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Lucas Parker

Who pays for unemployment benefits in Washington - employer or state?

I'm trying to understand how unemployment insurance actually works in Washington state. When I get my weekly UI payments, where does that money actually come from? Is it my former employer paying for it, or does it come from the state? My coworker said employers pay into some kind of fund but I'm not sure if that's right. Also wondering if this affects whether my old boss can contest my claim or not.

Unemployment benefits in Washington are paid from the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which is funded by employer payroll taxes. Your employer doesn't pay your benefits directly - they pay into the state fund through quarterly UI taxes based on their payroll and experience rating.

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So my employer isn't writing checks directly to Washington ESD for my benefits? That's a relief, I was worried they'd be less likely to give me a good reference.

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Correct, but your claim can affect their experience rating which impacts their future tax rates. However, most employers understand this is part of doing business.

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Your employer pays unemployment taxes to fund the system. It's called SUTA (State Unemployment Tax Act) in Washington. They pay quarterly based on their payroll and experience rating.

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So my boss is basically paying for my unemployment? That's awkward...

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Not directly - they pay into the system whether employees collect or not. It's like insurance.

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Unemployment insurance in Washington is funded through payroll taxes paid by employers, not employees. Your former employer doesn't directly pay your benefits - they pay quarterly taxes to Washington ESD based on their payroll and experience rating. The state manages the trust fund that actually pays out benefits.

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So my employer can't just decide to stop paying my benefits if they're mad about me filing?

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Correct, they can't stop payments once you're approved. However, they can contest your initial claim if they believe you weren't eligible (like if they fired you for misconduct).

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Your unemployment benefits are funded through employer payroll taxes, not your personal taxes or state general funds. Every employer in Washington pays into the unemployment insurance trust fund based on their payroll and their experience rating. Don't feel bad about filing - you earned this protection through your work.

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So my boss was right that it affects them? Should I feel guilty about filing?

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No guilt needed! Employers pay these taxes specifically to cover unemployment claims. It's like insurance - they pay premiums whether claims happen or not.

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Your employer doesn't pay your benefits directly. Washington ESD unemployment benefits are funded through payroll taxes that employers pay quarterly. It's called the State Unemployment Tax Act (SUTA) tax. Employers pay into a fund based on their payroll and their experience rating - companies with more layoffs pay higher rates.

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So my employer already paid into the system? They can't refuse to let me collect benefits?

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Exactly. They already paid the taxes. They can contest your claim if they think you were fired for misconduct, but they can't just refuse to let you collect.

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employers pay unemployment taxes every quarter to Washington ESD, its not like they get a surprise bill when you file. The rate they pay depends on how many former employees have filed claims but they budget for this stuff

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exactly, and if they're a decent sized company the impact of one claim is pretty minimal on their overall rate

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That makes me feel better. I was picturing them getting some huge unexpected bill because of me.

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employers definitely pay for it through taxes but the amount they pay depends on how many former employees file claims. companies with more layoffs pay higher rates

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This is why some employers fight unemployment claims even when they know the person deserves it - they're trying to keep their tax rates low.

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Your employer pays unemployment taxes to fund the system, but they don't pay your specific claim directly. Washington ESD collects taxes from all employers and uses that pool to pay benefits. Your boss is just being dramatic.

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That makes me feel better. He was acting like each payment was coming straight from his bank account.

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some employers get higher tax rates if they have lots of claims though so maybe thats why hes upset

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employers definitely pay for it through payroll taxes but dont worry about it affecting them personally

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Good to know, I was worried my manager would be mad about me filing

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Employers in Washington pay unemployment insurance taxes based on their experience rating. Higher turnover and more claims can increase their tax rate over time, but they're not paying your benefits directly. The Washington ESD manages the trust fund that pays all benefits.

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So there is some connection between my claim and what he pays? I don't want to screw him over.

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There's a long-term connection but it's indirect. Don't worry about it - you paid into this system through your work and deserve the benefits.

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exactly, you earned those benefits by working and having taxes withheld

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Employers pay unemployment taxes to fund the system. Washington ESD collects these taxes from all employers based on their payroll and claim history. The state then pays out benefits from this fund.

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So my old boss wasn't wrong about it costing them? That's awkward.

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Their unemployment tax rate might go up if they have a lot of claims, but they're not paying your benefits directly. It's spread across all employers in Washington.

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It's funded through employer payroll taxes, not directly from your former employer's pocket. Washington ESD collects unemployment insurance taxes from all employers based on their payroll. Your individual claim doesn't come directly from your old boss, but it can affect their future tax rates.

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So my boss was being dramatic? He made it sound like he was personally writing me a check every week lol

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Pretty much! The money comes from a pooled fund that all employers pay into. Your boss might see higher rates next year if they have lots of claims, but that's the cost of doing business.

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Your employer pays unemployment taxes to Washington ESD throughout the year based on their payroll. These taxes fund the unemployment insurance program. When you file a claim, it doesn't come directly out of your employer's bank account - it comes from the unemployment insurance fund that all employers pay into. Your employer's tax rate might go up in future years if they have a lot of claims, but that's how the system is designed to work.

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I had the same worry when I got laid off last year! Turns out employers in Washington pay SUTA tax (State Unemployment Tax Act) on every payroll. The money goes into a big fund that pays everyone's claims. Your individual claim doesn't directly hit your old employer's bank account or anything like that.

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SUTA tax - is that different from the federal unemployment tax?

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Yes, there's federal FUTA tax too but that's separate. Washington ESD benefits come from the state SUTA contributions.

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There are actually two parts to unemployment funding in Washington. Employers pay the SUTA tax to the state, and there's also a federal unemployment tax (FUTA) that helps fund the system. The money goes into a trust fund that Washington ESD uses to pay benefits.

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Do employees pay anything into unemployment insurance?

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In Washington state, employees don't pay into unemployment insurance. It's 100% employer-funded through payroll taxes.

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Your employer is probably being difficult because their unemployment tax rate can go up if they have a lot of claims. Companies with higher turnover pay more into the system. But that doesn't mean they can stop you from filing - you earned those benefits.

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That makes sense why they're being weird about it. I was worried they could somehow block my claim.

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Had trouble getting through to Washington ESD to verify my claim details but found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me connected to a real person. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Super helpful when you need to talk to someone about your benefits funding or any other questions!

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I'll check that out if I need to call Washington ESD. The phone lines seem impossible to get through on.

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yeah the wait times are brutal, anything that helps get through faster is worth it

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The whole system is designed so individual employers can't control whether you get benefits or not. Washington ESD makes the final determination based on state law, not what your boss wants. Your employer's taxes go into a big pool that pays everyone's benefits.

