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Miguel Ortiz

What disqualifies you from unemployment in Washington - need to understand before I apply

I'm thinking about filing for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD but I want to make sure I won't get disqualified. I left my last job because my manager was creating a hostile work environment and making unreasonable demands. I didn't formally quit - I just stopped showing up after they refused to address the situation when I complained to HR. Will this disqualify me from getting unemployment? What other things can disqualify you from Washington ESD benefits? I really need to know before I waste time applying.

Job abandonment (not showing up without notice) is typically considered quitting without good cause, which can disqualify you from Washington ESD benefits. However, if you can prove the work environment was truly hostile and you had no other reasonable option, you might have a case for good cause. Other common disqualifications include: being fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not being able and available for work, or not meeting job search requirements.

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So even if my manager was making my life miserable, just not showing up could disqualify me? That's frustrating.

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You'll need documentation of the hostile environment - emails, witness statements, etc. Washington ESD will review all the facts during adjudication.

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The main disqualification reasons for Washington unemployment are: 1) Fired for misconduct 2) Quit without good cause 3) Refusing suitable work offers 4) Not actively seeking work 5) Not able/available for work 6) Earnings over weekly benefit amount. Your situation sounds like it could go either way depending on what documentation you have about the hostile environment.

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What counts as misconduct though? I was late a few times at my last job due to transportation issues.

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Minor attendance issues usually aren't misconduct unless it's a pattern of willful disregard for company policy. Washington ESD looks at whether it was deliberate and work-related.

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How much does that cost? I'm already strapped for cash which is why I need unemployment.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but honestly anything is better than trying to call Washington ESD directly. Those wait times are insane.

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wait so if you get fired you automatically can't get unemployment?? that doesn't seem right

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No, only if you're fired for misconduct. If you're laid off or fired for performance issues that aren't your fault, you can still get benefits.

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ok that makes more sense, thanks

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The job search requirement is a big one people forget about. In Washington you have to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep detailed records. If you don't meet this requirement they'll stop your benefits even if you were initially eligible.

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Do online applications count as job search contacts?

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Yes, online applications count but you need to document them properly with employer names, dates, and positions applied for.

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The WorkSourceWA website helps track this stuff automatically if you apply through their job board.

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I got disqualified initially because Washington ESD said I quit without good cause, but I appealed and won. The key was having documentation - I had emails showing my employer was violating safety protocols and refusing to fix known hazards. Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job terms, or discrimination.

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How long did the appeal process take? I'm worried about being without income for months.

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Mine took about 6 weeks total, but if you win the appeal you get back pay for the whole period. Start documenting everything now if you haven't already.

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Another thing that can disqualify you is if you're not a US citizen or don't have work authorization. Also if you're receiving certain other benefits like workers compensation you might not be eligible for unemployment at the same time.

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What about if you're going to school? Can you still get unemployment if you're taking classes?

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Depends on the program. Some training programs are approved by Washington ESD, others might make you ineligible because you're not available for full-time work.

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The system is so confusing! I got denied initially and spent WEEKS trying to get through to someone at Washington ESD to understand why. Finally used one of those callback services - I think it was Claimyr - and got connected to an actual person who explained that I hadn't reported some freelance income correctly. Simple fix once I could actually talk to someone.

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Freelance income can definitely trip you up. You have to report any earnings even if it's just a few dollars.

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Exactly! I had no idea that a $50 side gig needed to be reported. The agent helped me understand how to report it properly going forward.

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Prison time will definitely disqualify you lol. Also if you're on strike from your regular job you can't get unemployment benefits during the strike period.

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Never thought about the strike thing, that makes sense though.

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Medical issues can be tricky too. If you can't work due to illness or injury, you might not meet the 'able and available' requirement for unemployment. That's when you'd typically need to look at disability benefits instead.

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What if you can do some types of work but not others due to a medical condition?

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Washington ESD will look at whether you're available for suitable work given your limitations. It's case by case.

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Don't forget about the earnings disqualification. If you work part time while collecting unemployment, you can earn up to a certain amount without losing benefits, but if you earn too much in a week you'll be disqualified for that week.

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How much can you earn before it affects your benefits?

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It's complicated - generally you can earn up to your weekly benefit amount minus $5 before it starts reducing your benefits. Earn more than 1.5 times your weekly benefit and you get nothing that week.

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Age discrimination might be good cause for quitting but you'd need solid proof. Same with sexual harassment or other illegal treatment. Washington ESD takes these seriously but they need documentation, not just your word against theirs.

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I wish I had saved more of the emails from my manager. I only have a few that show the unreasonable demands.

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A few is better than none. Also consider if any coworkers witnessed the behavior and would be willing to provide statements.

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The whole system seems designed to deny people benefits. I got disqualified twice before I figured out how to navigate their requirements properly. Now I keep detailed records of everything just in case.

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What kind of records do you keep?

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Screenshots of job applications, dates and details of all job search activities, any communication with potential employers, work search log updated weekly.

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Military folks have some special considerations too. If you're discharged under dishonorable conditions that might affect eligibility, but most types of military discharge won't disqualify you from unemployment benefits.

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Good to know, I'm getting out of the service next year and wasn't sure how that would work.

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Just apply and see what happens! Even if you think you might be disqualified, let Washington ESD make that determination. Sometimes situations that seem like clear disqualifications actually qualify under certain circumstances.

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That's probably good advice. I've been overthinking this for weeks when I could have just filed and found out.

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Agreed! The worst they can do is say no, and then you can appeal if you disagree with their decision.

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One more thing - if you receive severance pay, that might affect when your unemployment benefits can start. It doesn't disqualify you permanently but might delay when payments begin.

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How does severance affect the timing?

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Washington ESD treats severance as wages for the period it's intended to cover, so you might have to wait until that period ends before benefits start.

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The Claimyr thing mentioned earlier actually worked great for me too. I was stuck in adjudication hell for my disqualification issue and couldn't get through to anyone. Used their service and got connected to an agent who walked me through exactly what documentation I needed to provide. Saved me probably months of frustration.

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Is it legit though? Seems too good to be true that you can just skip the wait times.

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Totally legit. They don't do anything you couldn't do yourself, they just handle the calling process so you don't have to sit on hold for hours or get disconnected.

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