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Why would someone be denied unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm trying to understand all the reasons Washington ESD might deny someone's unemployment claim. My friend just got denied and she's confused about why. She worked for over a year at her last job before getting laid off. Are there common reasons people get rejected that aren't obvious? I want to make sure I don't make any mistakes when I file my own claim next week.

There are several main reasons Washington ESD denies claims. Most common ones: quit without good cause, fired for misconduct, didn't earn enough wages in base period, not available for work, or not actively seeking work. Your friend should check her determination letter - it'll explain the specific reason.

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She said she was laid off though, not fired. Could there be other reasons?

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Yes, even with layoffs they check if you meet wage requirements and work search criteria. Also verify she wasn't working reduced hours before the layoff.

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I got denied once because I didn't meet the wage requirement in my base period. You need to have earned at least $6,000 total and worked in at least 2 quarters. Also need to earn 1.5x your highest quarter wages across all quarters.

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That's really specific! How did you figure out those exact numbers?

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It's on the Washington ESD website under eligibility requirements. They calculate it automatically but good to know beforehand.

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Don't forget about the job search requirements! You have to be actively looking for work and available to accept suitable employment. If you're not available due to school, travel, or other commitments, that's grounds for denial.

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This is why I got denied initially. I was taking care of my sick mom and couldn't work full time. Had to appeal and explain my situation.

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Good point - some family care situations can qualify as good cause, but you need to document it properly.

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Has anyone used claimyr.com to get through to Washington ESD when dealing with denials? I've been trying to call for days about my adjudication and can't get through. Found this service that supposedly helps you reach an agent.

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Never heard of it. Is it legit?

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Yeah, watched their demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ and it looks real. They basically keep calling until they connect you with an actual person.

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I used them last month when my claim got stuck in adjudication. Worth it just to talk to someone who could explain what was happening.

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misconduct is a big one too. if you got fired for attendance issues, insubordination, or violating company policy, that's automatic denial. washington esd is pretty strict about this stuff

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What counts as misconduct exactly? Like being late a few times?

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it has to be willful or wanton. just making mistakes usually isn't enough, but chronic tardiness or ignoring warnings can be

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Another common issue is voluntary quit without good cause. Even if you felt you had to quit, Washington ESD has specific criteria for what constitutes 'good cause' - things like unsafe working conditions, discrimination, or significant changes to job duties.

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I quit my job because my boss was horrible but still got denied. Apparently personality conflicts don't count as good cause.

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Unfortunately no, it needs to be documented harassment or illegal behavior. Personality conflicts aren't considered good cause under Washington law.

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Don't forget seasonal workers! If you work in agriculture or other seasonal industries, there are special rules about when you can collect benefits. My brother works in apple orchards and gets denied every year during off-season.

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That seems unfair if it's not their fault the work is seasonal.

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Yeah but the logic is they knew it was temporary when they took the job. Different rules apply.

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WASHINGTON ESD IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DEAL WITH!!! I've been fighting a denial for 2 months and can't even get someone on the phone to explain why. The determination letter is confusing and doesn't give enough detail.

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This is exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier. I was in the same boat - couldn't reach anyone for weeks. They got me connected in like 20 minutes.

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Really? I'm desperate at this point. Bills are piling up and I can't even get basic answers.

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Check out claimyr.com - they handle all the calling hassle and you just pick up when they connect you to an agent.

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Income reporting errors can also cause denials. If you worked part-time while filing weekly claims and didn't report it correctly, they'll deny benefits and sometimes create an overpayment issue.

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How are you supposed to report part-time work exactly?

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Report gross wages earned each week, not when you got paid. Also report any hours worked even if you haven't been paid yet.

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i got denied because i moved to another state and they said i wasn't available for work in washington anymore. had to transfer my claim to the new state which was a nightmare

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Can you transfer unemployment claims between states?

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yes but its complicated and takes forever. you have to close washington claim and open new one in new state

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Your friend should definitely appeal if she thinks the denial was wrong. You only have 30 days from the determination date to file an appeal, so don't wait too long.

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What happens during an appeal?

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You get a hearing with an administrative law judge where you can present your case. Much more thorough than the initial determination process.

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Immigration status can also be a factor. You need to be authorized to work in the US and meet certain criteria if you're not a citizen or permanent resident.

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That makes sense. Are the requirements different for different visa types?

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Yes, very complex rules depending on your status. Work authorization is key but there are other requirements too.

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Age can matter too if you're collecting Social Security retirement benefits. There are limits on how much you can earn from unemployment while getting retirement benefits.

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I didn't know that! My dad is 67 and just got laid off. Should he not apply for unemployment?

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He should still apply, but Washington ESD will coordinate with Social Security to make sure he's not getting more than allowed.

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Training programs can affect eligibility too. If you're in certain types of training without Washington ESD approval, they might deny benefits for not being available for work.

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What if you're in college? Does that automatically disqualify you?

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Not automatically, but you have to prove you're still available for suitable work. Evening classes are usually fine, but full-time day programs can be problematic.

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Identity verification issues are becoming more common too. Washington ESD has gotten stricter about proving you are who you say you are after all the fraud during COVID.

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What kind of documents do they want for identity verification?

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Usually driver's license, Social Security card, and sometimes additional documents. They'll tell you specifically what they need.

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The bottom line is read your determination letter carefully and don't assume anything. Washington ESD has to follow specific laws and if you don't meet the criteria, you get denied regardless of how unfair it seems.

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This has been really helpful. I feel much more prepared now for when I file my claim.

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Good luck! Just be honest on your application and make sure you understand the ongoing requirements like job search.

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One more thing - if you're collecting workers' compensation or disability benefits, that can affect your unemployment eligibility too. Washington ESD coordinates with other benefit programs.

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So you can't get both at the same time?

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Usually not, but there are exceptions depending on the type of benefits and your situation. They'll figure it out during the application process.

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr thing - I used them again last week when I had questions about my job search log. Still works great for getting through to Washington ESD agents quickly.

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I'm definitely going to try them. Thanks for the recommendation!

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Hope it helps! Much better than spending hours on hold or getting disconnected.

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Your friend should also check if she needs to serve a waiting week. Some claims require you to serve one week without payment before benefits start, which might look like a denial if she doesn't understand the process.

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What's a waiting week?

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It's the first week of your claim where you're eligible but don't get paid. You still have to file the weekly claim but won't receive benefits for that week.

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honestly the whole system is confusing and they don't explain things clearly. half the time even the washington esd agents give different answers to the same question

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That's frustrating. How are people supposed to know what's right?

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exactly! thats why appeals exist i guess, but you shouldnt have to go through all that just to get basic answers

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This is so true! I've called three times about the same issue and gotten completely different explanations each time. One agent told me I was eligible, another said I wasn't, and the third one had no idea what I was talking about. Makes you wonder if they need better training or clearer guidelines.

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