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Is the employer responsible for paying unemployment benefits in Washington ESD?

I'm trying to understand how unemployment insurance actually works in Washington state. When I receive my weekly UI payments from Washington ESD, is my former employer the one who's actually paying me that money? Or does it come from somewhere else? I had a disagreement with my old boss about whether they'd have to pay if I filed for unemployment, and now I'm curious about how the whole system actually works. They seemed to think they'd be on the hook for my benefits directly.

No, your employer doesn't pay your unemployment benefits directly. Washington ESD pays benefits from the unemployment insurance trust fund, which is funded by payroll taxes that employers pay on behalf of all their employees. So while your employer did contribute to the system through taxes, they're not writing you a check each week.

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That makes sense! So it's more like insurance that they've been paying into all along?

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Exactly - it's an insurance system. Employers pay quarterly taxes based on their payroll and experience rating.

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The employer pays unemployment taxes to Washington ESD, but those taxes go into a big pool that funds everyone's benefits. However, if you file a claim, it can affect your employer's experience rating and potentially increase their tax rate in the future. That's probably why your boss was concerned.

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This is why some employers try to contest claims even when they shouldn't. Higher claims = higher taxes for them down the road.

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Oh wow, I didn't realize it could affect their future tax rates. That explains their reaction.

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I've been struggling to get through to Washington ESD to ask about this exact question for weeks! Their phone lines are always busy and I keep getting disconnected. Has anyone found a better way to reach them? I need to understand how this affects my former employer before I proceed with my claim.

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Thanks! I'll check that out. Anything is better than sitting on hold for hours just to get hung up on.

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To clarify the tax structure: Washington employers pay both state unemployment insurance (SUI) taxes and federal unemployment tax (FUTA). The state portion funds your weekly benefits, while the federal portion helps fund the overall system and extended benefits during high unemployment periods.

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How much do employers typically pay in these taxes? Is it a significant cost for small businesses?

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It varies based on the employer's experience rating and payroll size. New employers start at a standard rate, then it adjusts based on how many former employees file claims.

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Your employer can't prevent you from filing for unemployment, but they can contest your claim if they believe you're not eligible. Common reasons include misconduct, voluntary quit, or insufficient work history. If they contest, Washington ESD will investigate and make a determination.

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What happens if they contest it? Do I still get benefits while they investigate?

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Usually yes, but if Washington ESD finds you ineligible after investigation, you might have to pay back benefits you received. That's why it's important to be honest on your application.

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I'm going through a contested claim right now - it's been in adjudication for 6 weeks!

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The experience rating system is designed to make employers with higher turnover pay more into the system. So if an employer frequently lays people off or has high turnover leading to many UI claims, their tax rate increases. This creates an incentive for employers to retain workers and only terminate for valid reasons.

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That seems fair - companies that create more unemployment should pay more to support the system.

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But it also means some employers will fight legitimate claims to keep their rates low, which hurts workers.

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I'm a small business owner and yes, we pay quarterly unemployment taxes to Washington ESD. The rate depends on our industry and claim history. When employees file claims, we get notified and can provide information about the separation, but we don't pay the benefits directly. The money comes from the state trust fund.

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Thanks for the employer perspective! Do you usually contest claims or just let Washington ESD handle it?

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We only contest if the separation was due to misconduct or voluntary quit. For layoffs, we don't contest since the employee is eligible for benefits.

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wait so if my boss fires me he doesn't have to pay me unemployment? i thought that was the whole point

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No, your boss doesn't pay you directly. Washington ESD pays from the unemployment insurance fund. Your employer contributed to that fund through payroll taxes, but they don't write you a check.

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ok that makes more sense. i was wondering why he seemed so worried about it if he wasn't paying

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The whole system is basically insurance - employers pay premiums (in the form of payroll taxes) and employees who lose their jobs through no fault of their own can collect benefits. It's similar to how car insurance works, except it's mandatory for employers and covers unemployment instead of accidents.

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Great analogy! That really helps explain it in simple terms.

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Except unlike car insurance, you can't shop around for better rates - the state sets the tax structure.

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I had to call Washington ESD multiple times to understand how employer charges work when I was dealing with an overpayment issue. Could never get through until someone told me about Claimyr. Now I actually understand that my former employer wasn't being charged directly for my benefits - it was all coming from the trust fund they'd been paying into.

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Did the overpayment have anything to do with employer information being wrong?

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Yes, there was confusion about my separation date and reason. Had to get clarification from both Washington ESD and my former employer to sort it out.

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Important note: while employers don't pay benefits directly, they do have to provide wage and separation information to Washington ESD when you file a claim. This helps determine your benefit amount and eligibility. Some employers are slow to respond, which can delay your claim processing.

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How long do employers have to respond to Washington ESD requests for information?

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Usually 10 business days, but delays are common. If they don't respond, Washington ESD will make a determination based on the information they have.

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My employer told me they would "fight" my unemployment claim. I was really worried they could somehow prevent me from getting benefits, but now I understand they can only contest it - they can't actually stop Washington ESD from paying if I'm eligible.

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Exactly right. They can provide their side of the story, but Washington ESD makes the final determination based on state law and the facts of your case.

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Some employers use intimidation tactics hoping people won't file. Don't let them scare you if you're legitimately eligible.

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The trust fund system is actually pretty smart - it spreads the cost across all employers rather than making individual companies pay for each former employee's benefits. This way, even small businesses aren't bankrupted by a few unemployment claims.

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Makes sense from a risk management perspective. Individual employers might not be able to handle multiple claims at once.

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Plus it ensures there's always money available for benefits, even during economic downturns when lots of people lose jobs.

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One thing to remember is that unemployment insurance is an earned benefit - you and your employer both contributed to the system while you were working. You're not asking for charity; you're collecting on insurance you helped pay for through your work.

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That's a good way to think about it. I was feeling guilty about filing, but you're right - I earned this benefit.

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Exactly! Don't let anyone make you feel bad for using a safety net you helped fund.

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For anyone dealing with employer contests or adjudication issues, I found that having all your documentation ready really helps. Pay stubs, termination letters, any written communication about your job loss - Washington ESD will want to see it all.

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Good advice! I wish I'd kept better records when I was laid off. Had to request copies of everything from HR.

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I'm still trying to get through to someone at Washington ESD to submit additional documentation. The phone system is impossible.

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Try the Claimyr service - they can help you reach an actual agent instead of getting stuck in the phone maze.

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Bottom line: your employer pays taxes into the unemployment system, Washington ESD pays your benefits from that fund, and your claim may affect your employer's future tax rates. But they're not writing you checks directly, and they can't prevent you from filing if you're eligible.

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Perfect summary! This thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel much better about moving forward with my claim now.

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Glad this helped! The unemployment system can be confusing, but understanding how it works makes the whole process less stressful.

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