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Saanvi Krishnaswami

What disqualifies you for Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I'm thinking about filing for unemployment but want to make sure I won't get automatically disqualified. What are the main reasons Washington ESD will deny your claim? I left my last job because my manager was making the workplace hostile, but I'm worried they might say I quit voluntarily. Also heard something about needing to work a certain amount before you can collect - is that true? Just want to know what I'm getting into before I start the process.

There are several main reasons Washington ESD will disqualify you for unemployment benefits. The big ones are: 1) Quitting without good cause 2) Being fired for misconduct 3) Not being able and available for work 4) Refusing suitable work 5) Not actively searching for jobs. For quitting, you need to prove you had 'good cause' which includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job terms.

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What counts as harassment though? My supervisor was constantly yelling at me and other employees in front of customers but I don't have it documented anywhere.

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Verbal abuse and creating a hostile work environment can qualify as good cause, but you'll need to provide as much detail as possible during your adjudication interview. Try to remember specific dates, witnesses, any complaints you made to HR, etc.

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The main disqualifications for Washington ESD unemployment are: 1) Quitting without good cause, 2) Being fired for misconduct, 3) Not meeting the work/wage requirements, 4) Not being able and available for work, and 5) Refusing suitable work offers. For hostile workplace, you might qualify under 'good cause' but you'll need to document everything.

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What counts as documentation for hostile workplace? I have some emails but not sure if that's enough.

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Emails are good! Also any HR complaints you filed, witness statements, medical records if stress affected your health, or any written warnings about the behavior you received.

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honestly the work requirements trip up a lot of people. You need to have worked in at least 2 quarters in your base period and earned a minimum amount. I think it's like $3,800 total but check the Washington ESD website for current numbers

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What's a base period? I worked for 8 months at my last job, does that count?

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Base period is the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file. So if you file in January 2025, your base period would be July 2023 through June 2024. Your 8 months should count if they fall in that timeframe.

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I had a similar situation last year and Washington ESD approved my claim even though I quit. The key is being able to explain why any reasonable person would have quit in your situation. Document everything you can remember and be prepared for an adjudication process that might take 4-6 weeks.

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That's encouraging! Did they make you do a phone interview or was it all through the online system?

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They scheduled a phone interview but I could never get through when they called. Ended up using a service called Claimyr that helped me connect with a Washington ESD adjudicator. Worth checking out at claimyr.com if you run into the same problem.

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Don't let fear stop you from filing! Even if you're not sure about your eligibility, you should still apply. Washington ESD will investigate and make the determination. The worst that happens is they deny your claim, but you won't owe money back unless you were dishonest on your application.

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That's good to know. I was really worried about getting in trouble or owing money if I applied and shouldn't have.

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Yeah definitely apply ASAP because there's a waiting week and benefits are backdated to when you first file, not when they approve you.

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I got disqualified initially because they said I wasn't actively looking for work. You have to prove you're able and available, which means ready to accept suitable work immediately. Can't be too picky about jobs either.

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How do you prove you're looking for work? Do they check up on you?

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Yeah you have to keep a job search log and do 3 job search activities per week. They can audit you and ask for proof anytime.

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The misconduct thing is tricky too. They don't just disqualify you for being fired - it has to be for deliberate misconduct or violating company policy after warnings. If you were laid off for performance issues or business reasons, that shouldn't disqualify you.

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What about if you were fired for attendance? I missed a lot of work last year because of medical issues but didn't have FMLA.

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Medical issues can be a valid reason if you can document them. Washington ESD looks at whether you had control over the situation that led to your termination.

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Had issues getting through to Washington ESD when I needed clarification on my disqualification. Kept getting hung up on after waiting forever. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that calls for you and gets you connected to an actual agent. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Made the whole process way less frustrating.

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Never heard of that before, does it actually work? The phone system is such a nightmare.

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Yeah it worked for me! They handle all the waiting and callbacks, then just connect you when an agent picks up. Saved me hours of redialing.

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ugh the system is so confusing and they make it sound like everyone is trying to cheat them. i got denied at first because they said i wasnt looking for work hard enough even though i was applying to jobs every day. had to appeal and it took forever

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The job search requirements are pretty specific - you need 3 work search activities per week and they have to be documented in your WorkSourceWA account. Just applying online sometimes isn't enough.

