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Ava Kim

What disqualifies you for unemployment in Washington - need clarification

I'm trying to understand what can actually disqualify you from getting unemployment benefits in Washington. I've heard different things from people and want to make sure I understand the rules before I potentially mess up my claim. Can someone break down the main reasons Washington ESD would deny or disqualify a claim? I'm particularly worried about job search requirements and if there are any income limits while collecting.

The main disqualifications in Washington include: quitting without good cause, being fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not meeting job search requirements (you need to make at least 3 job contacts per week), and not being able and available for work. There's also earning too much money while on benefits - you can work part-time but if you earn more than your weekly benefit amount plus $5, you'll lose benefits for that week.

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Ava Kim

Thanks! What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? I left my last job because my hours got cut to almost nothing.

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Substantial reduction in hours can qualify as good cause in Washington. You'd need to document the hour reduction and show you tried to resolve it with your employer first.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! You have to log at least 3 job search activities each week and keep records. I know someone who got disqualified because they didn't keep proper documentation of their job searches.

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What exactly counts as a job search activity? Does applying online count the same as going to an interview?

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Online applications count, but you need variety. Washington ESD wants to see applications, networking, career fairs, interviews, etc. Can't just be 3 online apps every week.

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I had issues reaching Washington ESD when I got a confusing disqualification notice last year. Kept getting busy signals and getting hung up on. Finally used Claimyr to get through to an actual agent who explained everything. They have this service at claimyr.com that calls for you and gets you connected to ESD staff. There's even a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Made all the difference in getting my situation sorted out.

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Ava Kim

That sounds helpful! How quickly were you able to get through to someone?

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Usually same day or next day. Much better than spending hours redialing the regular ESD number.

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Income limits are tricky too. If you work while collecting benefits, Washington has this formula where you can earn up to your weekly benefit amount plus $5 before they start reducing your benefits. Earn more than that and you might lose the whole week of benefits.

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Wait, so if my weekly benefit is $400, I can earn up to $405 without any reduction?

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Exactly. But if you earn $406 or more, you get zero benefits for that week. It's an all-or-nothing cliff.

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That seems harsh. Other states have gradual reductions instead of losing everything.

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Misconduct disqualifications are the worst because they can affect future claims too. Washington ESD considers things like attendance issues, policy violations, criminal behavior at work, or insubordination as misconduct. The key is whether it was willful and connected to work.

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Ava Kim

How do they determine if something was willful? What if you were just having personal problems?

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They look at whether you knew the rule and chose to break it anyway. Personal problems might explain behavior but don't excuse violating workplace policies.

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Don't forget about the base period earnings requirement. You need to have earned at least $7,203 in your base period to qualify for benefits at all. If you haven't worked enough or earned enough, you won't even get approved initially.

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What's the base period exactly? Is it the last year?

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It's usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. So if you file in March 2025, your base period would be October 2023 through September 2024.

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The 'able and available' requirement trips up a lot of people. You have to be physically and mentally able to work and available for work during normal business hours. If you're taking care of a sick family member or don't have childcare, that could disqualify you.

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Drake

That's tough for parents. What if you can only work certain hours because of school schedules?

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You can have some restrictions, but they can't be so limiting that they prevent you from accepting suitable work. School schedules are usually okay if you're available during typical work hours.

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I had to appeal this exact issue. Washington ESD initially said my childcare limitations made me unavailable for work.

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Refusing suitable work is another big one. If ESD or WorkSource refers you to a job and you turn it down without good cause, you can get disqualified. 'Suitable' depends on your skills, experience, and how long you've been unemployed.

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Ava Kim

How do they define suitable work? Does it have to be in the same field?

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Initially, suitable work is in your usual occupation at prevailing wages. After time passes, the definition gets broader and wages can be lower.

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I got disqualified once for not reporting earnings correctly. Even small amounts from odd jobs need to be reported on your weekly claim. Washington ESD will find out eventually through wage records and hit you with an overpayment.