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But what happens if the trust fund runs out of money? Does that ever happen?

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During major recessions states sometimes have to borrow from the federal government, but Washington's trust fund is generally pretty stable.

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wait so if my company pays unemployment taxes that means they're basically paying for my benefits right? seems weird that they would pay me to not work

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Think of it more like insurance. Your employer pays premiums (taxes) into a system that provides benefits when needed. They're not directly paying you - they're paying into a shared insurance pool.

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ok that makes more sense when you put it that way

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It's actually a really smart system when you think about it. Employers have an incentive to avoid unnecessary layoffs because it keeps their tax rates lower. But they can't just refuse to pay if they do have legitimate layoffs. The state acts as the middleman to keep things fair.

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Except when employers try to claim you quit when you were actually laid off, just to avoid the hit to their experience rating.

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That's when the appeals process comes in. Washington ESD investigates these disputes and makes a determination based on the evidence.

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wait so employers dont pay anything when you file unemployment?? that doesnt sound right

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Employers pay unemployment insurance taxes regularly to Washington ESD, but they don't pay your specific benefits directly. Think of it like car insurance - you pay premiums, but the insurance company pays claims.

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oh ok that makes more sense. so its like a pool of money from all employers

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Washington ESD collects unemployment insurance taxes from employers based on their payroll and claims history. Higher claims = higher tax rates for that employer over time. But you earned those benefits through your work, so don't feel guilty about collecting.

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Wait so if lots of people get laid off from a company, their unemployment tax rate goes up?

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Exactly. It's called an experience rating. Companies with more layoffs pay higher rates to discourage unnecessary terminations.

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That makes sense from a policy perspective but seems harsh for companies going through tough times

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The system is funded entirely by employer contributions - employees don't pay into unemployment insurance in Washington state. Employers pay both state UI taxes and federal FUTA taxes. The state fund pays your weekly benefits while federal funds help with administration costs.

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I had no idea employees don't contribute to UI in Washington! In some states workers pay a small percentage too. Good to know Washington ESD benefits are 100% employer-funded.

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Exactly - Washington is one of the states where only employers contribute. Makes the system simpler for workers since there's no payroll deduction to worry about.

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I had so much trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask questions like this. Spent hours on hold trying to understand how my claim would affect my old job. Finally found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com that helped me get connected to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

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Is that legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD all week with no luck

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Yeah it worked for me. They basically get you past the busy signals and connect you to a real person at Washington ESD.

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Interesting, might have to check that out if I can't get through today

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I had a similar situation with my old manager trying to make me feel guilty about filing. If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask questions about this, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you actually reach a real person at unemployment offices. Check out claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Thanks! I might need that if I have more questions about my claim.

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wait is that some kind of paid service? why would you pay to call unemployment?

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Yeah there's a fee but honestly worth it when you can't get through otherwise. I was calling for weeks before I found them.

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ya employers pay into the unemployment insurance fund through payroll taxes but its not like they write you a check directly lol

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Good to know it's not direct! I was worried they might try to interfere with my claim somehow.

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employers pay quarterly taxes to washington esd based on their experience rating. if they lay people off frequently their rates go up, if they have stable employment their rates are lower. your claim gets charged back to their account which affects future rates

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That makes sense why he seemed annoyed. Does this mean he might try to contest my claim?

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he could try but if you were laid off for lack of work he doesn't have grounds. only if you were fired for misconduct or quit without good cause

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Even if he contests it, Washington ESD will investigate and make the determination. Document everything about your layoff just in case.

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Oh that makes sense! So it's like insurance that they're already paying for. I was worried I'd be taking money directly from them.

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exactly, and you paid into it too through your work. you earned those benefits

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I work in HR and can confirm that employers pay unemployment taxes every quarter. The rate depends on the company's history of layoffs and claims. New businesses pay a standard rate until they build up experience.

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What happens if a company goes out of business? Are their former employees still eligible for benefits?

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Yes, the benefits are paid from the state trust fund, not directly from the employer. Even if the company closes, you can still collect unemployment benefits.

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just to clarify the funding structure - Washington employers pay unemployment insurance taxes quarterly based on their total wages paid and their experience rating. Higher turnover companies pay more, stable companies pay less. The fund is managed by Washington ESD and thats what pays your weekly benefits

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So companies that lay people off more often end up paying higher rates?

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Exactly right. It creates an incentive for employers to maintain stable workforces since frequent layoffs increase their tax rate.

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That seems fair actually. Companies should pay more if they're constantly letting people go.

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Ava Kim

Your employer is being ridiculous! Unemployment insurance is exactly that - INSURANCE. They pay premiums just like any other insurance and claims get paid from the pool. You filing doesn't take money directly from their pocket.

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That's a good way to think about it. Makes total sense when you put it like that.

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Right, and if they didn't want to pay unemployment taxes they shouldn't have hired employees in the first place.

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Been through this whole process twice now. Your employer pays quarterly taxes to Washington ESD based on their total wages paid and their 'experience rating' which goes up if they have more unemployment claims. The money goes into the state unemployment trust fund, and that's what pays your weekly benefits.

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How do you find out what your employer's experience rating is? Is that public information?

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I don't think individual company rates are public, but you can see general information about how the rating system works on the Washington ESD website.

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The funding comes from employer taxes, but trying to get through to Washington ESD to understand the details can be impossible. I spent weeks calling about my claim status. Finally used Claimyr.com to get connected - they have this system that actually gets you through to an agent. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Wait, there's actually a way to reach Washington ESD by phone that works? I've been trying for days.

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Yeah, Claimyr handles the calling process for you. Saved me hours of redialing busy signals.

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That might be helpful if I run into issues with my claim. Good to know there are options.

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the whole system is designed so workers don't have to worry about the cost when they legitimately need unemployment. You paid into this through your work just like any other insurance

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I never thought of it as insurance I earned through working. That perspective helps a lot.

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Honestly trying to get through to Washington ESD to ask questions like this used to be impossible. I spent weeks trying to call them about my benefit calculations. Finally found this service called Claimyr that actually got me connected to a real person at claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

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Really? I've been trying to get through for days about my adjudication. How does that work exactly?

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They basically handle the calling process for you and get you connected to an actual Washington ESD agent. Way better than sitting on hold for hours and getting disconnected.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS MESSED UP!!! Why should employers have to pay when the government is shutting down businesses left and right?

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The system has been around since the 1930s and helps stabilize the economy during downturns

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Still doesn't seem fair to small business owners who are struggling too

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Your boss shouldn't have made that comment honestly. Yeah technically claims affect their experience rating over time but unemployment insurance is just a cost of doing business. They knew this when they hired people.

