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Ellie Kim

What disqualifies you from unemployment in Washington? Need to understand the rules

I'm trying to figure out what can actually disqualify someone from getting unemployment benefits in Washington state. I know there are different reasons but I'm not clear on all of them. Can someone break down the main things that would make Washington ESD deny or stop your claim? I want to make sure I don't accidentally mess up my eligibility.

The main disqualifications in Washington fall into a few categories. Voluntary quit without good cause is the big one - if you just decided to leave your job without a qualifying reason. Being fired for misconduct is another major one. There's also not being able and available for work, or refusing suitable work offers.

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What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? I've heard mixed things about this.

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Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, domestic violence situations, or health issues that prevent you from doing the work.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! If you're not actively looking for work and documenting it properly, that can disqualify you too. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week unless you're on standby.

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How strict are they about the job search documentation? Do they actually check?

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They can audit your job search activities at any time. You need to keep detailed records of what you did, when, and with which employers. Better to be thorough than sorry.

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Being disqualified doesn't necessarily mean you're out forever either. You can appeal most disqualifications within 30 days of the determination. I successfully appealed a misconduct disqualification last year after providing more documentation about the situation.

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How long does the appeal process usually take?

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Mine took about 6 weeks from filing to getting the decision. They schedule a phone hearing where you can present your side of the story.

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ugh the washington esd system is so confusing about all this stuff. i got disqualified once because they said i wasnt available for work but i was?? took forever to sort out

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The 'able and available' requirement can be tricky. You have to be physically and mentally capable of working, and available for work during normal business hours. Sometimes people get caught up on this if they have scheduling restrictions.

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yeah that was exactly it. i had to prove i could work full time hours and wasnt just looking for part time

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Here's something people don't always know - you can be disqualified for not reporting work or income correctly on your weekly claims. Even small amounts of work need to be reported, and if Washington ESD finds out later through wage records, they'll hit you with an overpayment AND potentially disqualify you for fraud.

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How do they find out about unreported work?

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They cross-reference your weekly claims with quarterly wage reports from employers. It might not show up immediately, but it will eventually. Always better to report everything upfront.

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This happened to my cousin. He didn't report some cash work and got hit with a huge overpayment demand years later.

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Another one that trips people up is the 'suitable work' requirement. Once you've been on unemployment for a certain period, you may be required to accept work that pays less than your previous job. The standards for what's considered suitable work change over time.

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How much less can they expect you to accept?

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Generally after 13 weeks you may need to accept work paying 75% of your previous wage, and after 26 weeks it drops to 70%. But there are exceptions based on your skills and local job market.

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Drug test failures can also disqualify you, especially if you were fired for failing a workplace drug test. Washington has specific rules about this that vary depending on the circumstances.

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What if someone has a medical marijuana card?

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That's a complex area. Having a medical card doesn't automatically protect you from disqualification if your employer had a legitimate drug-free workplace policy. It really depends on the specific circumstances.

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Just want to add that if you get disqualified, don't panic. Most disqualifications can be resolved or appealed if you have the right information. The key is understanding WHY you were disqualified and addressing that specific issue.

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Is there a way to get help understanding the disqualification reasons?

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That's exactly when I used Claimyr again. They helped me get through to an agent who could explain exactly what the issue was with my claim and what steps I needed to take to resolve it.

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Don't forget about the waiting week! While not exactly a disqualification, you won't get paid for your first week of unemployment. Some people think they're disqualified when they just haven't waited long enough.

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Is the waiting week still required? I thought they got rid of that during COVID.

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The waiting week requirement was reinstated in Washington. You'll serve one waiting week per benefit year before you start receiving payments.

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One thing that's really important - if you're not sure about something, it's better to ask Washington ESD than to guess. Making assumptions about eligibility requirements is how people end up with disqualifications they could have avoided.

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yeah but good luck getting through to them on the phone lol

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That's why services like Claimyr are helpful. Sometimes you really do need to talk to a human to get clarification on your specific situation.

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I work in HR and see unemployment claims from the employer side. The most common disqualifications I see are voluntary quit without good cause and misconduct. But what employees think is misconduct and what actually qualifies for UI disqualification can be very different.

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Can you give an example of something that might seem like misconduct but wouldn't disqualify someone?

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Poor performance or honest mistakes usually don't rise to the level of misconduct for UI purposes. Misconduct has to be willful or deliberate violation of company policies or standards.

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also if youre a student you might have different rules about eligibility. i got confused about this when i was going to school part time while unemployed

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Student eligibility can be complex. Generally you need to be available for full-time work, which can conflict with class schedules. There are some exceptions for approved training programs.

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yeah they made me prove that my classes wouldnt interfere with working full time

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Another disqualification reason that's becoming more common is not participating in required reemployment services. If Washington ESD refers you to WorkSource services and you don't follow through, that can disqualify you.

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How do you know if you're required to do WorkSource activities?

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They'll send you a notice if you're selected. It's usually based on your occupation or how long you've been collecting benefits. Don't ignore these notices!

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The income limits can also trip people up. If you work part-time while collecting UI, you need to report all earnings. Earn too much in a week and you might not get any UI benefits for that week.

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What's the income limit for part-time work?

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It's not a simple limit. They deduct your earnings from your weekly benefit amount, but you can earn up to your weekly benefit amount plus $5 before you lose all benefits for that week.

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Something else to watch out for - if you move out of state, you need to notify Washington ESD. Some people think they're automatically disqualified if they move, but you can often continue collecting benefits as long as you're still looking for work.

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Do you have to look for work in Washington or can you look in your new state?

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You can look for work in your new state, but you need to register with that state's workforce agency and follow their job search requirements.

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Been through this whole process twice now. The key thing to remember is that most disqualifications aren't permanent. Even if you get disqualified, there are usually ways to regain eligibility or appeal the decision. Don't give up if you think the disqualification was wrong.

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Thanks for all this info everyone. This has been really helpful in understanding what to watch out for.

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No problem! The unemployment system can be confusing but understanding the rules helps you avoid problems.

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Just to summarize the main disqualification reasons: voluntary quit without good cause, misconduct, not able/available for work, refusing suitable work, not meeting job search requirements, not reporting income correctly, and not participating in required services. Most can be appealed or resolved with proper documentation.

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This is a great summary. I'm going to save this thread for reference.

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And remember, if you need to talk to Washington ESD about any of these issues, don't waste hours trying to get through on your own. There are services that can help you actually reach a human when you need one.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that if you receive severance pay, it can affect your unemployment benefits timing. Washington ESD considers severance as wages for the period it covers, which means your benefits might be delayed until after the severance period ends. I learned this the hard way when I got laid off with a severance package and couldn't figure out why my claim was delayed. It's not exactly a disqualification, but it can definitely impact when you start receiving benefits.

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