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What disqualifies you for unemployment in Washington state?

I'm trying to understand all the ways you can get disqualified from unemployment benefits in Washington. I know getting fired for misconduct is one, but what are all the other reasons Washington ESD will deny your claim? I want to make sure I don't accidentally mess up my eligibility since I'm planning to file soon. Are there specific things during the weekly claims process that can disqualify you too?

The main disqualifications in Washington are: misconduct (like theft, violence, harassment), voluntarily quitting without good cause, refusing suitable work offers, not being able and available to work, and not actively searching for jobs. If you were fired for performance issues that's usually okay, but if you were fired for violating company policy that could be misconduct.

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What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My supervisor was making my life hell but I don't have documentation of harassment.

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Good cause includes unsafe working conditions, discrimination, significant changes to job duties or pay, domestic violence situations. Workplace harassment can qualify but you'd need to show you tried to resolve it first or that it was severe.

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The main disqualifications in Washington are: quitting without good cause, getting fired for misconduct, not being able and available to work, refusing suitable work offers, and not meeting the work search requirements. If you quit, you need to prove it was for 'good cause' which has a specific legal definition.

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What exactly counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My situation was pretty bad but I don't know if it meets their standards.

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Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties/pay, harassment, or health issues. 'Unreasonable boss' alone usually isn't enough unless it rises to harassment or creates unsafe conditions.

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The main disqualifications in Washington are: getting fired for misconduct, quitting without good cause, refusing suitable work, or not being able and available for work. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless it was willful or gross negligence.

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That's reassuring. They never wrote me up or anything, just said my numbers weren't meeting expectations. Thanks for the info.

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What counts as 'suitable work' though? Do they expect you to take any job even if it pays way less?

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The main disqualification reasons in Washington are: 1) Fired for misconduct (like theft, attendance issues, insubordination), 2) Quit without good cause, 3) Not able and available to work, 4) Not actively seeking work, 5) Refusing suitable work without good cause, 6) Being unavailable due to vacation/travel, 7) Earnings from work that exceed your weekly benefit amount. There are also temporary disqualifications for things like attending school full-time without approval.

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What exactly counts as 'good cause' for quitting? I've heard that term thrown around but never got a clear definition.

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Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, domestic violence situations, or health issues that prevent you from doing the work. Washington ESD evaluates each case individually.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! You have to apply for 3 jobs per week and keep a log, or you'll get disqualified.

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I got disqualified last year for 'misconduct' even though I was just late a few times. They said it was willful disregard of company policy. It's really strict - even minor stuff can disqualify you if your employer contests your claim.

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That sucks! Did you appeal it? I've heard you can fight misconduct disqualifications if you have documentation.

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Yeah I tried but couldn't get through to anyone at Washington ESD to explain my side. The phone system is impossible.

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You should definitely file. Washington ESD looks at the specific circumstances. If you were fired for performance vs misconduct, that's a big difference. Misconduct has to be willful - like stealing, fighting, or deliberately breaking rules. Poor performance alone usually doesn't disqualify you.

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This is so confusing though. My friend got denied because they said she was fired for attendance issues. How is that different from performance?

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Attendance can be tricky - if it was due to illness or family issues that's different than just not showing up without reason. She should have appealed that decision.

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I got disqualified last year for not reporting some part-time work I did. Even though it was just a few hours, Washington ESD said I committed fraud by not declaring it on my weekly claim. They made me pay back everything plus penalties. Always report ALL income, even if it's just $20.

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This is so important! I almost made the same mistake. Any work or income has to be reported, even volunteer work that pays a stipend.

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Wow, I didn't realize they were that strict about small amounts. Good to know before I file.

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Don't let fear stop you from applying! Washington ESD will investigate and make a determination. Even if you're initially denied, you can appeal. I got disqualified at first for 'voluntary quit' but won my appeal because I could prove constructive dismissal.

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How long did your appeal take? I'm dealing with a misconduct disqualification right now and it's been 3 weeks since my hearing.

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Mine took about 6 weeks total from filing the appeal to getting the decision. The hearing was actually pretty straightforward once I had my documentation organized.

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Other disqualifiers include not earning enough wages in your base period, being an independent contractor instead of employee, or having immigration status issues. Also if you're getting certain other benefits like workers comp you might not qualify for UI.

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How much do you need to earn to qualify? I worked part-time for most of last year.

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You need at least $3,850 in your base period and wages in at least two quarters. Part-time work can still qualify if you meet the minimum requirements.

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I was trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my disqualification and couldn't get through on the phone. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you get connected to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Was able to get clarification on my case within a day.

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Never heard of that before. Did it actually work or is it just another scam?

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It's legit. I was skeptical too but they actually got me through to Washington ESD when I couldn't after trying for 2 weeks straight. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.

