Can you get unemployment if you quit your job in Washington?
I'm thinking about quitting my job because my manager has been making the workplace really hostile and I'm wondering if I'd still be eligible for Washington ESD unemployment benefits. I know usually you can't get UI if you quit voluntarily, but I've heard there are some exceptions. Does anyone know what the rules are in Washington? I really need to get out of this situation but I can't afford to be without income.
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Tony Brooks
It's possible but very difficult. Washington ESD requires you to prove you had 'good cause' for quitting. Things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or major changes to your job duties might qualify. Inconsistent scheduling alone probably won't cut it unless you can show it was a substantial change from when you were hired.
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Jade Lopez
•What kind of documentation would I need to prove good cause? I don't have anything in writing about the schedule changes.
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Tony Brooks
•You'd want emails, text messages, schedule printouts, anything showing the pattern. Also any communication where you tried to resolve the issue with management first.
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Diego Vargas
Generally no, but there are exceptions for 'good cause' reasons like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or substantial changes to your job. You'd need to document everything thoroughly before quitting.
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Chloe Anderson
•What kind of documentation would I need? I have some emails but not sure if that's enough.
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Diego Vargas
•Keep all emails, write down dates and details of incidents, get witness statements if possible. Washington ESD will review everything during adjudication.
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Alana Willis
Generally no, Washington ESD will deny your claim if you quit without what they call 'good cause.' You have to prove the reason you quit was beyond your control or that any reasonable person would have quit in your situation. It's a pretty high bar to meet.
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Justin Trejo
•What counts as good cause? Is a terrible manager enough?
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Alana Willis
•You'd need to document harassment, unsafe working conditions, or significant changes to your job that weren't agreed to. Just not liking your boss usually isn't enough.
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Daryl Bright
Yes, you can get unemployment after quitting but only if you have 'good cause' under Washington law. Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, discrimination, or significant changes to your job duties or pay. You'll need to document everything and be prepared to prove your case during adjudication.
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Natalie Khan
•What kind of documentation do I need? I have some emails about the harassment but not sure if that's enough.
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Daryl Bright
•Emails are great! Also keep any written complaints you filed, witness statements, medical records if stress affected your health, and document specific incidents with dates and times.
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Ella rollingthunder87
honestly just stay at the job and let them fire you if its that bad. way easier to get unemployment that way. i tried to quit for good cause once and it was a nightmare with all the paperwork
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Yara Campbell
•That's not great advice. If you stop performing your job duties intentionally to get fired, Washington ESD can still deny your claim for misconduct.
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Ella rollingthunder87
•fair point, didnt think about that
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Paolo Esposito
Generally you can't get unemployment if you quit voluntarily, but there are some exceptions in Washington. If you quit for 'good cause' like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties/pay, you might still qualify. You'll need to document everything and be prepared to prove your case during the adjudication process.
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Keisha Brown
•What kind of documentation would I need? I have some emails from my manager but not sure if that's enough.
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Paolo Esposito
•Keep all emails, text messages, witness statements from coworkers, any HR complaints you've filed, medical documentation if stress is affecting your health. The more evidence the better for your case.
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Amina Toure
I quit my job last year because of a hostile work environment and initially got denied for benefits. Had to appeal the decision and it took forever to get through to someone at Washington ESD to explain my situation properly.
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Keisha Brown
•How long did the appeal process take? And did you eventually get approved?
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Amina Toure
•Took about 6 weeks total. I did get approved but only after providing tons of documentation and having a phone interview. The hardest part was actually getting through to Washington ESD to schedule the interview.
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Sienna Gomez
I quit my job last year due to my supervisor's verbal abuse and got approved for unemployment. But it took forever - like 8 weeks in adjudication while they investigated. Washington ESD really scrutinizes voluntary quit cases.
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Natalie Khan
•8 weeks?? How did you survive financially during that time?
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Sienna Gomez
•Had to borrow money from family. It was rough but worth it in the end when they approved my claim.
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Isaac Wright
I successfully got benefits after quitting last year, but it took forever to get through to someone at Washington ESD to explain my situation. The phone system is awful - I probably called 200+ times before reaching a human. If you do decide to quit and file, I'd recommend checking out Claimyr.com to help you get through to an actual agent. They have this system that calls for you and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.
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Jade Lopez
•What was your reason for quitting that they accepted? And how long did the whole process take?
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Isaac Wright
•My supervisor was making inappropriate comments and HR wouldn't address it. I had documented everything with dates and witnesses. The whole process took about 6 weeks from filing to getting my first payment.
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Maya Diaz
•Never heard of Claimyr but might be worth it if it actually works. The Washington ESD phone lines are impossible.
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Mateo Hernandez
Yes, you can get unemployment after quitting in Washington but only if you have 'good cause' which is pretty specific. The main categories are unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or health issues. You'll need to document everything - emails, witnesses, medical records if health-related.
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NebulaNova
•What counts as harassment? My supervisor has been really verbally abusive and creates a hostile environment but I don't have it in writing.
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Mateo Hernandez
•Verbal abuse can count but you need witnesses or some kind of documentation. Start keeping a log of incidents with dates and details. If there are coworkers who witnessed it, get their statements.
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Liam Fitzgerald
Generally, Washington ESD will deny unemployment benefits if you quit without good cause. However, there are exceptions for what they call 'good cause' reasons like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or major changes to your job that weren't part of the original agreement. You'd need to prove your reason for quitting was compelling.
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Mei Lin
•What kind of documentation would I need to prove harassment? I don't have anything in writing but there have been witnesses.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Witness statements can help, but you'd also want emails, texts, or any HR complaints you filed. The more documentation the better for your case.
