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What can disqualify you from unemployment benefits in Washington ESD?

I'm worried about potentially getting disqualified from my unemployment claim and want to make sure I'm doing everything right. My friend mentioned that there are specific things that can automatically disqualify you from receiving benefits through Washington ESD, but she wasn't sure what they all were. I've been filing my weekly claims on time and doing my job searches, but I want to know what other situations could cause problems. Has anyone dealt with disqualification issues or know what the main reasons are that Washington ESD will cut off your benefits?

The main disqualification reasons in Washington are: 1) Quitting without good cause 2) Being fired for misconduct 3) Refusing suitable work 4) Not actively seeking work 5) Not being able and available for work 6) Fraud or providing false information. There's also issues if you don't register with WorkSourceWA or fail to participate in required reemployment services.

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Thanks for the list! What exactly counts as 'misconduct' for getting fired? I'm worried because I had some attendance issues at my last job but it was due to childcare problems.

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Misconduct usually means willful or deliberate violations of company policy, not isolated incidents or issues beyond your control like childcare. Attendance problems due to circumstances outside your control typically don't qualify as misconduct.

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The main disqualifiers for Washington ESD unemployment are: quitting without good cause, getting fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not actively searching for jobs, not being able and available to work, and fraud. There's also income limits - if you earn too much in a week it can affect your benefits.

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What exactly counts as 'misconduct'? I'm worried because I had some attendance issues at my last job due to childcare problems.

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Childcare issues usually don't count as misconduct if you made efforts to resolve them. Misconduct is more like stealing, violence, willful violation of company policy, or repeated insubordination.

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Don't forget about the job search requirements! You need to make at least 3 job contacts per week and keep detailed records. If Washington ESD audits your job search log and finds it insufficient, they can disqualify you retroactively.

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Wait, is it 3 contacts or 3 applications? I've been doing 3 applications but not necessarily making contact with employers.

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It's 3 job search activities which can include applications, contacting employers, networking events, job fairs, etc. Check your WorkSourceWA account for the specific requirements.

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How much does that cost? I'm already struggling financially.

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I think it's reasonable considering how much time it saves. Better than losing benefits because you couldn't get answers to important questions.

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You can also get disqualified for not reporting income correctly. Even small amounts of work need to be reported on your weekly claim, including gig work, cash jobs, or part-time employment.

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What if I do some freelance work occasionally? Do I need to report that too?

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Yes, all income must be reported regardless of the source. Washington ESD has ways of finding unreported income and the penalties are severe.

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This is so stressful! One mistake and they can take away your benefits retroactively?

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! You have to make at least 3 job search activities per week and keep detailed records. I almost got disqualified because I wasn't logging my searches properly in my WorkSourceWA account.

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How detailed do the job search logs need to be? I've been keeping track but wondering if I'm doing enough.

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You need employer name, position applied for, date, and method of contact. Keep it all documented because they can audit your search activities anytime.

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Being unavailable for work is another big one. If you go on vacation, get sick, or have other commitments that prevent you from accepting work, you need to report that on your weekly claim.

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What about doctor appointments? I have regular medical treatments.

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Medical appointments are usually fine as long as they don't prevent you from accepting full-time work. It's about your overall availability.

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Also be careful about any income you earn while collecting. If you work part-time or do gig work, you MUST report it on your weekly claim even if it's just a few dollars. Not reporting income is considered fraud and will disqualify you immediately.

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What about cash jobs? Like if someone pays me $50 to help them move, do I really need to report that?

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YES, you need to report ALL income, even cash payments. Washington ESD is very strict about this and they have ways of finding unreported income.

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That's good to know. I haven't had any side income but I was wondering about this exact scenario.

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I got temporarily disqualified last year because I turned down a job offer. They said it was 'suitable work' even though the pay was way less than my previous job. Had to go through an appeal process to get it overturned.

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How do they determine if a job is 'suitable'? I'm worried about having to take anything that's offered.

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They look at your skills, experience, prior wages, and how long you've been unemployed. Early in your claim, you can be more selective, but after several months they expect you to consider lower-paying positions.

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The system is so complicated and they make it really hard to get clarification when you have questions. I spent weeks trying to reach someone at Washington ESD about my specific situation.

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier. Sometimes you need to talk to an actual person to get clarity on these rules.

