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What can stop you from getting unemployment benefits in Washington state?

I'm trying to understand all the reasons Washington ESD might deny or stop unemployment benefits. My cousin just got disqualified for something called 'misconduct' but nobody explained what that actually means. I want to make sure I don't accidentally do something that would mess up my claim. Can someone break down what can actually stop you from getting unemployment? I've heard about job search requirements but what else is there?

There are several main categories that can disqualify you from Washington ESD benefits: 1) Misconduct at work (stealing, harassment, repeated policy violations), 2) Voluntary quit without good cause, 3) Not meeting job search requirements (failing to apply for jobs, skipping WorkSourceWA appointments), 4) Refusing suitable work offers, 5) Not being able and available for work, 6) Fraud or misrepresentation on your claim. Each has different penalties - some are temporary disqualifications, others are permanent.

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Wow that's more complicated than I thought. What counts as 'good cause' for quitting?

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Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or schedule, medical reasons, or domestic violence situations. But you have to prove it with documentation.

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I got disqualified once for not doing my job search correctly. You have to apply for 3 jobs per week and keep detailed records in your job search log. I thought just browsing job sites counted but apparently you have to actually APPLY. Lost 6 weeks of benefits before I figured that out.

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ugh the job search thing is so confusing! do you have to apply for jobs you're overqualified for too?

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Yeah you can't just apply for your dream jobs. They expect you to apply for 'suitable work' which includes jobs that pay less than what you made before.

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The misconduct thing is tricky because Washington ESD has to prove you did something deliberately wrong or negligent. Being bad at your job usually isn't misconduct, but things like showing up late repeatedly, not following safety rules, or being insubordinate definitely count. Your cousin should appeal if they think the misconduct determination was wrong.

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How do you appeal something like that? She's been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks but can't get through.

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I had the same problem trying to reach Washington ESD about my disqualification. Spent hours on hold just to get hung up on. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that connects you directly to Washington ESD agents. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Got through to someone in 20 minutes instead of spending days trying.

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That actually sounds helpful. Did they help you with your appeal?

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Don't forget about the able and available requirement! If you're sick, on vacation, or can't work your normal hours, you need to report that on your weekly claim. I got flagged because I marked that I was available but then mentioned in the comments that I had surgery scheduled.

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Wait so if I have a doctor's appointment I need to say I'm not available that day?

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For a few hours probably not, but if it affects your ability to accept work that day then yes. Better to be honest than get caught in a lie later.

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what about if you get fired for attendance issues? is that misconduct or not?

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Depends on the circumstances. If you had legitimate reasons (illness, family emergency) and followed your employer's policies for reporting absences, probably not misconduct. If you just didn't show up without calling, that's likely misconduct.

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This is exactly why I hate dealing with Washington ESD. Everything is 'it depends' and they never explain the rules clearly.

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Income limits can also stop your benefits. If you work part-time while on unemployment and earn too much in a week, you might not get any benefits for that week. The calculation is weird - they subtract your earnings from your weekly benefit amount but there's also some kind of deduction formula.

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Yeah I think you can earn up to like 1/3 of your weekly benefit amount without affecting your payment, but anything over that reduces it dollar for dollar.

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Something like that. The math always confuses me but the important thing is to report ALL your earnings honestly.

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Identity verification issues can also hold up or stop your claim. If Washington ESD can't verify who you are or suspects identity theft, your benefits get frozen until you can prove your identity. Happened to my neighbor and it took months to resolve.

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How do you prove your identity to them? Do you have to go in person?

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Usually you upload documents through their website - driver's license, Social Security card, utility bills. But sometimes they want additional verification through ID.me or similar services.

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Overpayment issues from previous claims can affect new claims too. If Washington ESD says you were overpaid before and you haven't paid it back, they might offset your current benefits or deny new claims until it's resolved.

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Can they really just take money from new benefits to pay old debts?

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Yes, they can offset up to 50% of your weekly benefits to recover overpayments. It's brutal when you're already struggling financially.

