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What reasons can you be denied unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm thinking about filing for unemployment but want to understand all the ways Washington ESD can deny your claim before I waste time applying. My last job ended under complicated circumstances and I'm worried they might reject me. What are the main reasons people get denied unemployment benefits? I've heard about voluntary quit issues but what else should I watch out for?

There are several main categories where Washington ESD will deny benefits. Most common ones: 1) Quitting without good cause 2) Being fired for misconduct 3) Not being able and available for work 4) Refusing suitable work 5) Not meeting the earnings requirements during your base period. The earnings thing trips up a lot of people - you need to have earned at least $3,500 in your base period.

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What counts as misconduct exactly? I'm worried because I got written up a few times at my last job for being late.

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Minor attendance issues usually aren't considered misconduct unless it was excessive and you were warned. Misconduct has to be willful disregard of employer's interests - like theft, fighting, or repeatedly violating clear policies after warnings.

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Don't forget about the job search requirements! Even if you qualify initially, they can cut off your benefits if you don't do enough job searches or refuse a suitable job offer. You have to be actively looking and document it.

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How many job searches do you have to do per week in Washington?

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It's usually 3 job search activities per week, but it can vary based on your situation. Some people get different requirements.

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The main disqualification reasons in Washington are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause 2) Misconduct discharge 3) Not able/available to work 4) Refusing suitable work 5) Not actively seeking work. The job search requirement is pretty strict now - you need 3 job contacts per week minimum.

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What counts as 'misconduct' exactly? I was written up a few times for attendance but never fired for stealing or anything serious.

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Attendance issues can be misconduct if it shows a pattern of disregarding employer policies. But it depends on the circumstances - medical reasons might be different.

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I got denied initially because I couldn't get through to Washington ESD to verify my identity. Spent weeks calling and never got through to a human. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me connected to an agent. They have this video demo showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Turned out my SSN didn't match their records perfectly and that's why I was stuck in adjudication.

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Wait, they can deny you just for identity verification issues? That seems like something they should be able to fix easily.

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You'd think so, but it's incredibly common. Any mismatch in your personal info can trigger an identity verification hold, and then you're stuck waiting unless you can actually talk to someone to sort it out.

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They also deny people for not reporting work or earnings correctly on their weekly claims. Even small amounts of work can affect your benefits, and if you don't report it properly they consider it fraud.

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What if you do like odd jobs or gig work? How do you report that?

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Any work has to be reported, even if it's just a few hours. Report the gross earnings and hours worked during the week you did the work, not when you got paid.

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Don't forget about the earnings requirement! You need to have earned at least $1,050 in your base year and meet the wage requirements. I got denied initially because my earnings were too low in one quarter.

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How do they calculate the base year? Is it the last 4 quarters you worked?

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It's the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. So if you file in March 2025, your base year would be October 2023 through September 2024.

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I've been dealing with Washington ESD denials for weeks trying to get through to someone who can explain my disqualification. The phone system is absolutely impossible - I've called hundreds of times and either get busy signals or hung up on after waiting 2+ hours. Recently discovered claimyr.com which actually got me connected to a real person at Washington ESD in under 10 minutes. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing exactly how it works. Finally got my adjudication issue resolved!

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That sounds too good to be true. How much does something like that cost?

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I was skeptical too but it actually worked. Way better than wasting entire days trying to get through their phone system.

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I might try this. I've been trying to reach them about my voluntary quit determination for over a month.

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ugh the whole system is designed to deny people. I got denied because I was going to school part-time and they said I wasn't available for work. Had to appeal and it took months to get it sorted out.

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Being in school doesn't automatically disqualify you, but you have to prove you're still available for full-time work. It's one of those gray areas where they err on the side of denial.

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exactly! they make you prove everything and assume you're lying about being available

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Also watch out for the citizenship/work authorization requirement. You need to be legally authorized to work in the US. And if you're receiving certain other benefits like worker's comp, that can affect your UI eligibility too.

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What about if you're going to school? I heard that can disqualify you.

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Going to school can make you 'not available for work' unless you can prove you're available for suitable employment. It's tricky and depends on your class schedule.

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Another big one is the 'suitable work' issue. Once you've been unemployed for a certain period, they expect you to take jobs that might pay less or be slightly different from your previous work. If you turn down what they consider suitable work, you can lose benefits.

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How do they know if you turned down a job? Do employers report that?

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Sometimes employers do report it, especially if they're working with WorkSource. But you're also supposed to self-report any job offers you receive on your weekly claim.

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The base period earnings thing got me. I had been working but not enough hours to meet their minimum. They look at the first 4 of the last 5 quarters before you file, so timing matters a lot.

