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Makayla Shoemaker

What disqualifies you from unemployment in Washington ESD?

I'm trying to understand all the reasons someone could get disqualified from unemployment benefits in Washington. My friend just got denied and I want to make sure I don't make the same mistakes when I file my claim. I know quitting without good cause is one reason, but what are all the other ways you can get disqualified? Really need to know what to watch out for.

The main disqualifications in Washington are: quitting without good cause, being fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not actively seeking work, not being able and available, fraud, and not meeting the work search requirements. There are also some less common ones like being involved in a labor dispute or not registering with WorkSource.

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What counts as 'suitable work'? I've been turning down jobs that pay way less than my previous job.

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Generally suitable work means jobs that match your skills and experience, but as your claim continues the definition gets broader. You can't turn down work just because it pays less than your old job if it's still reasonable for your skill level.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! You have to do at least 3 job search activities per week and keep a log. If Washington ESD audits you and you can't prove you did the searches, they'll disqualify you.

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This happened to my brother last year. He was doing the searches but not keeping good records and got hit with an overpayment when they audited him.

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What kind of activities count toward the 3 per week requirement?

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Applying for jobs, networking contacts, job interviews, career fairs, working with WorkSource counselors. Just make sure you document everything with dates and details.

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How much does that cost? I've been trying to call ESD for weeks about my work search requirements.

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It's worth it if you need to actually talk to someone at ESD. Way better than spending hours on hold just to get disconnected.

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Another big one people don't realize - if you start working part-time or doing gig work, you HAVE to report it on your weekly claim even if you make very little. Not reporting work income is considered fraud and they'll disqualify you and make you pay back everything.

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Even like $50 from a side job?

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YES! Any work income has to be reported. They have ways of finding out through wage reports from employers.

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My coworker got caught not reporting her weekend catering job. Had to pay back $4,000 in benefits plus penalties.

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The main disqualification reasons in Washington are: 1) Quitting without good cause 2) Getting fired for misconduct 3) Not being able and available for work 4) Refusing suitable work 5) Not actively seeking work 6) Not meeting wage requirements 7) Fraudulent claims. Each one has specific criteria that Washington ESD uses to determine eligibility.

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There are several main categories for disqualification in Washington. The biggest ones are: 1) Misconduct (fired for breaking rules, not showing up, etc.) 2) Voluntary quit without good cause 3) Not able and available for work 4) Refusing suitable work 5) Not actively searching for jobs. Your brother can appeal if he thinks the misconduct determination was wrong.

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Thanks! How does the appeal process work? He's really stressed about this.

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He needs to file an appeal within 30 days of the disqualification notice. Washington ESD will schedule a hearing where he can explain his side of the story.

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Also be careful about the 'able and available' requirement. If you go on vacation, get sick, or have any reason you can't work that week, you need to answer 'no' to being available on your weekly claim. A lot of people think they can just file anyway.

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What if you're sick for like one day during the week?

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If you're available and able to work the majority of the week, you can usually still claim. But if you're out sick for several days or unable to accept work offers, you should probably answer no.

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misconduct is tricky because it has to be willful or negligent. just being bad at your job usually isnt misconduct unless you were ignoring direct orders or policies

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That's helpful to know. He said he was just having performance issues, not breaking any rules.

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Thanks! What exactly counts as 'misconduct' though? Is being late a few times enough to disqualify you?

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to discuss your brother's case, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you actually reach a human agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. I used it when I needed to talk to someone about my adjudication issues.

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Really? How does that work exactly?

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They basically help you get through the phone system and connect with an actual Washington ESD representative. Saved me hours of trying to call myself.

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Misconduct has to be willful or deliberate. Occasional tardiness usually isn't enough unless it's a pattern after warnings. Things like theft, violence, or repeatedly violating company policy are clear misconduct.

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don't forget about the work search requirements! you have to apply for jobs and keep a log or they'll cut you off. learned that the hard way

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The misconduct thing is tricky too. It's not just getting fired - it has to be willful misconduct connected to your work. Like if you're chronically late, steal from your employer, or violate company policies after being warned. Just being bad at your job usually isn't misconduct.