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I think he was just stressed about the layoffs in general. Still made me feel bad though.

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Understandable but don't let their stress become your guilt. You need these benefits to get by.

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Your employer's UI tax rate is determined by their 'experience rating' - basically how many former employees have filed successful claims. New employers pay a standard rate until they build up enough history. High-turnover companies pay higher rates.

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Does that mean my employer might be mad at me for filing? I was laid off due to budget cuts, not fired for cause.

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Layoffs are exactly what unemployment insurance is designed for. Most employers expect some UI claims and budget accordingly. Don't worry about it affecting your reference.

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Plus employers can't retaliate against you for filing a legitimate unemployment claim. That would be illegal.

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this whole unemployment system is such a scam anyway. employers pay pennies compared to what they'd pay if they had to directly fund their former employees

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Actually the tax rates can get pretty high for companies that lay people off frequently. Some pay thousands per employee per year.

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still not enough if you ask me

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For context, Washington's unemployment trust fund had over $4 billion before the pandemic. It's a massive pooled fund from all employer contributions. Your claim is a tiny drop in that bucket and you have every right to access benefits you're entitled to.

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Wow, I had no idea the fund was that big. Makes my individual claim seem pretty insignificant.

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That's the point! It's risk pooling - thousands of employers contribute so benefits are there when workers need them.

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i think in washington the employers pay like 0.2% to 5.4% of wages depending on their history with layoffs and stuff. so yeah more claims = higher rates eventually but not immediately

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That's approximately correct. The State Unemployment Tax Act (SUTA) rate varies based on experience rating.

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Good to know there's at least some delay so my claim won't immediately hurt them.

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I always wondered about this too when I filed a few years back. Felt guilty until I realized my employer had been paying unemployment taxes on my wages the whole time I worked there. It's literally money set aside for exactly this situation.

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That's a good way to think about it - they were already paying for this possibility.

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just remember that unemployment benefits exist because lawmakers decided workers needed protection between jobs. The funding mechanism through employer taxes is intentional policy, not some accident

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Good point. It's not like I'm taking charity, this is how the system was designed to work.

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Exactly! You're using a program that exists specifically for people in your situation.

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Don't stress about your former employer. Focus on your job search and getting back on your feet. That's what unemployment insurance is for - to give you breathing room to find good employment rather than taking the first desperate offer.

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You're right, I should focus on finding a good job rather than worrying about my old employer's taxes.

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I've been dealing with Washington ESD for months trying to get through to someone about my claim status. If you need to actually talk to an agent, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you get through the phone lines - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Saved me hours of busy signals and disconnects.

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Is that legit? How does it work?

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Yeah it's real, you can check it out at claimyr.com. They basically handle the calling and waiting for you so you don't have to sit on hold. Really helped when I needed to resolve an adjudication issue.

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I used them too when I couldn't get through about my job search requirements. Worth it when you actually need to talk to someone at Washington ESD.

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Drake

the whole system is basically insurance that employers are required to carry. just like workers comp or other business insurance. they pay premiums (taxes) and when claims happen the insurance (unemployment fund) pays out

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That's a good way to think about it. So Washington state just administers the program but employers fund it.

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Drake

exactly. washington esd is like the insurance company that processes claims and pays benefits, but employers are paying the premiums through their quarterly tax payments

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i thought the employer had to approve your unemployment claim?? my boss told me he could deny it

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No, your employer can't just deny your claim. Washington ESD makes the decision. Your employer can contest it if they think you were fired for misconduct or quit without good cause, but they don't get to approve or deny it.

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oh wow my boss was totally lying to me then. i was afraid to even file

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Don't feel bad about filing! Unemployment insurance is there for exactly this situation. Your employer has been paying these taxes specifically so that employees like you can get benefits when you lose your job through no fault of your own. It's part of the cost of doing business.

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This is so true. I felt guilty when I first filed too but then realized I'd been working and contributing to the system for years.

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To be more specific about Washington's system - employers pay different rates based on their industry and claims experience. New employers start at a standard rate, then it adjusts based on how many former employees file for UI benefits.

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What's the standard rate for new employers in Washington?

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It varies by year but it's usually around 2.7% of the first $62,500 of each employee's wages

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Wow that's a lot of money for employers to pay

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The funding mechanism is pretty straightforward once you understand it. Washington ESD collects UI taxes from employers quarterly based on total wages paid and their experience rating. This money goes into the trust fund, which pays all unemployment benefits in the state.

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What happens if the trust fund runs low? Does the state have to borrow money?

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During economic downturns, states can borrow from the federal government to keep paying benefits. Washington had to do this during the 2008 recession and again during COVID.

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If you need to call Washington ESD about anything related to your claim, definitely try that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. Saved me hours of redialing and actually got me answers about how my benefits were calculated.

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I bookmarked their site. Hopefully I won't need to call but good to have the option.

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Washington state has a State Unemployment Insurance (SUI) tax that employers pay. The rate varies by employer based on their experience rating - companies with more layoffs pay higher rates. There's also a small employee portion in some states but not Washington.

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So if a company lays off a bunch of people their tax rate goes up the next year?

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Exactly. It's called experience rating. Companies that use the system more pay more into it.

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The whole system is designed so that employees who lose their jobs through no fault of their own can get temporary income support. Employers pay into the system as a cost of doing business, kind of like workers compensation insurance.

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How much do employers typically pay? Is it a lot?

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In Washington, the SUTA tax rate ranges from about 0.19% to 5.4% of wages, depending on the employer's experience rating. Most established companies pay somewhere in the middle of that range.

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I remember when I first filed for unemployment I was so worried about 'costing' my employer money. But really, they're paying these taxes regardless. It's not like they get a bill when you file your claim.

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That's exactly what I was worried about! Thanks for explaining

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Same here, I felt guilty for months before I realized how the system actually works

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I remember when I first filed, I was worried my old job would get a bill for my benefits and they'd be angry at me. Turns out they already paid their taxes regardless of whether I filed or not. The decision to grant benefits is entirely up to Washington ESD based on eligibility rules.

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Same here! I felt guilty at first until I realized this is literally what the system is designed for.

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dont let your boss guilt trip you about this! you worked there and contributed to the system through your labor. unemployment benefits are YOUR right when you lose your job through no fault of your own

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You're right, I need to stop feeling bad about this. I didn't choose to get laid off.

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Ava Kim

Exactly! This is why we have unemployment insurance in the first place.

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Here's something interesting - employers actually get a statement showing how their unemployment tax rate is calculated. It includes things like their total payroll, number of claims filed by former employees, and benefit charges against their account. Higher claims = higher future tax rates.

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Is this why some companies try to fight legitimate claims? To keep their rates down?