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Interesting, I've been trying to reach them about my adjudication for over a month with no luck.

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Had similar situation last year - got terminated for 'not meeting goals' but Washington ESD approved my claim after investigating. The key is that they have to prove you did something intentionally wrong. I had trouble reaching them to check my status though, kept getting busy signals for weeks.

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ugh the phone situation is horrible! I've been trying to call for days about my adjudication.

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Other disqualifications include: not registering with WorkSource, not doing required job searches, turning down work offers, or having unreported income while claiming benefits.

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How many job searches do you have to do each week? I keep seeing different numbers.

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It's 3 job search activities per week currently, and they have to be documented in your WorkSource account.

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don't forget about the waiting week thing too - you won't get paid for your first week even if approved

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Wait what? I thought they got rid of the waiting week during covid?

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The waiting week is back now that the emergency programs ended. It's unpaid but you still have to file that first claim.

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here's what will disqualify you for sure: being fired for stealing, showing up drunk/high, fighting with coworkers or customers, not showing up to work repeatedly without calling in, refusing to do your job duties. basically anything that shows you weren't acting in good faith as an employee

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What about being late too many times? I had attendance issues at my last job but it was because of my car breaking down.

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attendance issues can be tricky - if you had legitimate reasons and tried to work with your employer it might not be misconduct. but if you just kept showing up late without good reason that could disqualify you

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If you quit your job you're usually disqualified UNLESS you had good cause. Good cause includes harassment, unsafe working conditions, significant changes to job duties, or personal/family emergencies.

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What about if your hours got cut way down? My cousin's hours went from 40 to 15 per week.

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That might qualify for partial unemployment benefits actually. She should file and see - reduction in hours can sometimes qualify.

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Good to know since you mentioned safety violations - that was part of why I spoke up at my job.

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I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks to check on a potential disqualification issue but their phone lines are impossible. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to someone there? I keep getting disconnected after waiting hours.

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I was having the same problem until someone told me about Claimyr. It's a service that calls Washington ESD for you and gets you connected to an actual agent. Check out claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me so much frustration.

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Try calling right at 8am when they open. That's the only time I've ever gotten through on my own.

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they dont check social media but they will investigate if your employer reports something suspicious. i posted about a vacation while on unemployment and my ex-employer saw it and reported me, caused a whole mess

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Oh wow that's scary. What happened? Did you get in trouble?

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had to prove i was still looking for work during the trip and that it didnt interfere with job search. was a pain but they didnt disqualify me

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The Washington ESD website has a whole section on eligibility requirements but it's kinda confusing. Basically you need to have worked enough hours and earned enough wages in your base period too.

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How do they calculate the base period? I've been working for 8 months at my current job.

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It's usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. So if you file now it would be quarters from last year mostly.

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The job search requirement is a big one people overlook! You have to be actively looking for work and keep a log of your search activities. If you're not genuinely available for work or turn down suitable job offers, that'll disqualify you fast.

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How many jobs do you have to apply for each week? I keep hearing different numbers.

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It's 3 job search activities per week in Washington. Can be applications, interviews, networking events, job fairs, etc. You have to log them in your WorkSourceWA account.

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Don't forget you also have to register with WorkSource within a certain timeframe or they'll stop your benefits.

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I got disqualified because I quit to take care of my sick parent and Washington ESD said it wasn't 'good cause'. Had to appeal and provide medical documentation. Took 2 months but I eventually won. The system is frustrating but don't give up if you think you have a valid claim.

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That's terrible! Family emergencies should definitely count as good cause.

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That's what I thought too. Turns out you need to exhaust other options first like FMLA or requesting time off. They want to see you tried to keep your job.

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Don't forget about the ongoing requirements that can disqualify you even after you're approved. You have to be able and available to work each week, actively search for jobs (3 job contacts per week minimum), and accept suitable work offers. Missing any of these can stop your benefits.

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The job search thing is so annoying. What counts as a 'job contact'? Just applying online?

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Job applications, contacting employers directly, networking events, job fairs, interviews - there's a list on the Washington ESD website. You have to keep a log with specific details about each contact.

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I keep a spreadsheet with company names, dates, contact method, and position applied for. Makes it easier when they audit your job search log.

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Another thing - if you're on strike or involved in a labor dispute, you can't collect unemployment in Washington. Also, if you're receiving other benefits like workers comp or disability, it might affect your eligibility.

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What about if you're doing gig work while collecting? Is there an income limit?

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You can work part-time and still collect partial benefits, but you have to report all earnings. They'll reduce your weekly benefit amount based on what you earn.

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Another big one is if you're not a US citizen or don't have work authorization. Washington ESD will disqualify you if you can't legally work in the US. Also, if you're receiving certain other benefits like workers comp, that can affect your UI eligibility.