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yeah i learned that the hard way. wish they explained it better upfront instead of making people figure it out after getting denied

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Another thing that can disqualify you is not reporting work or income while collecting benefits. Even if you work just one day or do gig work, you have to report it on your weekly claim. They will find out eventually and make you pay it all back with penalties.

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What if you do like DoorDash or something while on unemployment? Do you have to report that too?

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Yes, all income including gig work has to be reported. But you can still collect partial benefits as long as your total earnings don't exceed your weekly benefit amount plus $5.

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I made this mistake with Uber driving and had to pay back $2,800. Don't mess around with not reporting income - it's not worth it.

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misconduct is a big one too. If you were fired for breaking company rules, being late all the time, or anything they consider willful misconduct, you're probably disqualified. BUT you can appeal if you think it wasn't really misconduct

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What if you were just bad at the job but tried your best? Is that misconduct?

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No, poor performance due to inability isn't misconduct. Misconduct has to be willful or deliberate violation of employer's interests. Being bad at your job usually isn't grounds for disqualification.

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exactly! they have to prove you did something on purpose that hurt the company

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Another thing people don't realize - if you're getting any kind of pension or retirement pay, that can reduce your weekly benefit amount. Also if you do any part-time work while collecting, you have to report every penny or risk an overpayment.

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wait so you can work part time and still get unemployment?

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Yes but your benefits get reduced. In Washington you can earn up to your weekly benefit amount before they start deducting dollar for dollar. Just have to report it correctly.

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The able and available requirement trips people up too. You have to be physically and mentally able to work, available for work during normal business hours, and not have restrictions that significantly limit your job opportunities. If you're going to school full-time or have childcare issues, that can be a problem.

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What about if you're taking care of elderly parents? Does that count as not being available?

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It depends on how much it limits your availability. If you can only work certain hours or days, Washington ESD might consider that a significant restriction. You'd need to show you're still actively seeking and available for suitable work.

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Here's something a lot of people don't know - you can be disqualified for refusing 'suitable work' even if the job pays less than your previous job. After you've been on unemployment for a certain period, Washington ESD lowers the bar for what's considered suitable work.

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How much less? Like if I was making $25/hour before, would I have to take a $15/hour job?

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Generally after 5 weeks you have to consider jobs at 75% of your previous wage, and after 13 weeks it drops to 70%. But there are other factors like your skills, commute distance, and working conditions.

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THE SYSTEM IS SO CONFUSING! I got disqualified because I didn't understand the job search requirements and didn't keep proper records. Had to appeal and it took months to get sorted out. Make sure you understand everything before you file!

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That sounds terrifying. How long does the appeal process take?

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Mine took 3 months but I've heard it can be longer. The backlog is pretty bad right now.

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I got disqualified because I moved to a different state and Washington ESD said I wasn't available for work in Washington anymore. Took months to get it sorted out and prove I was still looking for remote work with Washington companies.

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That's crazy! I thought you could collect unemployment from any state as long as you qualified initially.

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You can, but you have to maintain your job search in the state where you filed. Moving can complicate things, especially if you're not looking for work in Washington anymore.

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For your specific situation with the hostile workplace, Washington considers several factors 'good cause' for quitting: harassment, discrimination, unsafe working conditions, significant changes to job duties or pay, or domestic violence situations. You'll need to prove the employer knew about the problem and didn't fix it.

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I never officially complained to HR because I was scared of retaliation. Does that hurt my case?

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It doesn't automatically disqualify you, but it makes it harder to prove. If you can show the harassment was obvious or that you had legitimate fear of retaliation, that could help.

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also watch out for the waiting week thing. Even if you qualify, there's usually a one week waiting period before benefits start. And if you get disqualified but then win an appeal, you still have to serve that waiting week

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I thought they got rid of the waiting week during covid?

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They did temporarily but it's back now. One week waiting period for new claims.

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If anyone needs to talk to Washington ESD about disqualification issues, seriously check out Claimyr. I was going crazy trying to get through their phone system to understand why I got denied. The service basically calls for you and waits on hold, then connects you when they get an agent. Way better than spending your whole day redialing.

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How much does something like that cost? Sounds too good to be true

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I'm not sure about pricing but it was worth it for me. Check their site claimyr.com - they explain how it works better than I can.

