to work. Full time school makes you unavailable for work in their eyes.

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I was taking 2 classes and had no problems with my claim. Just had to explain it during the phone interview.

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THE BIGGEST REASON PPL GET DENIED IS NOT UNDERSTANDING THE ABLE AND AVAILABLE REQUIREMENT!!! You have to be physically and mentally able to work AND available for work every week you claim. If you're sick, on vacation, have no childcare, whatever - you're not available that week.

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So if I get sick for a week I lose my whole claim?

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No you just don't get paid for that week. You mark yourself as not available on your weekly claim. But if you're not available for too many weeks they might question if you're really looking for work.

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This is confusing - I thought if you were sick you could still get unemployment?

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Another big one is the work search requirement. You need to do at least 3 job search activities per week and keep a log. If you don't do this or can't prove you did it during an audit, you can be disqualified and have to pay back benefits.

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What counts as a job search activity? Just applying for jobs?

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Applying for jobs, networking, going to job fairs, creating/updating your resume, using WorkSourceWA services, interviewing. You need to document everything with dates and contact info.

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I got audited and barely had enough documentation. Keep detailed records from day one!

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Immigration status can also get you denied. You have to be authorized to work in the US. And if you have any issues with your identity verification that can hold up or deny your claim too.

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What kind of identity verification do they require?

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Usually they want to see your driver's license or state ID and Social Security card. Sometimes they ask for additional documents if there are questions about your identity.

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wait can you be denied for quitting even if your boss was horrible? what if they were harassing you or making you work in unsafe conditions?

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You can quit for 'good cause' and still get benefits. Things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job, or domestic violence situations can be good cause. But you usually need to try to resolve the issue first.

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how do you prove harassment though? i didn't think to document everything when it was happening

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Any documentation helps - emails, texts, witness statements, HR complaints, medical records if it affected your health. Even if you don't have much, you can still appeal if you're denied.

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Don't forget about voluntary quit for personal reasons too. Like if you quit to move with your spouse or take care of a family member - that's usually not good cause unless it meets very specific criteria.

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What if you quit because you got a better job offer but then that job fell through?

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That's tricky. You'd have to show that the new job was a definite offer and something happened beyond your control. It's case by case.

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Honestly, if you have any doubts about your eligibility, it's worth talking to someone at Washington ESD directly. I used Claimyr again recently when I had questions about my work search requirements and got through to an agent in like 15 minutes instead of spending hours on hold.

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Is Claimyr legit? I'm always skeptical of these third party services.

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Yeah it's real. They just help you get through the phone queue faster. You still talk to actual Washington ESD agents, not Claimyr people.

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You can also be denied if you don't register with WorkSourceWA within a certain timeframe or if you don't participate in required reemployment services. Some people don't realize this is mandatory.

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When do you have to register with WorkSourceWA? Is it right away?

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You're supposed to register within your first week of filing, and definitely before your first weekly claim. It's part of being 'available for work.

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I forgot to do this and got a scary letter but they gave me a chance to fix it. Don't panic if you missed it, just do it ASAP.

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Military discharge can affect eligibility too. Dishonorable discharge usually disqualifies you, but other types of discharge are usually fine. Also if you're getting military retirement pay it might reduce your benefits.

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What about National Guard or Reserve duty? Does that affect anything?

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Reserve duty shouldn't disqualify you but you need to report any military pay you receive. It might reduce your weekly benefit amount.

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ANOTHER BIG ONE - if you refuse a job offer that's considered 'suitable work' you can be denied. Suitable work changes as you're unemployed longer. First few weeks it has to be similar to your old job, but after a while they expect you to take lower paying work.

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How much lower can the pay be before it's not considered suitable?

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Generally it starts at 80% of your previous wage and goes down from there. But there are exceptions for things like commute distance and working conditions.

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I turned down a job that paid half what I used to make and they said it was suitable after 12 weeks. Had to appeal it.

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what about if you were an independent contractor? can you get denied for that?

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Independent contractors usually can't get regular unemployment benefits because they don't pay into the system. You'd need to look into other programs or prove you were misclassified as an independent contractor when you should have been an employee.

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oh that makes sense. i was wondering why my 1099 work didn't count toward my wages

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Fraud can get you permanently banned from unemployment. If you lie about anything on your application or weekly claims, they can not only deny you but make you pay back everything plus penalties.

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What if you make an honest mistake on your application? Is that considered fraud?

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Honest mistakes usually aren't fraud if you correct them when discovered. Fraud is when you deliberately lie or hide information. But always be as accurate as possible from the start.

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If you realize you made a mistake, report it to Washington ESD immediately. It's much better to fix it yourself than have them find it later.

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Don't forget about the waiting week either. Your first week of unemployment is a waiting week where you don't get paid, but you still have to file a claim. Some people think they got denied when really they just didn't understand the waiting week.

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So you never get paid for that first week even if everything goes smoothly?

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Right, the waiting week is unpaid. It's just how the system works. You start getting paid from your second week if you're eligible.

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Age discrimination isn't a reason to be denied unemployment, but I've seen older workers have a harder time with the work search requirements because some employers won't hire them. Just want to clarify that age itself isn't disqualifying.

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That's good to know. I was worried about that.

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Yeah, as long as you're doing your job search activities and are able and available, age shouldn't matter for unemployment eligibility.

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The bottom line is there are a lot of ways to get denied, but most of them are avoidable if you understand the rules and are honest on your application. If you do get denied, you have the right to appeal. And if you need help understanding your specific situation, services like Claimyr can help you get through to Washington ESD agents who can give you guidance.

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This has been really helpful. I think I understand the main reasons now. Thanks everyone for taking the time to explain all this.

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Good luck with your claim! The system seems scary at first but once you understand it, it's not that bad.

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One more thing - seasonal workers and school employees have special rules. Like if you work for a school district, you might not be able to collect during summer break or between school years.

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What about substitute teachers? Do they have the same restrictions?

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It depends on how much you work and whether you have a reasonable assurance of returning to work. It's complicated for education workers.

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also if you owe child support they can take money from your unemployment benefits. not sure if that's a denial reason but it definitely affects how much you get

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They can take unemployment money for child support? I didn't know that.

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yeah they can garnish up to 50% i think. it doesn't disqualify you but it reduces your payment

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