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I've never heard of that service. Does it actually work?

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Worked for me. Got through to an ESD agent within a few hours instead of spending days calling.

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The able and available requirement trips up a lot of people too. If you're sick, injured, or have other issues that prevent you from working, you can't collect benefits for those weeks. Same if you go on vacation - you have to report that you weren't available for work.

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What if you have a doctor's appointment or something minor like that?

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Minor appointments are usually fine as long as you're generally available for work that week. It's more about extended periods where you genuinely can't work.

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Oh man the calling situation with Washington ESD is impossible when you need to resolve any of these issues. I spent weeks trying to get through about a potential disqualification notice. Finally found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com that actually got me connected to an agent in like 20 minutes. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

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How does that work exactly? I've been dreading having to call them if I run into problems.

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They basically handle the calling and waiting for you, then connect you when an agent is available. Way better than sitting on hold for hours or getting hung up on constantly.

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That sounds too good to be true honestly. How much does it cost?

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One thing people don't realize is that student status can also affect eligibility. If you're enrolled in school more than half-time, you might not be eligible for benefits unless you meet specific exceptions.

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I was thinking about taking some online classes while I'm looking for work. Should I avoid that?

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Part-time enrollment is usually okay, but check with Washington ESD first. Sometimes job training programs are actually encouraged and won't affect your benefits.

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Refusing suitable work is tricky because 'suitable' changes over time. After a certain period, you might have to accept jobs that pay less than your previous job or are in different fields.

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How do they define 'suitable'? I have a college degree but there aren't many jobs in my field right now.

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Initially it's work similar to your previous job in pay and duties. But after several weeks, the definition expands to include other types of work you're capable of doing.

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I'm so paranoid about getting disqualified. Every week when I file my claim I double and triple check everything because I can't afford to lose these benefits.

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I feel the same way! The anxiety is real.

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Just be honest and accurate in your reporting. Washington ESD would rather you ask questions than make assumptions.

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drug testing can disqualify you too if you fail one that's required for a job referral from WorkSourceWA. Not common but it happens.

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Do they randomly drug test unemployment recipients or just for specific job referrals?

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just for job referrals usually, but if you refuse to take a required test for a job they refer you to, that can be considered refusing suitable work

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Don't forget about training programs. If you're offered approved training through WorkSourceWA and refuse it, that could affect your benefits depending on your situation.

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Are you required to accept all training offers?

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Not all, but refusing without good reason could be seen as not making adequate effort to return to work.

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Immigration status matters too. You have to be authorized to work in the US to receive unemployment benefits. This includes having valid work authorization if you're not a citizen.

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That makes sense. Do they verify work authorization when you first apply?

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Yes, it's part of the initial eligibility determination process. They'll ask for documentation if there are any questions.

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The whole system feels like a minefield. One wrong step and boom - disqualified and possibly having to pay back benefits.

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Exactly! And good luck trying to appeal if you disagree with their decision.

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Appeals are actually successful fairly often if you have documentation. Don't give up if you think a disqualification was wrong.

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Moving out of state can also complicate things. You need to notify Washington ESD and may need to transfer your claim or meet different requirements.

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I might need to relocate for family reasons. How does that work?

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You can usually continue your Washington claim even if you move, but you need to follow the proper procedures and notify ESD immediately.

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Another big one is if you move out of state. You can still collect Washington benefits if you move, but you have to notify them and follow the interstate claim procedures. Some people get disqualified because they moved and didn't report it properly.

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Good to know! I'm not planning to move but my partner might get a job offer in another state.

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If you do move, contact Washington ESD immediately to set up the interstate process. Don't just assume you can keep filing the same way.

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Self-employment can be tricky too. If you start your own business or do freelance work, you need to report it even if you're not making much money yet. The fact that you're working for yourself can affect your 'able and available' status.

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What if it's just a small side business that barely makes any money?

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Still needs to be reported. Washington ESD will evaluate whether the time you're spending on it interferes with your availability for other employment.

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PENSION INCOME! This one got me. If you're receiving pension payments from a previous employer, it can reduce or eliminate your weekly benefit amount. They don't always catch it right away but when they do, you might owe money back.

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How do they find out about pension income if you don't report it?

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They have access to various databases and do cross-checks. Better to report everything upfront than deal with overpayment issues later.

