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Zoe Papadopoulos

How do you not qualify for unemployment in Washington - need to understand the rules

I'm trying to figure out all the ways someone can be denied unemployment benefits in Washington. My friend just got laid off but thinks they might not qualify because of something that happened at their last job. What are the main reasons Washington ESD would deny someone's claim? I want to make sure I understand the rules before I potentially need to file myself.

There are several main reasons Washington ESD will deny unemployment claims. The biggest ones are: 1) Being fired for misconduct (like theft, violence, or willful violation of company policy), 2) Quitting without good cause, 3) Not meeting the base period wage requirements, 4) Not being able and available to work, and 5) Refusing suitable work without good cause. Each situation gets reviewed individually during adjudication.

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What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My friend had issues with their supervisor but I'm not sure if that would qualify.

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Good cause includes things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, significant changes to job duties or pay, or domestic violence situations. Personality conflicts alone usually don't qualify, but documented harassment might.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements too. Even if you initially qualify, you can lose benefits if you don't do the required job searches each week or if you're not genuinely available for work.

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How many job searches do you have to do each week in Washington?

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It's typically 3 job search activities per week, but it can vary based on your situation. You need to keep detailed records in your job search log.

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I had a friend who got denied because they didn't earn enough in their base period. Washington ESD looks at the first 4 of the last 5 quarters before you file. You need to have earned at least $1,000 in your highest quarter and your total base period wages need to be at least 1.5 times your highest quarter earnings.

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That's really specific! How do you even figure out what your base period is?

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When you file your claim, Washington ESD automatically calculates it for you. They'll show you exactly which quarters they're using and how much you earned during that time.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask about qualification questions, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you actually reach a live agent. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Really helpful when you need to get specific answers about your situation.

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Is that legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my adjudication.

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Yeah, it's real. They basically handle the calling for you so you don't have to sit on hold forever. Saved me hours of frustration.

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Immigration status can also affect eligibility. You generally need to be authorized to work in the US, and some visa types have restrictions on receiving unemployment benefits.

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That makes sense. Are there any other technical reasons people get denied?

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Yeah, if you're receiving certain other benefits like workers' compensation, it can affect your UI eligibility. Also if you're enrolled in school full-time, that can be an issue unless you meet specific exceptions.

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ugh the system is SO confusing. I got denied initially because they said I quit voluntarily but I was basically forced out due to a hostile work environment. Had to appeal and it took forever to get resolved.

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That's exactly why the appeal process exists. Washington ESD sometimes makes initial determinations based on limited information, but you can present your full case during the appeal.

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Yeah, I eventually won my appeal but it was stressful not knowing if I'd get benefits while waiting for the hearing.

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Another reason is if you're not actively looking for work. Washington ESD requires you to be able, available, and actively seeking employment. If you're not genuinely available for work or not doing adequate job searches, you can be disqualified.

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What if you're waiting to start a new job? Does that count as available?

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If you have a definite start date within a few weeks, you might still qualify. But if it's months away or uncertain, Washington ESD might consider you not available for other work.

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Don't forget about the military service connection. If you're recently separated from military service, there are different rules and you might need to meet additional requirements.

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My friend isn't military but good to know. Are there other special categories?

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Athletes, school employees, and people who work for religious organizations sometimes have different eligibility rules or timing restrictions.

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if you lie on your application that's an automatic disqualification plus you might have to pay back benefits and face penalties. Washington ESD cross-checks everything

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This is huge. They verify employment history, wages, and reason for separation with employers. Better to be honest upfront than face fraud charges later.

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exactly! I know someone who got in serious trouble for not reporting part-time work while claiming benefits

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There's also the issue of seasonal work patterns. If you work in seasonal industries and have a pattern of layoffs and rehiring, Washington ESD might determine you're not truly unemployed, just in your regular off-season.

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That seems unfair if you're genuinely not working during the off-season.

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It depends on the specific situation and whether there's a reasonable expectation of returning to the same employer. Each case gets reviewed individually.

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Age discrimination can be tricky too. If you're older and haven't been actively looking for work because you assumed you couldn't find anything, Washington ESD might say you're not genuinely available. You have to show you're actually trying.

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That's frustrating but makes sense from their perspective. They want to see you're making real efforts to find employment.

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Right, it's not enough to just want a job. You have to be actively pursuing opportunities and able to accept suitable work if offered.

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I used Claimyr when I was confused about my eligibility after getting fired. Really helped me get through to someone who could explain exactly what documentation I needed for my appeal. Much better than trying to call Washington ESD directly.

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How quickly were you able to get through to someone?

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Way faster than trying to call myself. They handle all the waiting and calling back until they get you connected with an actual person.

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Self-employment can complicate things too. If you're doing any freelance or gig work, you need to report it properly or you could be disqualified for not reporting income.

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Even small amounts of freelance work?

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Yes, any income needs to be reported when you file your weekly claims. It might reduce your benefits but hiding it could disqualify you entirely.

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Transportation issues can also affect eligibility. If you don't have reliable transportation to get to work, Washington ESD might determine you're not available for employment.

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That seems harsh for people who can't afford a car.

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It depends on your local area and available public transportation. In Seattle, not having a car is less of an issue than in rural areas.

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Physical or mental health issues can be grounds for denial if they prevent you from working. But if you're able to work with reasonable accommodations, you should still qualify.

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How do they determine if someone is able to work?

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They might require medical documentation. If you can't work at all, you'd probably need to apply for disability benefits instead of unemployment.

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Refusing suitable work is a big one that people don't always understand. 'Suitable' doesn't mean your dream job - it means work that's reasonably related to your skills and pays at least a certain percentage of your previous wages.

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What percentage of previous wages counts as suitable?

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It varies based on how long you've been unemployed, but generally starts around 80% of your previous wage and gradually decreases over time.

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If you're on standby status with your employer, you might not qualify for regular unemployment benefits. Standby means you're temporarily laid off but expected to return to work soon.

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My friend might be in this situation. How long is 'soon' for standby?

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Usually within 4-6 weeks. If it goes longer than that, you might be able to switch to regular unemployment benefits.

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Drug testing can also be an issue. If you're fired for failing a drug test or refuse to take one when required, that could disqualify you from benefits.

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Is that even legal for them to ask about?

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Washington ESD can ask about the circumstances of your job separation, including if drugs or alcohol were involved. It's part of determining if you were fired for misconduct.

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Honestly, if your friend is unsure about their eligibility, they should just apply anyway. The worst that happens is they get denied, but they might qualify when they think they won't. The adjudication process exists to review each case individually.

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That's good advice. I was thinking they shouldn't even try if they weren't sure.

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Exactly. Let Washington ESD make the determination rather than self-eliminating. You can always appeal if you disagree with their decision.

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One more thing - if you need to talk to Washington ESD about any of these qualification issues, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier really does work. I was stuck in adjudication for weeks and couldn't get through to anyone. They got me connected to an agent who explained exactly what was holding up my claim.

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Good to know there's a way to actually reach someone. The phone system is impossible.

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Yeah, saved me so much stress. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person to understand what's going on with your claim.

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