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Exactly. Some companies will contest claims they know are valid just to try to minimize the impact on their experience rating.

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Your employer pays unemployment insurance taxes every quarter based on their total payroll and their experience rating. The experience rating is basically their track record - companies that lay off workers frequently pay higher rates than stable employers. When you file a claim, it gets charged to their account and can impact their future rates.

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So there's actually an incentive for employers to keep people employed rather than constantly laying off?

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Exactly! It's designed to discourage unnecessary layoffs. Companies with good employment records get lower rates, while those with frequent layoffs pay more.

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The experience rating system makes it fair - stable employers don't subsidize companies that use layoffs as a regular business practice.

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THIS IS WHY EMPLOYERS FIGHT UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS! They don't want their rates to go up so they'll contest everything even when they know you qualify. My last company tried to say I quit when they clearly fired me.

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Oh no, should I expect my employer to contest my claim? The layoff was clearly due to budget cuts.

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If it's a legitimate layoff with documentation you should be fine. Just keep all your paperwork.

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Budget-related layoffs are typically straightforward for approval. Contest usually happen with firing or quit situations.

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I work in HR and deal with this all the time. Washington ESD sends us quarterly statements showing our tax rate and any claims charged to our account. We pay based on our payroll size and experience rating. New businesses start at a standard rate until they build up their own experience rating.

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Do you ever contest claims? My boss seemed like he might try to fight mine.

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We only contest if there's misconduct or if someone quit without good cause. For layoffs due to business reasons, there's no point in contesting - the employee is entitled to benefits.

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Good to hear an HR perspective. Most employers who understand the system don't waste time contesting legitimate layoff claims.

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my friend works in HR and says employers can't directly stop you from getting benefits but they can provide info that might affect your claim

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What kind of info would affect a layoff claim though?

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like if they say you were offered other work and refused it or something

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Yeah, I've been working for 8 years straight so I guess I have earned this safety net.

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My understanding is that both employers and employees technically contribute but in different ways. Employers pay the unemployment tax directly, but employee wages are set with the understanding that employers need to cover these costs.

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In Washington, only employers pay SUTA taxes. Employees don't have unemployment taxes deducted from paychecks like they do for Social Security.

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Oh interesting, I thought employees paid into it too. Thanks for the correction.

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ive been on unemployment for 8 weeks and never knew this. thought my old boss was cutting checks every week lol

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Haha no, your boss isn't personally funding your grocery shopping! Though I bet some employers wish they could control it directly.

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right?? makes me feel less guilty about claiming benefits now

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I manage payroll for a small business and we budget for unemployment tax as a regular expense. It's usually around 2-6% of wages depending on our experience rating. We don't stress about individual claims because it's just part of our labor costs.

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That's reassuring to hear from an employer perspective. Makes me feel less guilty about filing.

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As it should! We plan for these costs because turnover happens in every business.

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I've been paying into this system for 15 years through my various employers and never collected until now. It's basically insurance that employers are required to carry for their employees.

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Same here! I felt guilty about filing at first but then realized I've been paying into this system my whole career through my employers.

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That's a good way to think about it. I shouldn't feel bad about using a benefit that was already paid for.

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Just to be clear - in Washington state, the unemployment insurance system is entirely employer-funded. Some states have employee contributions too, but Washington doesn't. Your employer has been paying quarterly taxes to fund the system.

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Wait, so I've never paid anything into unemployment insurance on my paychecks?

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Correct. In Washington, you don't see unemployment insurance deductions from your paycheck like you do for Social Security or Medicare. It's all employer-paid.

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there's also federal unemployment taxes (FUTA) that employers pay on top of the state taxes but that's mostly for administrative costs

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Right, FUTA is only 0.6% and it goes toward federal oversight and emergency extensions

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So confusing how many different taxes there are

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I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks about my claim status and can't reach anyone. The phone lines are always busy or I get disconnected after waiting forever. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to someone there?

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It's worth noting that nonprofit organizations and government entities can choose to be 'reimbursing employers' instead of paying regular UI taxes. These employers do pay dollar-for-dollar for their former employees' benefits.

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I worked for a nonprofit before - does that mean they paid my benefits directly?

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Only if they elected reimbursing status. Most smaller nonprofits stick with regular UI taxes since it's more predictable budgeting. You'd see it on your wage statements if they were reimbursing.

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The funding mechanism is actually pretty transparent if you know where to look. Washington ESD publishes annual reports showing total collections, total benefits paid out, and the trust fund balance. It's all employer-funded through payroll taxes - no tax money from individual workers goes toward UI benefits.

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Where can I find those reports? Sounds like useful information to have.

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Check the Washington ESD website under their publications section. They usually post the annual trust fund reports there.

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The Washington ESD website has detailed info about how the trust fund works if you want to read more. Basically employers pay in continuously and the fund pays out benefits as needed. Very straightforward system.

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I'll check that out. Always good to understand how these programs actually work.

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The employer portion of unemployment tax in Washington is currently around 0.2% to 6.2% of wages depending on the company's claim history. No employee contribution required here unlike some other states.

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That's a pretty big range! No wonder some employers get stressed about claims.

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Yeah, new employers start at a standard rate then it adjusts based on their experience with claims over time.

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wait so if I quit my job can my employer still get charged for my unemployment?? I thought you couldn't get benefits if you quit

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Generally no, if you quit without good cause you're not eligible for benefits. But if you quit for certain reasons like unsafe working conditions or harassment, you might still qualify.

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Right, there are exceptions for 'good cause' quits. But regular voluntary quits don't qualify for benefits, so no charge to the employer.

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ok good because I've been thinking about quitting my toxic job but didn't want to screw over my boss with unemployment costs

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The whole point of unemployment insurance is to spread the risk across all employers. No single employer bears the full cost of economic downturns or business changes. Your boss needs to understand basic business economics.

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I wish I could explain this to him but I don't think he'd listen to me at this point.

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honestly sounds like the kind of boss who was probably going to lay people off anyway

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The system actually works pretty well when you think about it. Employers who rarely lay people off pay lower rates, while companies with high turnover pay more. It incentivizes stable employment while still providing a safety net.

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Except when you get stuck in adjudication for weeks and can't pay rent! The funding might be stable but Washington ESD's processing sure isn't.

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That's when services like Claimyr become really valuable. Being able to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD about your claim status is worth its weight in gold.

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bottom line - file your weekly claims, do your job search, and don't worry about the funding side. Thats Washington ESD's job to manage, not yours

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You're absolutely right. I need to focus on getting reemployed, not on the behind-the-scenes funding.

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My company's HR person explained that they budget for unemployment taxes as part of their labor costs. It's just built into doing business, like workers comp insurance.

