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Washington ESD what disqualifies you from unemployment - need to know all the reasons

I'm worried about getting disqualified from unemployment benefits and want to make sure I understand all the reasons Washington ESD can deny or stop your claim. I've heard there are lots of ways you can mess up your unemployment but I can't find a complete list anywhere. What are the main things that will disqualify you from getting UI benefits in Washington? I don't want to accidentally do something that kills my claim.

The main disqualifications from Washington ESD are: 1) Quitting without good cause, 2) Getting fired for misconduct, 3) Not being able and available for work, 4) Refusing suitable work, 5) Not actively looking for work, 6) Earning too much in part-time work, 7) Not reporting earnings honestly. There are also temporary disqualifications for things like going to school full-time or being out of state without approval.

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What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My boss was pretty terrible but I'm not sure if that's good enough reason for Washington ESD.

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Good cause includes things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties or pay, health issues that prevent you from working. But you need documentation to prove it.

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Don't forget about the earnings disqualification - if you make more than your weekly benefit amount minus $5, you won't get any UI payment that week. And if you work more than full-time hours (even at minimum wage), you're automatically disqualified for that week.

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So if my weekly benefit is $400 and I make $300 in a week, I still get something?

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Yes, you'd get $105 that week ($400 minus $300 plus the $5 disregard). But you have to report ALL earnings, even cash jobs.

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I got disqualified for 'not being available for work' because I told them I could only work certain days due to childcare. Apparently you have to be available for full-time work Monday through Friday or they consider you not available.

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That seems harsh! Can you appeal that kind of decision?

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Yeah I appealed and won, but it took 2 months. I had to prove I was looking for jobs that matched my availability and that there were suitable jobs available during my available hours.

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Is that legit? I've never heard of paying to call Washington ESD.

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It's totally legit - they just help you get through the phone system. Way better than spending hours getting busy signals or getting hung up on.

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DONT FORGET ABOUT THE JOB SEARCH REQUIREMENTS! You have to make at least 5 job search contacts per week and keep a log. If you can't prove you're actively looking for work, they'll disqualify you. And the job searches have to be for suitable work - you can't just apply for jobs you're overqualified for to meet the requirement.

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What counts as a job search contact? Does applying online count or do you have to talk to someone?

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Online applications count, but you need to keep detailed records. Date, company name, position, how you applied. Washington ESD can audit your job search log at any time.

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Another big one is fraud - if Washington ESD thinks you lied about anything on your application or weekly claims, they'll disqualify you AND make you pay back everything plus penalties. This includes not reporting work, lying about why you were laid off, or claiming benefits while out of state.

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How do they find out if you worked somewhere and didn't report it?

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They cross-reference with employer wage reports and tax records. Even cash jobs can show up if the employer reports them. Not worth the risk.

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i got disqualified for refusing a job offer that paid way less than my old job. apparently after a few weeks on unemployment you have to take jobs that pay like 75% of what you used to make. didn't know that rule existed until it was too late

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How long do you have before they lower the standards for what counts as suitable work?

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Generally it's after about 13 weeks, but it depends on your situation. The longer you're on unemployment, the lower your standards have to be for 'suitable work.

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Going to school can also disqualify you unless you get approval first. If you're in school full-time, Washington ESD considers you not available for work. There are some exceptions for approved training programs, but you have to get permission before you start.

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What about part-time classes? Like if I wanted to take a certification course?

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Part-time is usually okay as long as it doesn't interfere with your job search and you're still available for work. But check with Washington ESD first to be safe.

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Medical issues can be tricky too. If you have a health condition that prevents you from working, you might not qualify for regular unemployment. You might need to apply for disability instead. But if you can work with accommodations, you can still get UI as long as you're actively looking for work you can do.

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What if you have a temporary injury? Do you have to stop claiming until you're better?

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Depends on how long it lasts and whether you can still do some types of work. You might be able to get benefits if you're looking for jobs you can do with your limitation.