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So if I just started a new job a few months ago, I might not qualify?

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Depends on what you earned in the year before that. They don't count your most recent quarter usually, so new jobs often don't help you qualify.

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ugh the system is SO broken!! I got denied because they said I quit voluntarily but I was basically forced out due to harassment. Now I have to appeal and prove it was constructive dismissal. The whole process is designed to deny as many people as possible!!

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Constructive dismissal can qualify as involuntary separation if you can document the harassment. Make sure you have evidence for your appeal hearing.

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I have emails and witness statements. Just frustrated it takes months to get resolved while I can't pay rent.

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Another reason is if you're fired for a felony conviction related to your work. Or if you're incarcerated obviously. Also temporary disability can disqualify you if you can't work due to illness or injury.

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What if you're partially disabled but can still work some jobs?

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As long as you're able and available for work within your restrictions, you might still qualify. But you'd need to show you're actively searching within those limitations.

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The job search thing is brutal now. You have to log 3 contacts per week minimum and they're really strict about what counts. I got a warning letter because some of my job contacts didn't meet their criteria.

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What kind of job contacts don't count? I thought any application was fine.

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They want specific employer contact info, position applied for, method of contact. Just clicking 'apply' on Indeed without details won't cut it.

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You also need to keep detailed records in WorkSourceWA or their approved system. They can audit your job search activities at any time.

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Medical issues can also cause denials if they affect your ability to work. You have to be 'able and available' which means physically and mentally capable of working. But there are some exceptions for temporary disabilities.

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Yeah I know someone who got denied because they had surgery scheduled and couldn't work for a few weeks.

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That's tricky because you have to be available immediately when you file. But once you're approved and then have a temporary medical issue, there are provisions for that.

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Don't forget about the drug testing requirement! If you're fired for failing a drug test or refusing to take one, you'll be disqualified. Same if you're fired for being under the influence at work.

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Even for marijuana now that it's legal in Washington?

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Doesn't matter if it's legal recreationally. Employers can still have zero tolerance policies and fire you, which would disqualify you from UI.

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Immigration status can be an issue too. You have to be authorized to work in the US. Even legal immigrants sometimes have issues if their work authorization expires.

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I'm a citizen so that shouldn't affect me, but good to know.

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The frustrating thing is when you get denied and don't know why because you can't reach anyone at Washington ESD to explain it. That's when services like Claimyr become really valuable - they can actually get you through to talk to someone who can look at your specific case.

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how much does that cost though? seems like we shouldn't have to pay extra just to talk to the agency

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I get that frustration, but when you're facing weeks without income and can't get through any other way, it's worth it to actually get answers.

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Labor disputes are another one. If you're on strike or participating in a work stoppage, you can't collect unemployment during that time.

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What if the strike ends and you still don't have your job back?

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Once the labor dispute ends, you might be eligible if you meet the other requirements. But during the actual dispute, no benefits.

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What about if you were a contractor or self-employed? I heard that's harder to qualify for regular unemployment.

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Independent contractors usually don't qualify for regular UI benefits because no unemployment taxes were paid on their earnings. They might qualify for other programs though.

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That makes sense. So it's mainly for people who were employees, not contractors.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements varying by occupation too. Some professionals have different standards for what counts as suitable work compared to general laborers.

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How do they determine what's suitable for your occupation?

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They look at your previous wages, skills, and local job market. Generally you don't have to take a job paying significantly less than your previous work, at least not immediately.

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seasonal workers sometimes have issues too, especially if there's a pattern of the same employer laying off and rehiring the same people every year

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True, there are specific rules about seasonal employment and reasonable assurance of returning to work that can affect eligibility.

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The key thing is being honest on your application and weekly claims. Most denials I've seen happen because people try to hide something or don't understand the reporting requirements.

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That's really helpful. Sounds like as long as I'm truthful and meet the basic requirements, I should be okay.

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Exactly. And if you do get denied, remember you can appeal. A lot of initial denials get overturned on appeal if you have good documentation.

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anyone know about military spouse exceptions? my situation is complicated because we move a lot

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There are some protections for military spouses who have to quit due to PCS moves, but the rules are specific. You'd need to check with Washington ESD about your particular situation.

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The timing of when you file matters too. If you wait too long after losing your job, it can affect your claim. Generally you want to file as soon as possible after your last day of work.

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How long is too long to wait?

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There's no hard deadline, but there's a waiting week anyway, so delaying just costs you potential benefits. Plus your base period gets older the longer you wait.

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Just want to add that even if you think you might not qualify, it's usually worth applying anyway. The worst they can do is say no, and you might be wrong about your eligibility.