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That makes me feel better about filing my claim

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Exactly, you earned those benefits through your work

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Your employer is probably just being difficult because they don't want their unemployment tax rate to go up. But they can't prevent you from filing or collecting benefits you're entitled to. Don't let them intimidate you.

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Yeah I'm not going to let them scare me out of filing. I need these benefits to pay my bills while I job search.

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I discovered this service called Claimyr that helps you get through to Washington ESD agents. They handle all the calling and waiting for you - check out claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. It was a lifesaver when I needed to resolve my adjudication issue.

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also just so you know, your boss cant retaliate against you for filing unemployment. thats illegal. if he tries to give you bad references or anything like that you should report it

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Good point. I hadn't thought about the reference situation but you're right.

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Exactly right. Employer retaliation for filing legitimate unemployment claims is prohibited under Washington law.

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If you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about the specifics of how this affects your former employer, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does help cut through the phone queue. I was skeptical at first but it actually worked.

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I bookmarked their site earlier. Might use it if I can't get through the regular way.

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still seems weird to pay for something that should be free but I guess if it works...

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I had to deal with a contested claim last year and learned way more about this than I wanted to. Even when your employer contests, they're not the ones deciding whether you get benefits. Washington ESD does their own investigation and makes the call based on state unemployment law. The employer's opinion matters but it's not the final word.

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How long did your contested claim take to resolve?

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About 6 weeks total, but I eventually got approved and received all the back pay. The key was having good documentation of what happened.

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Good luck with your job search! The fact that you're concerned about your former employer shows you're a considerate person, but don't let that stop you from getting the support you need during unemployment.

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Thank you! This whole discussion really helped put things in perspective.

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I had to deal with Washington ESD questioning my separation from my last job. Took forever to get through to someone who could explain what info my employer had provided. Claimyr actually helped me get connected to resolve that issue.

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How did that work out? Did you end up getting approved?

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Yeah, once I could actually talk to someone at Washington ESD it got sorted out pretty quickly. The employer had reported incorrect separation reason.

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The funding comes from State Unemployment Tax Act (SUTA) taxes that employers pay. It's separate from federal unemployment taxes (FUTA). Each state manages their own program with their own tax rates and benefit amounts.

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So Washington ESD just administers what's essentially an employer-funded insurance program?

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Exactly. Washington ESD collects the taxes, processes claims, and pays benefits. But the money comes from employer contributions, not general state revenue.

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wait so in washington state we dont pay anything into unemployment ourselves? i thought it came out of our paychecks

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Nope, Washington is employer-funded only for unemployment insurance. You might be thinking of other deductions like Social Security or disability insurance.

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ohh that makes sense, so many things come out of paychecks its hard to keep track

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been unemployed 3 times in my career and each time my former employers seemed pissed about it. now I understand why - even though they're not writing personal checks, it affects their bottom line through higher tax rates if they have too many claims

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Yeah my boss definitely seemed upset about the cost. Good to know it's not personal money but still impacts their business.

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exactly. it's built into the cost of doing business but some employers still get cranky about it, especially smaller companies that feel every expense

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One important thing to understand - even though employers fund the system, Washington ESD makes all benefit determinations independently. Employers can provide information but they don't decide if you get benefits.

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That's reassuring. I was worried my former employer might have too much influence over the decision.

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They can still make your life difficult by dragging out the process with appeals and contests though.

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The way I understand it, Washington ESD maintains the trust fund that pays benefits, and employers contribute to that fund through payroll taxes. The federal government also provides some funding during high unemployment periods.

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During COVID, the federal government provided a lot of extra funding for extended benefits and the extra $600 weekly payments.

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Right, but the basic regular unemployment benefits are funded by employer payroll taxes to the state.

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Interesting, I'll check that out. I'm desperate at this point.

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Fun fact: unemployment insurance was created during the Great Depression as part of the Social Security Act. The basic funding structure hasn't changed much since then - still employer-funded with federal oversight.

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Amazing that a Depression-era program is still helping people today. Shows how important that social safety net is.

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Thanks everyone! This really helped me understand the system better. Feel much more confident about my claim now.

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For anyone still confused about getting answers from Washington ESD directly, I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Really helped when I needed to speak with an actual person about my claim funding questions. Much better than sitting on hold for hours.

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I've been thinking about trying that. The phone system at ESD is impossible to get through on your own.

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Yeah, it's worth it just for the time savings alone. Plus you get to talk to someone who actually knows the system instead of getting transferred around.

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Ava Kim

Bottom line: Washington employers pay unemployment taxes quarterly to the state, rates are based on their claims history over several years, and the Washington ESD pays benefits from the collected funds. Your individual claim is just one drop in a huge bucket.

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Perfect summary, thank you! This really helps me understand the big picture.

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Yep, and employers who rarely have claims get lower rates, so good employers benefit from the system too.

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your boss sounds like a piece of work tbh. glad you got out of there even if it wasnt by choice

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Honestly yeah, his reaction to this whole thing is pretty telling about what kind of person he is.

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Bottom line - Washington unemployment benefits are paid from a trust fund that's funded entirely by employer payroll taxes. Your individual employer doesn't write a check for your specific benefits, but their tax contributions (along with all other employers) fund the system. The state manages everything and makes benefit decisions independently.

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This has been really helpful. I feel a lot better understanding how it all works now.

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Glad this thread helped! It's one of those things they don't really explain when you first file for benefits.

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One more thing - if your employer contests your claim saying you were fired for misconduct or quit voluntarily, that's a separate issue from who pays. Don't let them intimidate you out of appealing if they challenge your eligibility.

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He hasn't contested it yet but I'll keep that in mind. I was definitely laid off due to lack of work.

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yeah if he contests it just for spite you can fight it. you have rights

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And if you need help reaching Washington ESD during a contest situation, definitely consider using Claimyr since those calls are time-sensitive.

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One more thing - when you do find your next job, you'll be contributing to the system that helped you get through this rough patch. It's really a pretty elegant system when you think about it.

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I like that perspective. I'll be helping fund benefits for the next person who needs them.

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Exactly! We all contribute when working and benefit when needed. That's how social insurance should work.

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Filed unemployment three times over my career and never once regretted it. Each time it gave me the financial cushion to find a better job rather than settling for the first offer out of desperation.

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That's encouraging to hear. I'm hoping it gives me time to find something good rather than just taking anything.

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I've been calling Washington ESD for weeks trying to get my claim straightened out. Finally used Claimyr to get through and talk to an actual person. Check out their site at claimyr.com - they handle all the calling and waiting so you don't have to deal with busy signals all day.

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Several people have mentioned that service. Is it expensive?