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So if I got laid off due to poor performance that wouldn't disqualify me?

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Probably not, as long as you were trying to do your job and it wasn't intentional. Performance issues and misconduct are different things.

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How many jobs do you have to apply for each week? I've been hearing different numbers from different people.

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The job search requirements can also disqualify you if you're not careful. In Washington you need to make at least 3 job contacts per week and keep detailed records. I almost got disqualified because my job search log wasn't detailed enough.

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What kind of details do they want in the job search log?

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Employer name, contact method, date, position applied for, and what action you took. They can audit your search activities.

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it's 3 job search activities per week in washington. can be applications, networking, job fairs, etc. just keep good records

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Don't forget about the earnings requirement too. You have to have worked enough and earned enough in your base period to qualify in the first place. Some people get denied right away because they don't meet the monetary requirements.

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How much do you need to have earned?

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It's complicated but basically you need to have earned wages in at least two quarters of your base period and meet certain dollar amounts. Check the Washington ESD website for the current numbers.

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I got disqualified once for 'refusing suitable work' when I turned down a job that would have required me to move across the state. Appealed it and won because the job wasn't actually suitable given my circumstances.

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How long did the appeal take?

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About 6 weeks total. Had a phone hearing and everything. Make sure you document why you refused the work if you ever have to appeal.

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WASHINGTON ESD IS SO STRICT ABOUT EVERYTHING! I got disqualified because I turned down a job that paid 30% less than my previous job. They said it was 'suitable work' even though it was a huge pay cut.

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Unfortunately after a certain period of unemployment, you're expected to accept work that pays less than your previous job. The 'suitable work' standards get broader over time.

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Yeah but 30% less?? That's ridiculous. How are we supposed to survive on that?

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Another thing - if you're going to school full-time, that can disqualify you because you're not available for full-time work. There are some exceptions but it's complicated.

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What about online classes or part-time school?

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Part-time is usually ok as long as you're still available for work. Online gives you more flexibility but you still have to be able to work if offered a job.

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Don't forget about the able and available requirement. If you're sick, injured, or have other issues that prevent you from working, you can be disqualified. You have to be physically and mentally able to work full-time.

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What if you have a minor injury that only affects certain types of work?

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You still need to be available for work you can physically perform. Washington ESD looks at whether you're limiting your job search too much.

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Income while collecting can also cause issues. If you work part-time while on unemployment, you have to report ALL earnings. Even small amounts can affect your benefits or cause overpayment issues.

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How much can you earn before it affects your benefits?

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In Washington, they deduct earnings from your weekly benefit amount. There's no 'safe' amount - you have to report everything.

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Going back to misconduct - theft, harassment, violence, or substance abuse at work are automatic disqualifications. But things like tardiness or poor performance might not be misconduct depending on the circumstances.

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That makes sense. My brother was just having trouble keeping up with the workload.

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i got disqualified once for quitting without good cause. thought i had good cause but washington esd disagreed. the appeal process actually worked though - judge overturned it

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What did you consider good cause that they initially denied?

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unsafe working conditions. had to get documentation from osha to prove it at the hearing

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Another thing - if you're collecting unemployment and move out of state, you need to notify Washington ESD immediately. Failure to report address changes can cause problems with your claim.

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Can you still collect Washington unemployment if you move to another state?

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Yes, but you have to follow the work search requirements of whatever state you move to. It gets complicated.

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I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks to ask about my disqualification but their phone lines are always busy. Does anyone know a better way to reach them? I keep getting hung up on after waiting for hours.

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For anyone dealing with disqualification issues, I had success using Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD when I needed to discuss my case. The phone system is impossible otherwise.

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Second person mentioning this service. Is it legit?

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Yeah, they just help you navigate the phone system. Much better than spending hours trying to get through on your own.

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I had the same problem until I found Claimyr. It's a service that helps you get through to Washington ESD agents. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me so much time and frustration.

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School attendance can also affect eligibility. If you're attending school or training without Washington ESD approval, you might not meet the 'available for work' requirement.

