What reasons can you be denied unemployment in Washington state?
I'm worried about applying for unemployment benefits because I've heard there are lots of ways to get denied. My last job ended under circumstances that might be questionable - I had some attendance issues but they said it was a layoff due to restructuring. Before I file with Washington ESD, I want to know all the possible reasons they can deny your claim so I don't waste time or make things worse. Can anyone break down the main disqualification reasons?
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Kristin Frank
The main reasons Washington ESD denies unemployment claims fall into a few categories: 1) Quit without good cause 2) Fired for misconduct 3) Not available/able to work 4) Not actively seeking work 5) Refusing suitable work. Your situation sounds like it could go either way - if they documented the attendance issues as misconduct vs. if the layoff was legitimate due to restructuring.
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Jabari-Jo
•That's what I'm worried about. The attendance was definitely an issue but they never formally wrote me up for it. Does that matter?
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Kristin Frank
•It can matter a lot actually. Without formal documentation of progressive discipline, it's harder for them to prove misconduct. Washington ESD looks at whether the employer followed their own policies.
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Micah Trail
Don't overthink it too much - just file the claim and let Washington ESD sort it out. The worst that happens is they deny it and you can appeal. I got denied initially for 'job abandonment' even though I gave two weeks notice, but won on appeal.
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Jabari-Jo
•How long did the appeal process take? I can't afford to wait months for a decision.
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Micah Trail
•Mine took about 6 weeks from filing the appeal to getting the hearing scheduled. Then another 2 weeks for the decision.
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Nia Watson
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Alberto Souchard
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Nia Watson
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Katherine Shultz
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Marcus Marsh
Here's the full breakdown of Washington ESD disqualification reasons: Voluntary quit (unless good cause like unsafe conditions, harassment, etc.), Discharge for misconduct (gross misconduct = permanent bar, regular misconduct = temporary), Not able/available (illness, childcare issues, etc.), Inadequate job search, Refusing suitable work offers, Fraud/false statements, Not earning enough in base period, Working while claiming benefits without reporting. Each has different rules and some can be overcome.
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Jabari-Jo
•This is super helpful! What counts as 'suitable work' that you can't refuse? Is it anything in your field or any job at all?
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Marcus Marsh
•Suitable work considers your skills, experience, prior wages, and how long you've been unemployed. Early on you can be pickier, but after several weeks you may need to accept jobs outside your usual field or at lower pay.
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Hailey O'Leary
honestly the whole system is designed to deny people. they'll find any excuse - i got denied because i didn't apply to enough jobs one week even though i was sick with covid and couldnt barely get out of bed. had to appeal and prove i was sick just to get that one week approved. its ridiculous
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Kristin Frank
•That's frustrating but illness should qualify for able/available exception if you report it properly. Did you mark yourself as unable to work that week?
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Hailey O'Leary
•no i didnt know i was supposed to do that. nobody explains this stuff clearly
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Cedric Chung
Just went through this whole process. Got initially denied for 'voluntary quit' even though I was constructively discharged (forced to quit due to hostile work environment). The key is having documentation. Save emails, texts, witness statements, anything that proves your side of the story.
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Jabari-Jo
•Did you win your appeal? What kind of evidence was most important?
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Cedric Chung
•Yes, won after providing email chains showing the harassment and a statement from a coworker who witnessed it. The administrative law judge said documentation was crucial.
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Alberto Souchard
Another thing to watch out for - they can deny you for working part-time while claiming if you don't report it correctly. Even if you make very little, you have to report ALL earnings or they'll call it fraud.
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Jabari-Jo
•Good point. What if you do some freelance work occasionally? Does that need to be reported too?
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Alberto Souchard
•Yes, ANY income including freelance, gig work, cash jobs, everything. They can cross-reference with tax records.
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Katherine Shultz
The job search requirement is another big one. You need to keep a detailed log and they can audit it anytime. I know someone who got denied retroactively because their job search log wasn't detailed enough during a review.
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Micah Trail
•How detailed does it need to be? I just write down company names and dates.
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Katherine Shultz
•You need company name, contact person if possible, position applied for, method of application, and date. The more specific the better.
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Nia Watson
One more thought - if you do get denied, don't give up. I've seen people win appeals even in cases that seemed hopeless. The initial determination is often wrong because they don't have all the facts. That's another reason why being able to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD is so valuable for explaining your situation.
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Jabari-Jo
•That Claimyr thing you mentioned before - do they help with appeals too or just getting through for regular claims?
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Nia Watson
•They just help you connect with ESD agents by phone. But being able to talk to someone about your denial or appeal strategy could be really valuable.
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Talia Klein
Base period earnings is another denial reason people forget about. You need to have earned enough wages in your base year, and it has to be from covered employment. Some jobs don't pay into the unemployment system.
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Jabari-Jo
•How do you know if your previous job paid into unemployment? Is that something you can check?
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Talia Klein
•When you file your claim, Washington ESD will show your wage history from covered employers. If there are gaps or missing wages, that's when you know there might be an issue.