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What about students? I heard being in school can disqualify you?

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It depends. If you're in school full-time, you usually need special approval from Washington ESD to remain eligible. Part-time students are generally okay as long as school doesn't interfere with work availability.

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Drug test failures can also disqualify you if it was the reason for termination. And anything involving theft, violence, or illegal activities is automatic misconduct.

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What about if you test positive for marijuana? It's legal in Washington now.

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Still depends on company policy and job requirements. If it's against company rules or affects safety-sensitive work, it could still be misconduct.

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If you're worried about disqualification, definitely document everything about why you quit. Keep emails, texts, witness statements, anything that shows the working conditions. You'll need proof if your employer contests your claim.

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I wish I had saved more stuff. I have a few emails but not much documentation of the verbal stuff that happened.

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Even write down what you remember with dates and times. It's better than nothing and can help your case.

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THE WASHINGTON ESD SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN! I've been fighting a disqualification for MONTHS and can't get anyone on the phone. They claim I committed fraud but won't tell me what I supposedly did wrong. How is this legal???

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Have you tried filing a complaint with the governor's office? Sometimes that gets their attention.

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I hadn't thought of that. At this point I'm willing to try anything!

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Like I mentioned earlier, Claimyr really helped me get through to someone when I was stuck. Might be worth trying since you've been going in circles for months.

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Don't forget about the waiting week! Even if you qualify, there's typically a one-week waiting period before benefits start. And if you have any disqualifying weeks due to earnings or other issues, those don't count toward the waiting week.

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Is the waiting week still a thing? I thought they got rid of it during COVID.

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They suspended it temporarily but it's back now. You still have to serve the one week waiting period for regular unemployment claims.

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don't forget about the able and available requirement!! if you cant work due to injury or illness you'll get disqualified. also if you're caring for family members and cant work your normal hours

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True, but there are some exceptions for family care under certain circumstances. The Family Medical Leave Act can sometimes protect your eligibility.

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I got temporarily disqualified when I had to care for my sick mom. Took forever to get it sorted out with Washington ESD.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS! They'll find any excuse to deny you benefits while your employer gets to collect unemployment insurance tax breaks. I've seen people get disqualified for the stupidest reasons.

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I mean it's frustrating but there are legitimate reasons for some of the rules. They have to prevent fraud somehow.

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FRAUD? Most people are just trying to survive between jobs! The real fraud is how employers contest every claim to keep their tax rates low.

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I got disqualified initially because they said I wasn't actively looking for work, but I was! Just wasn't documenting it properly in WorkSource. Had to appeal and provide all my job search records.

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How long did the appeal take? I'm scared to mess up the job search requirements.

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About 6 weeks total. Make sure you keep detailed records of every application, every contact with employers, even networking events count as job search activities.

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Don't let them intimidate you into not filing. Even if you're not sure about eligibility, file anyway. Washington ESD will investigate and make the determination. Worst case they say no and you appeal.

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That's what I'm thinking. Better to try and get denied than not try at all.

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Exactly! And if you do get denied, don't give up. The appeal process exists for a reason and lots of initial denials get overturned.

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You can also get disqualified for not reporting income correctly on your weekly claims. Even small amounts from gig work or odd jobs need to be reported. They cross-reference with tax records so they'll catch it eventually.

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How much can you earn while on unemployment before it affects your benefits?

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In Washington you can earn up to your weekly benefit amount minus $5 without reduction. Anything over that reduces your benefits dollar for dollar until you earn 1.5 times your weekly benefit amount, then you get nothing that week.

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School employees have special rules too. If you work for a school district and are between terms, you might be disqualified during certain periods. Also, if you're an athlete or work in professional sports, there are different eligibility rules.

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I work as a substitute teacher. Does that affect my eligibility during summer break?

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Substitute teachers can be tricky. It depends on whether you have reasonable assurance of returning to work. You should definitely apply and let Washington ESD make the determination.

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If you're on standby status (like seasonal workers expecting callback), different rules apply. You don't have to do the job search but you still need to be available when your employer calls you back. Refusing to return when called can disqualify you.

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I didn't know about standby status. How do you get approved for that?

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Your employer has to provide specific information to Washington ESD about the expected callback date. It's not automatic - you have to meet certain criteria.

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Important: if you move out of Washington state while collecting benefits, you need to notify Washington ESD immediately. You might still be eligible but there are additional requirements for out-of-state claimants.

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What if you move to another state temporarily to take care of family? Does that automatically disqualify you?

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Not automatically, but you have to be available for work in Washington or meet specific criteria for being unavailable. It gets complicated so definitely contact Washington ESD if you're planning to move.

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BIGGEST mistake people make is not appealing disqualifications! You have 30 days to appeal any Washington ESD decision. I got wrongfully disqualified for 'misconduc