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That's a good point. I think I'm overthinking this. I'll just apply and see what happens.

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Smart approach. Make sure you have all your employment history and wage information ready when you apply though.

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And remember if you do run into issues where you can't get through to Washington ESD for help, there are options like Claimyr to actually reach an agent. Sometimes that personal contact makes all the difference in getting your claim approved.

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Thanks everyone, this has been really helpful. I feel much more prepared to apply now.

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good luck! the process isn't as scary as it seems once you get started

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I appreciate all the advice. Definitely feeling more confident about moving forward.

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Just make sure to keep good records of everything - your job search activities, any work you do, any correspondence with Washington ESD. Documentation is your friend if anything gets questioned later.

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Great tip. I'll start a folder for all my unemployment paperwork right away.

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Smart thinking. Organization saves you so much headache down the road.

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I should mention - when I used claimyr to finally get through to Washington ESD, the agent explained that a lot of denials happen because people don't understand the initial claim requirements. Like they think any reason for leaving qualifies, but 'good cause' has a very specific legal definition.

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What's considered 'good cause' for quitting then?

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Things like unsafe working conditions, significant change in job duties, domestic violence situations, certain medical issues. But you usually need documentation to prove it.

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The voluntary quit thing is so subjective though. I've seen people get approved for the same situation that got me denied. It really depends on which adjudicator reviews your case.

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That's why it's important to provide detailed documentation and appeal if you disagree. The initial determination isn't always final.

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Yeah I'm definitely appealing. Just wish the process wasn't so adversarial from the start.

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Immigration status issues can also cause denials. Even if you're authorized to work, there are specific requirements about how long you've been authorized and your visa status.

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This is getting complicated. Maybe I should just file and see what happens?

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Definitely file if you think you might qualify. The worst they can do is deny you, and then you can appeal if you have good cause.

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Also watch out if you receive severance pay or vacation payout. Depending on how it's structured, it might delay when your benefits start even if you're otherwise eligible.

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How does that work exactly?

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If the severance is considered 'wages in lieu of notice,' it can create a waiting period. But if it's just a goodwill payment, it might not affect your claim timing.

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just wanted to say thanks for all this info! I was worried about filing because I wasn't sure about my situation but this helps a lot

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Same here! Definitely learned some things I didn't know before.

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One more thing - if you move out of state after filing, you need to notify Washington ESD immediately. Some states have different requirements for continuing your claim, and failure to report can result in overpayment issues.

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Can you collect Washington unemployment if you move to another state?

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Yes, but you have to follow the job search requirements of whichever state you're in, and keep Washington ESD informed of your new address.

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The able and available requirement trips up a lot of people too. You have to be physically and mentally able to work, and available for full-time work during normal business hours unless you're specifically looking for part-time.

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What if you can only work certain shifts due to childcare?

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That can limit your availability and potentially affect your eligibility. You'd need to show you're actively seeking work within your available hours and that suitable work exists.

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Just to follow up on the claimyr thing - I ended up recommending it to two other people who were stuck in adjudication hell, and both got through to resolve their issues. One had been waiting 8 weeks for a callback. It's honestly been a lifesaver for navigating Washington ESD's impossible phone system.

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I'm definitely going to try this. Been trying to reach them about my standby status for weeks.

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Hope it helps! The video demo really shows you exactly what to expect before you try it.

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Update on my appeal - finally heard back and they reversed the denial! Turns out my situation did qualify as constructive dismissal. Don't give up if you get denied and you think it's wrong.

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That's great news! How long did the appeal process take?

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About 6 weeks from when I filed the appeal to getting the decision. Got backpay for the whole period too.

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This thread has been super helpful. I was worried about applying but now I understand the requirements better. Going to file tomorrow and see what happens.

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Good luck! Sounds like even if you get denied initially, there are options to appeal.

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Just make sure you file as soon as possible after becoming unemployed. There's no benefit to waiting, and you can't get backpay for weeks before you filed.

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Another denial reason people forget - if you don't register with WorkSourceWA within a reasonable time after filing. It's not optional, it's a requirement for maintaining eligibility.

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How long do you have to register?

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They usually give you instructions when you file, but generally within the first few weeks. Don't put it off because they can stop your benefits if you don't comply.

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Also be careful about how you describe your reason for leaving on the initial application. The way you word it can really impact whether they approve or deny you. I've seen people get denied because they said they "quit due to stress" instead of explaining the specific unsafe or hostile conditions that made it impossible to continue working. The initial application sets the tone for your entire claim, so be detailed and specific about circumstances rather than just giving a general reason.

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