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Kristin Frank
Going back to your original situation - if the company said it was a layoff due to restructuring, they should have documentation of that decision. The attendance issues might be irrelevant if the layoff was legitimate. I'd file the claim and see what happens.
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Jabari-Jo
•You're right, I'm probably overthinking this. Do I need to mention the attendance issues when I file or just wait to see if they bring it up?
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Kristin Frank
•Be honest but don't volunteer information that wasn't the stated reason for separation. If they ask specifically about attendance, answer truthfully.
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Maxwell St. Laurent
Pro tip: if you get denied, read the determination letter VERY carefully. It will tell you exactly why you were denied and what evidence they used. This helps you know what to focus on in your appeal.
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Micah Trail
•This! I almost missed important details in my denial letter because it was full of legal jargon. Take time to understand every section.
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Marcus Marsh
Also remember that some denials are temporary vs permanent. Misconduct usually makes you ineligible for a certain number of weeks, while gross misconduct can be a permanent bar. Quitting without good cause is typically temporary too.
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Jabari-Jo
•How long is the typical penalty period for misconduct?
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Marcus Marsh
•Usually 7-10 weeks depending on the severity, but you still need to file weekly claims during the penalty period to eventually become eligible.
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PaulineW
Whatever you do, don't lie on your application. Washington ESD cross-checks everything and fraud charges are serious. Better to be upfront about potential issues and let them make the determination.
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Jabari-Jo
•Good advice. I'd rather be denied honestly than face fraud charges later.
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Annabel Kimball
The able and available requirement trips up a lot of people too. You have to be physically able to work, available for full-time work (unless you're approved for part-time), and actively seeking employment. Can't be on vacation, in school full-time, or have other commitments that prevent you from working.
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Alberto Souchard
•What about doctor appointments or short trips? Do those affect eligibility?
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Annabel Kimball
•Routine appointments are usually fine, but if you're unavailable for work for extended periods, you need to report that on your weekly claim.
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Nia Watson
Final thought - if you're really unsure about your eligibility, consider using that Claimyr service I mentioned to get through to Washington ESD and ask about your specific situation before filing. Sometimes it's better to get clarity upfront rather than deal with appeals later.
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Jabari-Jo
•That's probably smart. Better to know where I stand before starting the whole process. Thanks everyone for all the detailed info!
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Chris Elmeda
Don't forget about the work search requirement! You typically need to make 3 job contacts per week and keep detailed records. Failing to meet this requirement is an easy way to get benefits denied.
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Katherine Shultz
•And they can audit your job search activities at any time, so keep good records from day one.
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Jean Claude
One thing I learned the hard way - if you have any side income like rental property, investment income, or pension payments, you need to report those too. They can affect your benefit amount or eligibility.
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Jabari-Jo
•I have a small rental property. Does that automatically disqualify me or just reduce benefits?
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Jean Claude
•It might reduce your weekly benefit amount depending on how much income it generates, but it shouldn't disqualify you entirely. You'll need to report it though.
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Kristin Frank
Bottom line - most denials can be appealed successfully if you have the facts on your side. Don't let fear of denial stop you from filing if you think you might be eligible. The system is complicated but it's designed to help unemployed workers, even if it doesn't always feel that way.
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Jabari-Jo
•Thanks for the encouragement. I think I'm going to file the claim tomorrow and see what happens. All this information has been really helpful.
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Liam Murphy
Good luck with your claim filing! Based on everything discussed here, it sounds like you have a reasonable case since they stated it was a layoff due to restructuring. Just make sure to be completely honest about everything, keep detailed records of your job search activities from the start, and don't panic if you get an initial denial - the appeal process exists for a reason. The fact that you're being proactive and researching this beforehand shows you're taking it seriously, which will help you in the long run.
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Ethan Wilson
•This whole thread has been incredibly informative! As someone new to this process, I had no idea there were so many potential pitfalls. The documentation angle seems really important - sounds like keeping detailed records of everything (job searches, any communications with previous employer, income sources) is crucial whether you get approved initially or need to appeal later. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here.
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Zara Ahmed
I went through a similar situation last year where I had some performance issues but was ultimately laid off due to "budget cuts." What really helped me was gathering any documentation that supported the employer's stated reason for the layoff - things like company-wide emails about restructuring, news articles about the company's financial situation, or even just the official termination letter that cited layoff as the reason. Washington ESD will contact your former employer to verify their story, so if they consistently told you it was a layoff due to restructuring, that should work in your favor. The attendance issues might be a red herring if they weren't the official reason for your separation. Just be prepared to explain the timeline clearly if asked.
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Edison Estevez
•That's really smart advice about gathering documentation to support the employer's stated reason. I never thought about looking for company-wide communications or news articles that might back up their restructuring claim. Do you think it would be weird to reach out to former coworkers to see if they have any of those company emails about budget cuts or restructuring? I'm wondering if having multiple sources of documentation would make the case even stronger.
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