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How strict are they about small amounts? What if you earned like $20 from selling something?

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Technically all earnings should be reported, but they're mainly concerned with work earnings. One-time sales probably won't matter unless it becomes a pattern.

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The job search documentation is crucial. You need to keep detailed records of every contact - company name, date, method of contact, position applied for. I use a spreadsheet to track everything because ESD can audit your job search activities at any time.

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Do they actually audit people often? Seems like they'd be overwhelmed with all the claims.

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It's random but it happens. Better to keep good records than get caught unprepared and lose benefits.

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Criminal convictions related to your work can also disqualify you. If you were fired because you were arrested for something that happened at work, that's usually misconduct. But arrests for things unrelated to work shouldn't affect your claim.

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What if you're in jail? Can you still collect benefits?

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No, you can't collect benefits while incarcerated because you're not available for work. Benefits would stop until you're released.

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Training program requirements can be confusing too. If you're in an approved training program, you might not have to do job searches, but if it's not approved by Washington ESD, you could get disqualified for not being available for work.

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How do you get training approved? Do you apply before starting?

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Yes, you need approval before starting. Contact WorkSource or ESD to discuss training options. They have specific criteria for what programs qualify.

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Moving out of state can affect your claim too. You need to notify Washington ESD if you move, and you still have to meet all the same requirements including job search activities in your new location.

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Can you transfer your claim to another state?

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No, Washington pays the benefits so you keep filing with Washington ESD even if you move. But you have to follow their rules no matter where you live.

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I've seen people get disqualified for not showing up to required appointments at WorkSource or ESD offices. If they schedule something and you don't show up or reschedule properly, that can stop your benefits.

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Do they give you much notice for these appointments?

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Usually yes, but it's your responsibility to keep your contact information updated so you get the notices.

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Self-employment while collecting benefits is really tricky. Even if you're not making money yet, if ESD thinks you're working full-time on your own business, they might say you're not available for work and disqualify you.

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What if you're just doing freelance work occasionally?

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Occasional freelance should be fine as long as you report the earnings and it doesn't interfere with your availability for full-time work.

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Immigration status can affect eligibility too. You need to be authorized to work in the US. If your work authorization expires while you're collecting benefits, that could disqualify you.

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Do they check work authorization regularly?

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They can verify it through various databases. It's important to keep your work authorization current and notify ESD of any changes.

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Fraud is the big one that can really hurt you long-term. If Washington ESD determines you intentionally provided false information or concealed facts to get benefits, you'll not only have to pay back the money but also pay penalties and possibly face criminal charges.

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What's the difference between fraud and just making an honest mistake?

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Intent matters. Honest mistakes usually just result in overpayments you have to repay. Fraud involves deliberately lying or hiding information.

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I made an error on my weekly claim once and panicked. Called using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and got connected to an ESD agent who helped me correct it properly.

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Labor disputes can also affect your claim. If you're out of work because of a strike at your workplace, you might not be eligible for benefits, especially if you're participating in the strike.

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What if the strike ends and there's no work to go back to?

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Once the labor dispute ends, you might become eligible for benefits if you're still unemployed through no fault of your own.

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Seasonal work patterns can be complicated too. If you work in an industry with predictable off-seasons and you have reasonable assurance of returning to work, you might not qualify during the off-season.

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Does this apply to school employees during summer break?

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Yes, school employees often can't collect benefits during scheduled breaks if they have reasonable assurance of returning to work.

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The bottom line is that Washington ESD has pretty strict rules, but they're usually willing to work with you if you're honest and proactive about communication. The worst thing you can do is ignore problems or try to hide information.

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Ava Kim

This has been really helpful. I feel much more confident about avoiding disqualification issues now.

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Definitely keep detailed records of everything - job searches, earnings, any communications with ESD. Documentation is your best protection.

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And if you do get a disqualification notice, don't panic. You have appeal rights. Sometimes it's just a misunderstanding that can be cleared up.

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