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I don't want to discuss pricing here but for me it was worth it to actually resolve my adjudication issue instead of calling for days with no luck.

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I tried calling Washington ESD for 2 weeks straight before finding Claimyr. Sometimes you just need to talk to a human to get things sorted out.

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The tax rate calculation is pretty complex - it's based on the employer's total payroll, their industry classification, and their experience rating over the past few years. Companies in high-turnover industries generally pay higher base rates.

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Makes sense that seasonal businesses or industries with lots of layoffs would pay more.

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Right, restaurants and construction companies typically have higher rates than office jobs because of the nature of their business cycles.

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i got laid off last year and my employer tried to say I was fired for cause to avoid the unemployment charge. washington esd investigated and determined it was really a layoff. employers can't just lie to avoid paying their fair share

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Good to know Washington ESD actually investigates these things. I was worried my boss might try something shady.

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yeah they take it seriously. they interviewed me and my former coworkers to get the real story. the truth usually comes out

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As someone in HR, I can tell you that false misconduct claims usually backfire. Washington ESD has heard every excuse and they know how to investigate.

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EMPLOYERS ACT LIKE UNEMPLOYMENT IS COMING OUT OF THEIR PERSONAL BANK ACCOUNT!! It's literally business insurance that they're required to carry. They pay premiums whether they use it or not, just like any other insurance.

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Right? My boss was acting like I was personally robbing him every week.

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Some employers just don't understand their own payroll taxes. They see unemployment claims as losses instead of insurance payouts.

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fun fact: employees don't pay into unemployment insurance in washington state. it's 100% employer-funded through payroll taxes. some states have employee contributions but washington puts the full burden on employers

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So I never paid into the system but I'm still entitled to benefits?

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yep! your employer has been paying unemployment taxes on your wages the whole time you worked there. you earned those benefits through your work history

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That's why they base your benefit amount on your earnings - higher wages mean your employer paid more in taxes, so you get higher benefits.

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The whole experience rating system is actually pretty fair. Good employers with stable workforces pay lower rates, while companies that frequently lay people off pay higher rates. It creates the right incentives.

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It's like good driver discounts for car insurance - reward the good actors and charge more for risky behavior.

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Exactly! Companies can't just treat workers as disposable without facing higher costs. The system protects both workers and responsible employers.

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been through this whole song and dance multiple times. your benefits come from a fund that all wa employers pay into. your specific employer's future rates might go up if they have lots of claims, but your weekly check isn't coming directly from their pocket

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Thanks for the straight answer. So I shouldn't feel guilty about filing for benefits I'm entitled to?

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hell no! you worked there, your employer paid taxes on your wages, you got laid off through no fault of your own. that's exactly what the system is designed for

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Absolutely right. You earned those benefits through your work history. Don't let employers make you feel bad about using a system they're required to pay into.

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One more tip - if you have trouble reaching Washington ESD by phone, there's a service called Claimyr that can help you get through to an agent. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Really useful when you need to actually talk to someone about your claim.

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I'll keep that in mind if I run into any issues with my claim. Thanks for all the info everyone!

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No problem! The unemployment system can be confusing but at least now you know your boss was just venting his frustration at the system, not at you personally.

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I had a similar situation where my employer was acting like I was stealing from them by filing for unemployment. Turns out they were just worried about their tax rate going up. I filed anyway and got approved no problem.

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How long did it take to get approved?

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About 2 weeks. I had to do a phone interview because my employer contested it, but Washington ESD ruled in my favor since I was laid off, not fired for cause.

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If you need help getting through to Washington ESD to check on your claim status, there's a service called Claimyr that I used. They helped me get through when I couldn't reach anyone on the phone. Check out their website claimyr.com.

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Is that service free?

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They charge a fee but it was worth it for me since I couldn't get through to Washington ESD on my own after trying for days.

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Bottom line - you earned those unemployment benefits through your work history. Your employer already paid the taxes to fund the system. Don't let them make you feel guilty about using a benefit you're entitled to.

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Thank you everyone for explaining this. I feel much better about filing now that I understand how it actually works.

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For what it's worth, I used Claimyr recently when I needed to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my adjudication issue. Saved me hours of trying to call. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ if you want to see how it works.

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I might need to try that if I have issues with my claim. Washington ESD phone lines are always busy.

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Yeah, that's exactly why I used it. Couldn't get through on my own after trying for a week.

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The unemployment insurance system in Washington is pretty straightforward - employers pay quarterly taxes based on their payroll and experience rating, that money goes into a state trust fund, and Washington ESD pays benefits from that fund to eligible claimants.

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So the state isn't using general tax revenue to pay unemployment benefits?

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No, it's a separate insurance system funded specifically by employer payroll taxes. General state taxes don't fund regular unemployment benefits.

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Your employer might contest your claim to try to keep their tax rate from going up, but that doesn't mean they'll win. Washington ESD will investigate and make the decision based on the facts of your separation.

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What kind of things would they investigate?

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They'll look at why you left - were you laid off, fired for misconduct, or did you quit? They might do phone interviews with you and your employer to get the full story.

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Don't let your employer bully you out of filing. The unemployment insurance system exists for exactly this situation - when you lose your job through no fault of your own. File your claim and let Washington ESD sort it out.

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I'm definitely going to file. Thanks for all the helpful information everyone!

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Just remember if you need to reach Washington ESD for any reason - benefit amount questions, job search requirement clarification, whatever - that Claimyr service is there. Much better than spending your whole day redialing their main number.

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Definitely keeping that option in mind. Thanks for all the helpful info everyone!

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This was a great discussion! Really shows how the unemployment system works and why people shouldn't feel guilty about using benefits they're entitled to. Hope your job search goes well!

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Thanks! I feel so much better about filing now. This community is awesome.

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The whole system is designed so that employers who rarely have claims pay less and those who frequently lay people off pay more. It's supposed to incentivize keeping employees.

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Makes sense from a policy perspective. Probably why some companies fight so hard to avoid layoffs.

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Exactly, though sometimes economic conditions force their hand regardless of the tax implications.

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ive been laid off 3 times in 5 years and never had issues with unemployment claims but maybe ive just been lucky with decent employers

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Layoffs are usually pretty straightforward compared to other separation types. Less room for dispute.

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If you need specific details about how your employer reported your separation, Washington ESD can tell you that information. Just be prepared for long hold times unless you use something like Claimyr to get through faster.

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Is there a cost for using Claimyr? Seems too good to be true.

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There is a fee but honestly worth it when you're dealing with time-sensitive claim issues. Way less frustrating than calling all day.

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The Washington State Employment Security Department administers the program but all funding comes from employer taxes collected quarterly. The fund is separate from general state revenue.