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Don't forget about the work search waiver situations. If you're on standby status (temporary layoff expecting to return) you might not have to search for work, but if that changes and you don't start searching, you'll get disqualified.

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What's the difference between standby and regular unemployment?

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Standby means your employer expects to call you back within a specific timeframe, usually 4-6 weeks. You don't have to look for other work during that period, but if the callback doesn't happen you transition to regular UI and have to start job searching.

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Criminal background can sometimes affect eligibility too, especially if you're incarcerated or have work restrictions due to parole/probation requirements that limit your ability to accept employment.

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That seems unfair - people getting out of prison need income support the most.

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I agree it's a catch-22 situation. The logic is that unemployment insurance is for people who are able and available for work, but there are other assistance programs that might be more appropriate in those situations.

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Immigration status can be an issue too. You need to be authorized to work in the US to collect unemployment benefits. Washington ESD will verify this during the application process.

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Do you need to be a citizen or just have a work permit?

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You need valid work authorization - could be citizenship, permanent residency, or a valid work visa. The key is that you have to be legally authorized to work.

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School enrollment can affect benefits depending on your situation. Full-time students usually can't collect unemployment unless they're in approved training programs or meet other specific criteria.

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What about online classes or part-time school?

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Part-time is usually okay if it doesn't interfere with your ability to work. Online classes might be more flexible but you still need to be available for work during normal business hours.

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Honestly the biggest thing that stops people is just not understanding the system and making mistakes on their weekly claims. I've seen people get disqualified for tiny errors that could have been avoided if Washington ESD just explained things better.

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This is so true. The website is confusing and when you try to call for help you can't get through to anyone.

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That's exactly why I started using Claimyr. Instead of spending hours trying to reach Washington ESD, it connects you directly with agents who can actually explain what you need to do. Saved me from making mistakes that could have cost me weeks of benefits.

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Drug testing requirements don't exist in Washington for regular unemployment, but if you're referred to certain jobs through WorkSourceWA and fail a drug test, that could affect your eligibility.

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Wait so Washington doesn't drug test for unemployment benefits?

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Correct, Washington state doesn't require drug testing to receive unemployment benefits. But if you fail a drug test for a job you were referred to, that might be considered refusing suitable work.

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Union issues can sometimes complicate things too. If you're in a union and there's a strike, you might not be eligible for benefits. Also, if your union has specific rules about accepting non-union work, that can affect your job search requirements.

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Are you saying union members can't get unemployment during strikes?

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Generally no, you can't collect unemployment if you're participating in a strike. But if you're locked out by your employer or the strike ends and you're still unemployed, then you might qualify.

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The bottom line is that Washington ESD has a lot of rules and they're not always clearly explained. The best advice is to be completely honest on all your forms, keep detailed records of everything, and don't hesitate to ask questions when you're unsure about something.

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This thread has been super helpful. I had no idea there were so many ways to get disqualified. I'm definitely going to be more careful with my weekly claims.

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Same here. I'm going to go back and double-check my job search log to make sure I'm doing everything right.

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One last thing - if you do get disqualified for any reason, don't just accept it. You have the right to appeal most Washington ESD decisions. The appeal deadline is usually 30 days from when you get the notice, so don't wait too long.

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How hard is it to win an appeal?

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It depends on your situation and how well you can document your case. Having representation or at least good advice about what evidence to present definitely helps your chances.

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This is another area where getting through to Washington ESD is crucial. If you can't explain your situation to someone who understands the system, it's hard to know if you have a good case for appeal. That Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier might be worth it just to get proper guidance on whether an appeal makes sense.

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Great thread everyone. Bookmarking this for future reference. The unemployment system is complicated enough without having to guess at all these rules.

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Agreed. Wish Washington ESD would just put all this information in one clear place instead of making us hunt for answers.

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Maybe they should hire some of the people in this thread to rewrite their website. Y'all explained more in a few hours than I learned from months of trying to navigate their system.

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