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Who actually pays for UI benefits when I collect? Employer or my insurance payments?

I'm trying to wrap my head around how unemployment insurance actually works in WA. I know money gets taken out of my paycheck for 'unemployment insurance' but I'm confused about who actually funds the benefits when someone collects. Does the employer pay their share when I file a claim? Or is my claim paid entirely from the pool of money I've contributed over the years? My friend thinks the employer gets penalized when someone files, but that doesn't sound right if I've been paying into the system all along. Can anyone explain how the funding actually works?

Javier Cruz

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You actually have a common misunderstanding here. In Washington state, employees do NOT pay into the unemployment insurance system - only employers do. The deduction you're seeing on your paystub is probably for Paid Family and Medical Leave (PFML), which is different from unemployment insurance. Employers pay unemployment taxes based on their history of layoffs (called an "experience rating"). When you collect benefits, it doesn't come from money you personally contributed, but from the employer-funded pool. And yes, when former employees collect benefits, it can potentially increase an employer's UI tax rate in future years.

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Natasha Orlova

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Wait, what?? I've been thinking all this time that I was paying into unemployment! You're saying that deduction on my check labeled as "WA PFML" is completely different? Mind blown. So basically when I collect UI, I'm drawing from a fund my employer paid into, and it might raise their rates later? Now I feel less guilty about filing when I got laid off.

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Emma Thompson

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ya i thought the same thing for like 3 years lol. its confusing af because they both have similiar names. but ya UI is paid by companies not us. thats why some bosses get all weird when u file for it

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Natasha Orlova

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That explains why my former manager tried to convince me to just 'find something else quickly' instead of filing! He made it sound like I was taking money from my coworkers or something.

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Malik Jackson

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Just to add some clarity: Washington employers pay UI taxes on the first $56,500 of each employee's wages (for 2025). Their tax rate varies between 0.10% and 5.4% depending on their "experience rating" - how many former employees have claimed benefits. So yes, when you file a claim, you're not drawing from your own contributions, but from the employer-funded UI trust fund. This is why some employers contest claims - approved claims may increase their future tax rates. As others mentioned, the PFML deduction is separate and does come out of your paycheck (with employers also contributing a portion).

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Isabella Costa

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So thats why my boss literally BEGGED me not to file for unemployment when hours got cut last year! He kept saying "we can work something out" and now I get it - he didn't want his rates to go up. Wish I'd known this then, I would've just filed anyway.

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Ravi Malhotra

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I HAD THE EXACT SAME QUESTION!!! I was paying into the system for 7 YEARS thinking it was for unemployment and then found out it wasn't!!! The whole system is designed to CONFUSE people on purpose if you ask me. And then your employer has the NERVE to fight your claim even though THEY'RE the ones who laid you off!!! My last employer tried to claim I quit when they reduced my hours to basically nothing. THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!!!

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Javier Cruz

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While it can be frustrating, the system isn't intentionally deceptive. The PFML program is relatively new (started in 2019/2020) and provides different benefits than unemployment. If your employer incorrectly claimed you quit when they actually reduced your hours significantly, that's constructive dismissal and you should appeal their contest of your claim. ESD generally sides with employees in those cases if you can document the reduction in hours.

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I've worked in HR for 15 years and want to clarify something important: employers DON'T pay unemployment insurance "when you collect." They pay unemployment taxes quarterly based on their payroll and experience rating. The money goes into the state's UI trust fund, which then pays out benefits to eligible claimants. So when you file a claim, you're not directly costing your employer money at that moment. However, approved claims can impact their experience rating, potentially increasing their tax rate in future years. That's why some employers contest claims they believe are invalid - not because they're paying for your specific benefits out of pocket right now. And yes, as others have said, in Washington, employees don't contribute to UI funding at all. The PFML program is separate and does include employee contributions.

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Natasha Orlova

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Thanks for this detailed explanation! So basically the company has already paid the UI taxes before I even file, but they might pay higher taxes in the future if too many ex-employees collect benefits. That makes much more sense. Is there a way to see how much my previous employer paid in UI taxes for me specifically, or is it just calculated on their entire payroll?

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It's calculated on their entire payroll up to the wage base limit ($56,500 per employee in 2025), not tracked individually by employee. So there's no way to see how much was paid "for you" specifically - it all goes into the same pool. Their tax rate is determined by their overall claim history, size, and industry classification.

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Omar Hassan

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When I was laid off last month my manager said something like "try not to stay on unemployment too long because it costs the company money" and I honestly thought she was lying to pressure me into taking the first job I could find!! Now I understand what she meant - she was worried about their tax rate going up. I wish companies would just be transparent about how this all works instead of making us feel guilty for using a benefit we're entitled to.

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Ravi Malhotra

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EXACTLY!!! They try to guilt you about it but never explain how it ACTUALLY works. Classic corporate tactic to keep workers from claiming what they're ENTITLED to!!!

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