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So if there's an economic downturn and lots of claims, do they run out of money?

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The fund has reserves and can borrow from federal government if needed, like what happened during COVID. Then employer taxes get adjusted to repay any loans.

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just wanted to say good luck with your claim! layoffs are tough but at least unemployment is there to help bridge the gap while you find something new

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Thanks! Definitely grateful the system exists, just trying to understand how it all works.

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THE SYSTEM IS STILL BROKEN EVEN IF EMPLOYERS PAY FOR IT. Try getting through to Washington ESD when you have questions - absolute nightmare. At least now there are services that help but it shouldn't be necessary.

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The phone system definitely needs improvement. Online services have gotten better but still not great for complex issues.

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Right? Basic customer service shouldn't require third-party help to access.

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My understanding is that new businesses pay a standard rate for the first few years until Washington ESD has enough data to calculate their experience rating. Then it adjusts up or down.

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Correct, I think it's about 3 years before they move to experience-based rating. Gives new businesses time to establish their pattern.

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Bottom line - don't let your former employer intimidate you about the cost of your claim. If you were legitimately laid off, that's exactly what the system is designed for.

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Thanks for the reassurance. I think I was letting their comments get to me more than I should have.

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Totally understandable. Just focus on filing correctly and providing accurate information to Washington ESD.

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this thread has been super helpful understanding how unemployment funding works, thanks everyone for explaining it so clearly

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Agreed! I feel much more confident about my situation now.

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Final point - even though employers fund unemployment, remember that you earned this benefit through your work history. Don't feel guilty about using a system that's designed to help workers during transitions.

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That's a great way to think about it. I did work hard for two years, and this is exactly the situation unemployment is meant to address.

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Exactly! You contributed to the economy and deserve support while finding your next opportunity.

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Quick summary for anyone still confused: Washington ESD pays your benefits from a trust fund → Trust fund is filled by employer UI taxes → Your employer pays taxes quarterly → Their tax rate depends on how many former employees claim benefits → You don't pay anything as an employee

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Perfect explanation! Wish Washington ESD's website explained it this clearly.

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Seriously, I've been trying to understand this for months. Should be required reading when you file your first claim.

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One thing to remember is that even though your specific employer's taxes might go up slightly if you claim benefits, that's literally what unemployment insurance is for. Don't feel guilty about using a system that's designed to help people between jobs.

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This is so important to remember. I felt terrible about filing until I realized I'd been working and contributing to the system for years.

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Exactly! Plus employers factor UI costs into their business planning. It's not like you're taking money out of their pocket unexpectedly.

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You're all right. I was overthinking this way too much. Thanks for the reality check!

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I learned something new today about Washington unemployment taxes. Always assumed employees contributed directly like with Social Security.

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Common misconception. Federal unemployment (FUTA) and state unemployment (SUTA) are employer-only taxes in most states including Washington.

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The system is designed so that no individual employer gets crushed by unemployment costs during economic downturns. Your boss acting like your claim is bankrupting him shows he doesn't understand his own business expenses.

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That makes sense. If every laid-off worker was a huge direct cost, companies would never hire anyone.

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Ava Kim

Exactly! The risk pooling is what makes the whole system viable for employers and employees.

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hope your claim goes through quickly and you find something better. sounds like you're better off away from that toxic boss

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Thanks! Yeah I'm actually kind of relieved to be out of there now that I think about it.

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just make sure you do your weekly claims on time and keep track of your job search activities. washington esd is pretty strict about that stuff

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Good reminder! I need to set up a system to track my job applications.

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You need to log at least 3 job search activities per week in Washington. Keep detailed records.

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One last plug for Claimyr - if you have questions about job search requirements or weekly claims, they can help you get through to someone who can explain the current rules. The requirements change sometimes and it's good to get official clarification.

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I'll definitely keep that option in mind. Better safe than sorry with these requirements.

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ok you've convinced me it might be worth it if the phone lines are really that bad

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Ava Kim

Hope this thread helped clear things up! Your employer pays taxes into the system but doesn't pay your benefits directly. Don't let anyone make you feel guilty for using a system you're entitled to use.

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This has been incredibly helpful. I feel much better about the whole situation now. Thanks everyone!

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Good luck with your job search! You've got this.

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Final summary: Washington employers pay quarterly SUTA taxes to fund unemployment benefits. Tax rates vary by employer experience (0.2% to 5.4% of wages). Benefits come from the state trust fund, not directly from your former employer. File your weekly claims on time and don't let anyone guilt you about claiming benefits you've earned.

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Perfect summary to bookmark. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything so clearly.

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this should be pinned somewhere, great breakdown of how it all works

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Wait, do you have to pay for that service? Seems like we shouldn't have to pay extra just to reach our own state agency.

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To answer your original question more specifically - Washington state has an unemployment insurance fund that's funded entirely by employer taxes. Employees don't pay into it directly. The fund is managed by Washington ESD and that's where your benefit payments come from. Each employer's tax rate is partially based on their 'experience rating' which considers how many former employees have filed claims.

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So if a company lays off a bunch of people, their taxes go up the next year?

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Yes, that's generally how it works. Companies with higher turnover or more layoffs typically pay higher unemployment tax rates.

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That's why some employers try to fight legitimate claims unfortunately. They don't want their rates going up.

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your boss sounds like he doesn't understand the system. employers pay these taxes whether anyone files claims or not. it's not like he's writing a personal check for your benefits

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Right, he probably just doesn't like that it might affect his tax rate going forward.

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Some employers don't realize the taxes are based on their claims history. They think it's a flat rate for everyone.

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I went through the same thing when I got laid off last year. Felt terrible about filing until I learned that my employer had been paying unemployment taxes on my wages the entire time I worked there. It's literally insurance for this exact situation. File your claim and don't feel guilty about it!

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Thanks, that's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through it.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about the waiting period.

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Mine took about 2 weeks but that was before all the staffing issues at Washington ESD. These days it seems to take longer.

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The whole system is set up so that workers have a safety net when they lose jobs through no fault of their own. Employers pay into it because they benefit from having trained workers available when the economy picks up. Don't let your boss make you feel bad about using benefits you're entitled to.

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That's a good point - it benefits everyone to have unemployment insurance available.

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Exactly! And it keeps people spending money in the local economy instead of just losing everything immediately.

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My understanding is that it's funded through FUTA and SUTA taxes that employers pay. Federal and state unemployment taxes. The rates vary by state and by employer based on their claims history. Washington ESD administers the state program.

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That's correct. SUTA is the State Unemployment Tax Act. In Washington, only employers pay - there's no employee contribution to unemployment insurance.

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Good to know the technical terms. I'll sound more informed when I talk to Washington ESD.