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Just want to add that even if you think you might be disqualified, still file your claim! Washington ESD has to investigate and give you a chance to explain your situation. I thought I'd be denied because I was fired, but it turned out my employer couldn't prove misconduct and my claim was approved.

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This is so true. I was convinced I wouldn't qualify because I quit my job, but my claim went through without any issues.

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Thanks everyone, this is really helpful. I'm going to file my claim today and just be honest about everything.

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One more tip - if you do get disqualified, don't give up! You have the right to appeal within 30 days. I won my appeal even after being initially denied. The key is providing detailed information and any documentation you have.

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Appeals can take forever though. Mine took 3 months before I got a hearing scheduled.

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True, but if you win the appeal you get backpay for all those weeks. It's worth fighting if you believe you were wrongly denied.

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BTW if anyone is having trouble reaching Washington ESD for questions about their claim, I found this service called Claimyr that actually got me through to a real person. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me hours of trying to call.

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Is it expensive? I'm already broke from being unemployed.

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It's way cheaper than losing benefits because you can't get through to resolve issues. Check out claimyr.com for more info.

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I used Claimyr too when my claim got stuck in adjudication. Definitely helped me get answers faster than trying to call on my own.

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Bottom line - most disqualifications come down to: 1) How/why you left your job 2) Whether you're actively looking for work 3) Whether you're available to work 4) Whether you're honest on your application. If you can check those boxes, you should be fine.

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Perfect summary, thank you! This thread has been super helpful.

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Agreed, wish I had found info like this when I first filed. Would have saved me a lot of stress and confusion.

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Don't forget about drug testing! If you fail a drug test that was required for a job offer, that can disqualify you from benefits. Also if you were fired for being under the influence at work.

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What about marijuana in Washington? It's legal here now.

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Doesn't matter if it's legal, employers can still fire you for it and Washington ESD will usually uphold that as misconduct.

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my cousin got disqualified because she moved out of state and couldn't prove she was looking for work in Washington. You have to stay available for work in the state unless you get special permission

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What if you move for a spouse's job? That seems unfair.

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There are exceptions for military spouses and some other situations, but generally you need to be available for work in Washington to collect Washington ESD benefits.

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MAKE SURE YOU APPEAL IF YOU GET DISQUALIFIED! I almost didn't because I thought it was hopeless but I ended up winning. The employer didn't even show up to the hearing so I got my benefits retroactively.

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How do you know if it's worth appealing? I don't want to waste time if there's no chance.

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If you honestly believe the disqualification is wrong, it's usually worth appealing. The worst that happens is they uphold the decision. But many people win on appeal.

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Another one - if you're collecting benefits and then refuse a job offer that's considered 'suitable work', they'll cut off your benefits. Suitable work is basically anything in your field or that pays at least 80% of your previous wage after the first few weeks

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what if the job is like 2 hours away though? that can't be suitable

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Distance matters but I think the rule is like within reasonable commuting distance. Not sure exactly what they consider reasonable though.

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oh and don't lie on your application! They check everything with employers and if they catch you lying about why you left or how much you made, that's fraud and way worse than just being disqualified

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What happens if you make an honest mistake on the application?

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Honest mistakes can usually be corrected. It's intentional false statements that get you in trouble for fraud. Always better to be accurate from the start though.

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For anyone struggling to get through to Washington ESD about their disqualification status, I'll mention Claimyr one more time. I was bouncing between busy signals and disconnects for weeks trying to check on my appeal. This service handles all that frustration and just connects you when they reach an agent. Really wish I'd found it sooner.

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You've convinced me to at least check it out. The phone system is driving me insane.

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Same here, anything has to be better than the current system!

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To summarize the main disqualifying factors: voluntary quit without good cause, misconduct firing, insufficient work history, not able/available for work, refusing suitable work, fraud, and various income issues. But remember - most disqualifications can be appealed and many people win their appeals with proper documentation.

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This has been super helpful everyone! I think I have enough info to decide whether to file or not. Thanks for all the detailed responses.

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Good luck! Just remember to be completely honest on your application and keep detailed records of everything. Documentation is key if you need to appeal later.

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glad this thread helped! the whole unemployment system is so complicated but at least now you know what to watch out for. definitely file if you think you qualify - worst case they say no and you appeal

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Yeah I'm feeling more confident about it now. Going to gather my documentation first then file this week.

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