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What about online classes or part-time education?

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Depends on how much it interferes with your ability to work. Washington ESD has specific rules about training programs.

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The fraud penalties are serious too. If they determine you knowingly provided false information or didn't report something you should have, they can disqualify you for up to a year and make you pay back benefits plus a 50% penalty.

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And they report it to other states too, so it can affect you if you move and try to file unemployment somewhere else.

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One more - if you quit your job, you generally can't get benefits unless you can prove it was for 'good cause.' Things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties might qualify, but you need documentation.

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What kind of documentation do you need?

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Emails, written complaints to HR, doctor's notes if it's health-related, witness statements. Anything that shows you tried to resolve the issue before quitting.

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Also watch out for the WorkSource registration requirement. You're supposed to register with WorkSource within a certain timeframe after filing your claim. If you don't, they can deny your benefits.

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Is that the same as the work search requirement?

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No, it's separate. You have to actually register on the WorkSource website and create a profile. Then you also have to do your weekly work searches.

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The system is so confusing. I wish they made all these rules clearer upfront instead of having people find out by getting disqualified.

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Right? The handbook is like 50 pages long and written in legal language. Most people don't read it until after they have problems.

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If anyone needs to clarify any of these disqualification rules with Washington ESD directly, I really recommend using Claimyr to get through their phone system. Saved me so much time and frustration compared to trying to call on my own.

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I might have to try that. I've been worried about the work search requirements and can't get anyone on the phone to explain them.

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Bottom line - be honest on all your forms, report everything you're supposed to report, do your work searches, and document everything. Most disqualifications happen because people either don't understand the rules or try to cut corners.

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Exactly. The key is following all the requirements and being truthful. If you make a mistake, it's better to contact ESD right away than hope they don't notice.

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One last thing - if you do get disqualified, you usually have the right to appeal. Don't just accept it if you think they made a mistake. The appeal process exists for a reason.

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Thanks everyone! This has been super helpful. I feel like I understand the rules much better now.

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Good luck with your claim! Just stay on top of all the requirements and you should be fine.

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My cousin got disqualified for not responding to requests for information fast enough. Washington ESD sent him a letter asking for documentation and he missed the deadline by one day.

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That seems harsh for being one day late.

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Yeah but they're really strict about deadlines. He had to go through the whole appeal process to get it reversed.

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Criminal background can sometimes affect unemployment eligibility too, especially if you're fired due to charges or convictions related to your work.

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That makes sense for work-related criminal activity.

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The key thing is documentation. Whether you're dealing with misconduct, quit issues, or anything else - keep records of everything. Text messages, emails, witness statements, whatever you have.

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I'll tell my brother to gather everything he has from his old job.

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Definitely. The more documentation he has for the appeal, the better his chances.

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dont forget about the waiting week either. even if youre not disqualified you might have to serve a waiting week for certain types of separations

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What's a waiting week?

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its a week where you file but dont get paid. kind of like a penalty week

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Union issues can also complicate things. If you're in a labor dispute or strike, you might not be eligible for benefits during that time.

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My brother wasn't in a union so that doesn't apply to his situation.

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I used Claimyr when I was dealing with my disqualification issue and it was a game changer. Being able to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD made all the difference in getting my case resolved.

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I'm definitely going to suggest he try that service. Sounds like it could really help.

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Bottom line - most disqualifications can be appealed if you have good documentation and a valid argument. Don't give up if you think the decision was wrong.

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Thanks everyone for all the detailed information. This gives me a much better understanding of the whole process.

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Good luck to your brother with his appeal. Make sure he files it within the 30-day deadline.

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Really? How does it work exactly? I'm desperate at this point, been trying to call for 3 weeks straight.

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They basically handle the calling process for you and get you connected to an actual person at Washington ESD. Way better than sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected.

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Another big one is if you're not a US citizen or don't have work authorization. Washington ESD will disqualify you if you can't legally work in the US.

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Good point! I forgot about that requirement. Do they check that stuff when you first apply?

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Yes, they verify work authorization as part of the initial application process. You need to provide documentation proving you can legally work.