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I had to appeal my initial denial and couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks. Finally used that Claimyr service someone mentioned and got connected to an agent the same day. They were able to explain what documents I needed for my appeal hearing. Worth checking out if you're having trouble reaching them.

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Did you end up winning your appeal? I might need to go that route too.

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Yes, once I had the right documentation it was pretty straightforward. The agent helped me understand exactly what Washington ESD needed to see.

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Don't overthink this - just file your claim. The money comes from an insurance fund, not your employer's operating budget. If your boss is complaining, that's his problem not yours. You need to take care of yourself and your family.

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You're right. I need to stop worrying about my former employer and focus on my own situation.

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Absolutely. Your employer would replace you in a heartbeat if it benefited them. Look out for yourself first.

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For what it's worth, I'm a small business owner and I pay unemployment taxes quarterly. It's just part of the cost of having employees. When former employees file claims, I don't take it personally - that's what the insurance is for. Your boss is being unprofessional by making you feel bad about it.

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Thank you for that perspective! It's helpful to hear from an employer who understands the system.

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This is refreshing to hear. Not all employers are jerks about unemployment claims.

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Most of us understand it's just part of doing business. The few who complain usually don't understand how the system actually works.

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The funding comes from employer payroll taxes. In Washington, employers pay based on their total payroll and their experience rating. New employers pay a standard rate until they build up a claims history. The more claims filed by former employees, the higher the rate gets, but there are caps on how high it can go.

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So there's a maximum rate even if a company has lots of claims?

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Yes, there's a maximum rate to keep it from being completely punitive. The system is designed to be fair to both workers and employers.

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I was in HR for years before I got laid off myself. The unemployment tax is calculated on each employee's wages up to a certain limit each year. Employers budget for this expense just like they budget for other payroll taxes. It's not a surprise cost when someone files a claim.

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That's really helpful context from someone who handled this stuff professionally.

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Did you ever have employers try to fight legitimate claims to keep their rates down?

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Unfortunately yes, some employers do that. But Washington ESD usually sides with the employee if they were laid off through no fault of their own.

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Bottom line - file your claim immediately. The longer you wait, the more money you're losing. The system exists specifically for people in your situation. Your employer's complaints are irrelevant and frankly inappropriate.

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You're absolutely right. I'm going to file online today.

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Make sure you have all your employment history ready when you file. Washington ESD asks for detailed info about your last 18 months of work.

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I had the same guilt when I first filed. Then I realized I'd been working and paying taxes for 15 years - this safety net is something I helped fund through my contributions to the economy. You've earned the right to these benefits through your work history.

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That's a good way to think about it. I have been working and paying taxes for years.

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Exactly! Plus you'll be paying taxes on the unemployment benefits anyway, so you're still contributing.

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When I couldn't reach Washington ESD about my weekly claim certification, I tried that Claimyr service. They got me through to an agent in less than an hour. Really helped me understand why my payment was delayed. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person to sort things out.

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That's been my experience too. The automated systems can only help so much - complex issues need human agents.

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Good to know there's a backup option if I run into problems with my claim.

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Your former boss is probably just frustrated about the potential increase in his unemployment tax rate. But that's the cost of laying people off - it's built into the system to discourage unnecessary layoffs. Don't let his comments stop you from getting the benefits you're entitled to.

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Makes sense that there would be some disincentive for employers to just lay people off willy-nilly.

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Yeah, otherwise employers would just hire and fire people constantly without any consequences.

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File your claim today. The waiting week starts from when you file, not when you lost your job. Every day you delay is money you're not getting. The employer tax situation is not your problem to solve.

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Wait, there's a waiting week? I thought benefits started right away.

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Washington eliminated the waiting week in 2023, so benefits start immediately if you're eligible. But you still need to file as soon as possible after losing your job.

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Oh that's right, I forgot they changed that. Even better reason to file immediately then!

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The money comes from a trust fund that's funded by employer contributions. Think of it like any other insurance - your employer has been paying premiums, and now you need to use the coverage. That's exactly what it's there for.

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Perfect analogy. I wouldn't feel guilty about using health insurance if I got sick.

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Exactly! And unemployment insurance is just as legitimate as any other type of insurance coverage.

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I used to work for Washington ESD processing claims. The vast majority of funding comes from employer taxes. There's also some federal funding for extended benefits during high unemployment periods, but regular benefits are paid from the state unemployment insurance fund that employers pay into.

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Wow, getting insight from someone who actually worked there is really helpful. Thanks!

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What was the most common reason claims got denied when you worked there?

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Usually it was people who quit without good cause or were fired for misconduct. Layoffs like yours are typically approved as long as you meet the work history requirements.

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I tried calling Washington ESD to ask about this exact thing and could never get through. The phone system is terrible. Someone mentioned Claimyr earlier - I actually used them too and it saved me so much time and frustration.

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How much does something like that cost?

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I don't remember the exact price but it was worth it to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD instead of listening to busy signals all day

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The important thing to understand is that Washington has what's called a 'non-charging' provision for certain types of separations. If you were laid off due to lack of work, it might not even count against your employer's experience rating.

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I was laid off because of budget cuts, so hopefully that applies to me

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That would typically qualify as a non-charging separation, so your employer's tax rate wouldn't be affected

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Good to know there are protections for legitimate layoffs

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Bottom line - file your claim if you're eligible. You and your employer both paid into this system through work and taxes. That's what it's there for.

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Thanks everyone, this really helped me understand how it all works

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Agreed, don't feel bad about using benefits you earned

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just wanted to add that some people confuse unemployment insurance with welfare but they're totally different. UI is an earned benefit funded by employer taxes, not general tax revenue

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Important distinction that a lot of people don't understand

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Yeah I definitely thought it came from regular taxes before this thread

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For anyone still struggling to get information from Washington ESD directly, I'll second the recommendation for Claimyr. Used them last month when I had questions about my benefit calculation and they got me through to someone who could actually help.

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Wish I had known about that service months ago when I was dealing with my adjudication issues

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Good to have that option if I need help with my claim

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The employer tax system also helps explain why some companies are more likely to contest unemployment claims - they're trying to keep their experience rating low to avoid higher tax rates in the future.

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Makes sense from their perspective but it's frustrating when you have a legitimate claim

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Hopefully my employer won't contest since it was a clear layoff situation

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Layoffs usually aren't contested since they're clearly not the employee's fault

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One more thing worth mentioning - even though employers fund the system, you've earned these benefits through your work history. Don't feel guilty about filing if you're eligible. The system exists specifically to provide temporary support when you lose your job through no fault of your own.

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This is so important. Too many people feel bad about filing when it's literally an earned benefit.

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