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Criminal background can also affect your eligibility for certain types of jobs, which might impact your job search requirements. Washington ESD expects you to look for work you can realistically get, but you still have to prove you're making good faith efforts.

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That makes sense. Do they take that into account when reviewing your job search log?

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They should, but you need to document it. Keep records of why certain jobs aren't suitable for you due to background check requirements.

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Here's one people don't know about - if you're getting certain types of pension payments, it can reduce or eliminate your unemployment benefits. Social Security usually doesn't affect it, but other pensions might.

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Even if you earned the pension from a completely different job?

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Yeah, it's based on the total amount you're receiving, not where it came from. You have to report all income sources.

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TRAVEL CAN DISQUALIFY YOU TOO! If you leave the state without telling Washington ESD, they can stop your benefits. You're supposed to be available for work in Washington, so if you're on vacation or visiting family out of state, you can't claim those weeks.

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What if you're looking for work in another state? Can you still get benefits?

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You can sometimes get approval to look for work out of state, but you have to get permission from Washington ESD first. Don't just assume it's okay.

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drug testing can be an issue too depending on the job. if you fail a drug test for a job offer, that might count as refusing suitable work and disqualify you. washington is pretty chill about marijuana but other drugs are still a problem

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Do they drug test for unemployment benefits themselves?

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nah washington doesn't drug test for UI benefits, but if you refuse a job because you can't pass their drug test, that's on you

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Union issues can also cause problems. If you're in a union and there's work available through the union that you refuse, that might disqualify you. Union members have special rules about suitable work and job search requirements.

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What if the union work is really far away or temporary?

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Distance and duration can be factors in determining if work is suitable, but union members are expected to take work that's offered through their union hall in most cases.

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If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to clarify any of these rules or fight a disqualification, definitely try Claimyr. I used it twice when I was dealing with a misconduct disqualification and it saved me so much time and frustration. Way easier than trying to get through on your own.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already broke from being unemployed.

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It's worth it if you need to talk to someone urgently. Check their website for current info, but think about how much you're losing by not getting benefits while you wait.

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Self-employment income can also be tricky. If you do any freelance or gig work, you have to report it even if you haven't been paid yet. The week you do the work counts, not when you get paid. And if you make too much, you'll lose benefits for that week.

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What about things like selling stuff on Facebook Marketplace? Does that count as self-employment?

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If you're doing it regularly as a business, yes. Occasional sales of personal items usually don't count, but if you're buying and reselling for profit, that's self-employment income.

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One more thing - if you're not a US citizen or don't have work authorization, you won't qualify for unemployment benefits. You have to be legally authorized to work in the US to receive UI benefits in Washington.

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What about people with work visas or green cards?

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Work visas and green cards are fine as long as they're valid and allow you to work. It's people without any legal status who can't get benefits.

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Another thing that can mess you up is not responding to requests for information. If Washington ESD asks for documents or wants you to do a phone interview and you don't respond, they'll automatically disqualify you. Always respond to everything they send you, even if you think it's wrong.

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How long do you usually have to respond to their requests?

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Usually 10 days from when they mail it, but it can vary. Don't wait - respond as soon as you get anything from them.

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thanks everyone this is really helpful. i had no idea there were so many ways to get disqualified. makes me nervous about filing weekly claims now lol

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Don't be nervous, just be honest and follow the rules. Most people don't have problems if they report everything accurately and meet the requirements.

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Yeah this thread has been super educational. I feel way more confident about avoiding problems now.

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The key thing to remember is that most disqualifications can be appealed if you disagree. Don't just accept it if you think Washington ESD made a mistake. You have the right to a hearing and can present evidence to support your case.

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How long do you have to file an appeal?

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Usually 30 days from the date of the disqualification notice. Don't wait - appeals take time to process and you want to get it started as soon as possible.

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And if you need help with the appeal process, that's another good reason to use Claimyr to talk to an actual person at Washington ESD instead of trying to figure it out on your own.

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