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What reasons can you be denied unemployment benefits in Washington state?

I'm thinking about filing for unemployment but I want to make sure I won't get denied. I left my last job because my supervisor was creating a hostile work environment and making unreasonable demands. I'm worried Washington ESD might say I quit voluntarily and deny my claim. What are the main reasons people get denied UI benefits? I've heard there are specific rules about quitting vs being fired but I don't know all the details.

The most common reasons Washington ESD denies claims are: 1) Misconduct (stealing, violence, repeated policy violations), 2) Voluntary quit without good cause, 3) Not meeting work/wage requirements, 4) Not actively seeking work, 5) Refusing suitable work offers. Your situation might qualify as 'good cause' if you can document the hostile work environment.

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What kind of documentation would I need for hostile work environment? I have some emails but not sure if that's enough.

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Emails, witness statements, HR complaints, medical records if stress-related, any written warnings to your supervisor. The more documentation the better.

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I got denied last year for 'misconduct' even though I was just late a few times due to childcare issues. Had to appeal and it took forever. Make sure you understand what they consider misconduct because it's broader than you think.

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Did you win your appeal? I'm dealing with something similar right now.

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Yeah eventually but it was a nightmare trying to get through to Washington ESD to explain my side. Took months.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! Even if you get approved initially, they can cut you off if you're not doing enough job search activities. You need to make 3 job contacts per week and keep detailed records.

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What counts as a job contact? Is applying online enough or do you need to do more?

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Online applications count but they want variety - networking events, job fairs, informational interviews. Check WorkSourceWA for approved activities.

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They also deny people for not being able and available to work. If you have transportation issues, health problems, or can't work certain hours, that can disqualify you.

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What if you can only work part-time due to disability? Does that automatically disqualify you?

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Not necessarily, but you have to be available for the type of work you normally do. It gets complicated with part-time restrictions.

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wage requirements trip up a lot of people too you need to have earned at least $5,265 in your base year and worked in at least 2 quarters if you just started working or had a gap in employment you might not qualify

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How do they calculate the base year? Is it the last 12 months?

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its the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file kind of confusing but theres a chart on the washington esd website

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I've seen people get denied for lying on their application or not reporting work/income properly. Even small mistakes can look like fraud to them. Double-check everything before submitting.

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This is so important! My friend forgot to report some freelance work and they made her pay back everything plus penalties.

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Exactly. They take overpayments very seriously. Better to over-report than under-report.

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Refusing job offers is another big one. If they determine an offer was 'suitable' and you turned it down, you can be disqualified. The definition of suitable work changes over time too.

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How do they know if you refused a job offer? Do employers report that?

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Sometimes employers report it, or it comes up during eligibility reviews. You're supposed to report job offers on your weekly claims.

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The whole system is designed to deny people IMO. They make the rules so complicated and change them all the time. Half the time their own staff don't know the current policies.

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I feel this. Spent weeks trying to get a straight answer about my situation and got different information from different agents.

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That's why services like Claimyr are helpful - they know which agents actually understand the system and can get you to the right person.

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If you're on standby status (temporarily laid off), there are different rules. You can't look for other work actively or you might lose your benefits when your employer calls you back.

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Wait, that doesn't sound right. Don't you still have to do job searches even on standby?

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No, standby is different from regular UI. You're waiting to be called back to your specific job. The rules are totally different.

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Drug test failures can disqualify you too, especially if it's related to why you lost your job. Washington state has specific rules about this.

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Is marijuana still an issue with the state laws changing?

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Depends on your employer's policy and whether it contributed to job loss. Still murky legally.

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Don't forget about the identity verification issues. If you can't prove your identity through their ID.me system, your claim gets stuck in limbo indefinitely.

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Oh god, the ID.me nightmare. Took me three weeks to get verified because their facial recognition kept failing.

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Yeah, and good luck getting help with that. The regular Washington ESD staff can't do anything about ID.me problems.

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For your specific situation with hostile work environment, document everything and be prepared to explain why a reasonable person would have quit. Washington ESD looks at whether you tried to resolve the situation first.

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I did try talking to HR but they basically ignored my complaints. Would that help my case?

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Absolutely. Keep records of when you contacted HR, what you told them, and their response (or lack thereof). That shows you tried internal solutions first.

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Military service can affect eligibility too. If you're getting military retirement pay or certain VA benefits, it might reduce your UI benefits or disqualify you entirely.

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Really? I thought military service helped with unemployment benefits, not hurt.

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It can help in some ways but there are offset rules for certain types of military pay. It's complicated.

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School attendance is another disqualifier. If you're enrolled in school full-time, you're generally not considered available for work unless it's approved training.

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What about online classes or part-time enrollment? Does that matter?

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Part-time might be okay depending on your schedule, but you have to prove you're still available for full-time work during normal business hours.

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Seasonal workers often get denied because they're expected to be unemployed during certain periods. Washington ESD has specific rules about reasonable assurance of returning to work.

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That seems unfair. If you're laid off, you should get benefits regardless of whether it's seasonal.

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I agree it's unfair, but that's how the system works. Teachers and other school employees face this issue every summer.

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Immigration status can be a factor too. You need work authorization and proper documentation. Even legal immigrants can run into issues if their paperwork isn't current.

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Do they verify this automatically or only if there's a question about your eligibility?

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They cross-reference with federal databases, so it's usually caught automatically during the application process.

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That's really helpful to know. I'm definitely going to check that out before I file my claim.

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Bottom line - Washington ESD has gotten stricter over the years. What used to be approved might get denied now. Document everything, be completely honest on your application, and don't assume anything about your eligibility.

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This thread has been really eye-opening. I had no idea there were so many ways to get denied.

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Yeah, the system is designed to be restrictive. But if you have a legitimate claim and proper documentation, you should be fine. Just be prepared for the process to take time.

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For anyone reading this who gets denied - don't give up! The appeal process exists for a reason and many denials get overturned. You just need to present your case properly with the right documentation.

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Thanks everyone for all this information. I feel much more prepared now to file my claim and handle whatever comes up.

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Good luck! Remember that knowledge is power when dealing with the unemployment system. The more you understand their rules, the better your chances of success.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is interstate claims - if you worked in multiple states or moved from another state, there can be complications with which state handles your claim and how they calculate your benefits. Washington has agreements with other states but the process can get confusing and cause delays or denials if not handled properly. Also, if you're receiving pension payments from a previous employer, that can reduce your weekly benefit amount even if you qualify for UI.

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That's a great point about interstate claims! I actually had this issue when I moved from Oregon to Washington mid-year. The wage records took forever to transfer between states and I had to deal with both unemployment offices to get it sorted out. They initially denied my claim because they couldn't verify my out-of-state wages, even though I had all my pay stubs. Definitely something to be aware of if you've worked in multiple states recently.

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