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Identity verification issues can also hold up or disqualify claims. Make sure all your information is accurate and up to date.

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I had to verify my identity three times! So frustrating.

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It's a pain but necessary to prevent fraud. Better to deal with it early than have your claim frozen later.

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Criminal background can affect eligibility in some cases, especially if it's job-related or affects your ability to work in your field.

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That seems unfair. Don't people with records need support to get back on their feet?

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It depends on the specific situation and type of conviction. Each case is evaluated individually.

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Just went through a disqualification appeal myself. The key is to respond quickly if you get any notices from Washington ESD. You usually only have 30 days to appeal a disqualification decision, and missing that deadline means you're stuck with their decision.

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How long does the appeal process take? I'm worried about being without benefits during that time.

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Mine took about 6 weeks for the hearing, then another 2 weeks for the decision. You can sometimes get benefits while the appeal is pending depending on the type of disqualification.

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The Claimyr thing actually works btw. Used it last month when I couldn't get through about my job search audit. Saved me probably 10 hours of trying to call on my own.

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That's reassuring to hear from someone who actually used it. I might keep that in mind if I run into issues.

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Same here, used it twice now. Worth it just for the peace of mind of knowing you can actually reach someone when you need to.

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School attendance can also be an issue. If you're in school full-time, you might not be considered available for work.

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What about part-time evening classes?

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Part-time classes that don't interfere with your availability for work are usually okay. It's about whether school prevents you from accepting a job.

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Don't forget about the overpayment trap. If Washington ESD determines you received benefits you weren't entitled to for ANY reason, they'll want that money back plus penalties. This can happen even if the mistake was theirs initially.

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Can you set up payment plans for overpayments or do they expect it all at once?

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They do offer payment plans in most cases, but you need to contact them to set it up. Don't just ignore overpayment notices or they can garnish future benefits or tax refunds.

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For anyone still struggling to get through to Washington ESD for clarification on these rules, seriously consider using Claimyr. I know I mentioned it before, but it's been a game changer for getting actual answers instead of guessing.

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Thanks for the recommendation. I might try it if I can't get through on my own.

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I tried Claimyr last week and finally got my adjudication questions answered. Worth every penny.

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Bottom line: be honest, keep detailed records, meet all requirements, and don't hesitate to ask questions when you're unsure. It's better to be overcautious than risk disqualification.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful information. I feel much more informed about what to watch out for.

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This thread should be pinned! So much useful information in one place.

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One last thing - keep copies of everything! Job applications, correspondence with employers, any communication with Washington ESD. Documentation is your best friend if issues arise.

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Great point. I'll start keeping better records of my job search activities.

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Screenshots, emails, everything. You never know when you'll need to prove something.

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The key is staying proactive and informed. Don't wait until there's a problem to understand the rules.

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Absolutely. This discussion has been incredibly helpful for understanding what I need to do to stay compliant.

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Agreed! Much better to prevent problems than try to fix them after the fact.

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Military discharge status can affect eligibility too. If you were dishonorably discharged, that could impact your ability to receive benefits, though other types of military discharge are usually fine.

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I'm not military but good to know for anyone who is reading this.

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Yeah, it's pretty specific to military folks but worth mentioning since the rules are different from regular employment separations.

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Labor disputes can disqualify you too. If you're out of work due to a strike or lockout at your workplace, you might not be eligible for benefits, especially if you're participating in the labor dispute.

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What if there's a strike at your workplace but you're not part of the union?

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Non-union workers might still be eligible in some cases, but it depends on the specific circumstances. Washington ESD evaluates these situations case by case.

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The key thing is just to be completely honest on all your weekly claims and report any changes immediately. Most disqualifications happen because people either don't understand the rules or try to hide something. When in doubt, report it and let them decide.

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That's probably the safest approach. Better to over-report than under-report and risk problems later.

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Exactly. Washington ESD would rather you ask questions upfront than discover issues during an audit or investigation.

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Also remember that even if you get disqualified, it might not be permanent. Some disqualifications are just for a certain number of weeks, others require you to work and earn a certain amount before you can requalify. Read the notice carefully to understand what you need to do.

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Thanks everyone for all this information! I feel much better prepared now to avoid any issues with my claim.

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Good luck with your claim! Just stay on top of the requirements and you should be fine.

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