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What disqualifies you from unemployment in Washington - need to understand before filing

I'm thinking about filing for unemployment but want to make sure I won't get disqualified. I left my last job because my manager was creating a hostile work environment, but I'm worried Washington ESD might consider that quitting without good cause. What are the main things that disqualify you from unemployment benefits? I don't want to waste time filing if I'm just going to get denied.

The main disqualifiers in Washington are: quitting without good cause, getting fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not being able and available for work, and not meeting job search requirements. Hostile work environment can actually be good cause if you can document it properly.

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How do I document a hostile work environment? I have some emails but not sure if that's enough proof for Washington ESD.

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Save all emails, text messages, witness statements, and any HR complaints you filed. Washington ESD will review everything during adjudication.

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Xan Dae

i got disqualified once for not doing enough job searches, they're really strict about that now

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How many job searches do you have to do per week in Washington?

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Xan Dae

3 per week minimum, and they check WorkSource too

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Good to know there's an option if I can't get through to them directly.

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THE WASHINGTON ESD SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO DENY PEOPLE! They'll find any excuse to disqualify you even if you have a legitimate claim. I got denied for 'voluntary quit' when I was actually laid off!

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That sounds like you should have appealed the decision. Sometimes there are coding errors in the system.

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I did appeal and won, but it took 3 months to get my benefits. The whole system is broken.

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Here's the complete list of Washington ESD disqualifications: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause 2) Discharge for misconduct 3) Refusing suitable work without good cause 4) Not able and available for work 5) Failing to register with WorkSource 6) Not conducting adequate job search 7) Making false statements 8) Receiving disqualifying income. Your situation with hostile work environment could qualify as good cause if properly documented.

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This is really helpful! What counts as 'suitable work' that I can't refuse?

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Generally work that pays at least 80% of your previous wage or minimum wage (whichever is higher), matches your skills, and is within reasonable commuting distance.

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Wait, I thought it was 75% of previous wage?

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It varies by how long you've been unemployed. Starts at 80% and decreases over time.

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Xan Dae

also if you make too much money while on unemployment they'll disqualify you, happened to my friend

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How much can you earn while still getting benefits?

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You can earn up to your weekly benefit amount minus $5. Anything over that reduces your benefits dollar for dollar.

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I'm dealing with a disqualification right now for 'misconduct' but all I did was be late a few times because of childcare issues. Trying to get it overturned but can't reach anyone at Washington ESD.

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Same situation I had with getting through to them. Claimyr really helped me connect with an agent to explain my side of the story.

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I might have to try that, this is so frustrating

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Attendance issues can sometimes be overturned if you had valid reasons like childcare problems

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Does anyone know if getting fired for performance issues counts as misconduct? I wasn't doing anything wrong just couldn't keep up with the workload

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Poor performance isn't usually misconduct unless it's willful. If you were trying your best but the job wasn't a good fit, that's different than deliberately doing bad work.

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That makes me feel better, I was definitely trying but the expectations were unrealistic

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watch out for the able and available requirement too, they're picky about that

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What does able and available actually mean?

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You have to be physically and mentally capable of working, available for work during normal business hours, and actively seeking employment.

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I got disqualified because I didn't know about the WorkSource registration requirement. Nobody told me I had to do that within a certain timeframe.

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You're supposed to register within your first week of filing for benefits. It's in the handbook they send but a lot of people miss it.

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Yeah I definitely didn't read that carefully enough. Lesson learned.

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The false statement thing is serious too. Even small mistakes can get you disqualified if they think you did it on purpose.

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What kind of false statements are they looking for?

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Anything on your weekly claims - work hours, earnings, job search activities. They cross-reference everything.

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honestly the whole system seems designed to trip people up, so many rules and requirements

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That's why it's good to talk to an actual person at Washington ESD if you have questions, but good luck getting through

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Which is exactly why I ended up using Claimyr - saved me hours of calling and actually got to speak with someone who could help

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What about if you're in school? I heard that can disqualify you too.

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Full-time school can make you unavailable for work, but there are exceptions for certain training programs approved by Washington ESD.

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Good to know, I was thinking about taking some classes while unemployed

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My cousin got disqualified for not responding to a letter from Washington ESD fast enough. They only give you like 10 days to respond.

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That's scary, what if you're out of town or something?

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Doesn't matter, they expect you to check your mail and respond quickly. Really unfair if you ask me.

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The job search requirement is no joke either. You have to keep detailed records and they actually verify them sometimes.

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How do they verify job searches?

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They can contact employers you claim to have applied with. I know someone who got caught lying about applications.

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Ev Luca

thanks for all this info everyone, sounds like I need to be really careful about documenting everything if I file

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Exactly right. Keep records of everything - job applications, work search activities, any communications with Washington ESD.

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Yeah this thread has been super helpful. I feel more confident about filing now that I know what to watch out for.

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One more thing - if you do get disqualified, don't give up. The appeal process exists for a reason and a lot of initial decisions get overturned.

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How long do you have to file an appeal?

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30 days from the date on the determination letter. Don't wait because they're strict about deadlines.

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And if you need help understanding the determination or appeal process, definitely worth getting in touch with an ESD agent through whatever means necessary.

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