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Carmen Sanchez
Generally speaking, if you quit your job voluntarily, Washington ESD will deny your unemployment claim initially. However, there are specific circumstances where you can quit and still qualify for benefits - it's called 'good cause' for leaving. Things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or hours, or domestic violence situations can qualify.
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Yuki Watanabe
•What counts as harassment though? My boss yells at people and plays favorites but I don't know if that's enough to qualify.
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Carmen Sanchez
•Workplace harassment that creates a hostile work environment can qualify, but you'll need to document everything - dates, witnesses, any HR complaints you filed. Washington ESD will investigate your claim thoroughly.
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Mateo Rodriguez
Generally Washington ESD doesn't approve unemployment for voluntary quits, but there are exceptions for 'good cause' situations. What you're describing with the hostile work environment and unpaid overtime demands might qualify. You'd need to document everything - keep emails, write down incidents with dates, maybe even record conversations if it's legal in Washington (it is with one-party consent).
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Nia Thompson
•I haven't been documenting much unfortunately. Should I start now even though I'm planning to quit soon?
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Absolutely start documenting now! Even a few weeks of documentation is better than none. Take photos of your schedule showing unpaid overtime, save any abusive emails or texts.
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Aisha Abdullah
I quit my job last year due to harassment and got approved for unemployment after an initial denial. Had to appeal but it worked out. The key is proving your employer created conditions that forced you to quit.
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Nia Thompson
•How long did the appeal process take? I'm worried about going weeks without any income.
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Aisha Abdullah
•Mine took about 6 weeks total, but that was during busy season. The hearing was actually pretty straightforward once I had all my documentation together.
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Max Reyes
You can potentially get unemployment if you quit for "good cause" in Washington. This includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties, or other circumstances that would make a reasonable person quit. You'll need to document everything and be prepared to prove your case during adjudication.
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Felicity Bud
•What kind of documentation should I be collecting? I have some emails but not sure if that's enough.
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Max Reyes
•Save all emails, write down dates and details of incidents, get witness statements if possible, and document any complaints you made to HR or management. The more evidence you have, the better your chances.
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Oliver Weber
If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD about this, I recently discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com) which helps you get through to actual agents. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me hours of calling and getting hung up on when I had questions about my claim status.
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Keisha Brown
•Is this like a paid service? How much does it cost?
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Oliver Weber
•I don't want to get into pricing details but it was worth it for me to avoid the frustration of calling all day. You can check their site for current rates.
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FireflyDreams
•Never heard of this before but might be worth trying if I need to talk to someone about my claim.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
If you're dealing with adjudication delays trying to reach Washington ESD, I found this service called Claimyr that actually got me through to an agent. They have this system that handles the calling for you - check out claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Saved me hours of calling.
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Abigail bergen
•How much does something like that cost? I'm already strapped for cash.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
•It's worth it when you consider how much time you'd spend calling otherwise. Plus they actually get results.
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Aisha Khan
I quit my job last year due to harassment and got approved for benefits. The key is you have to try to resolve the issue first - talk to HR, document your complaints, give your employer a chance to fix it. If they don't address it, then you have good cause to quit.
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NebulaNova
•How long did the whole process take? I'm worried about being without income while Washington ESD decides.
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Aisha Khan
•It took about 6 weeks from when I filed to when I got my first payment. There was an adjudication process where they interviewed me and my former employer.
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Tyler Murphy
I quit my job last year due to harassment and got approved after an appeal. You need LOTS of documentation though - emails, witness statements, anything that proves the situation was intolerable. Washington ESD initially denied me but I won at the hearing.
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Justin Trejo
•How long did the whole process take? I can't afford to be without income for months.
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Tyler Murphy
•About 8 weeks total. The initial decision took 3 weeks, then I had to wait another 5 weeks for my hearing date. It was stressful but worth it in the end.
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Andre Dupont
i quit my last job and got denied initially but then won my appeal. the key is you have to prove you had good cause and that you tried to resolve the issue first. like if theres harassment you need to show you reported it to HR or management before quitting
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Yuki Watanabe
•How long did the appeal process take? I'm worried about going without income for months.
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Andre Dupont
•took about 6 weeks total but i got backpay for all the weeks i was waiting
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Amara Nnamani
I quit my last job and got denied initially, but I appealed it and won. The key is showing that staying would have been unreasonable. Document everything if you're dealing with a hostile work environment.
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Mei Lin
•How long did the appeal process take? I'm worried about how I'll pay bills during that time.
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Amara Nnamani
•Mine took about 6 weeks total. You can't get benefits while the appeal is pending unfortunately.
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Luca Romano
Generally speaking, if you quit voluntarily, you won't qualify for unemployment benefits in Washington. The basic rule is that you need to be unemployed through no fault of your own. However, there are some exceptions for what's called 'good cause' - like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job that weren't part of your original agreement.
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Zara Rashid
•What exactly counts as 'good cause'? My supervisor has been making my life miserable but I'm not sure if that would qualify.
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Nia Jackson
•Harassment definitely can qualify as good cause, but you need to document everything and usually try to resolve it through your employer first.
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Liam Duke
Generally speaking, if you quit voluntarily, Washington ESD will disqualify you from receiving UI benefits. However, there are exceptions for what they call 'good cause' situations - things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties or pay.
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Dana Doyle
•What counts as harassment? My supervisor has been really hostile and created a toxic environment but I don't know if that's legally considered harassment.
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Liam Duke
•Document everything - dates, witnesses, what was said or done. Washington ESD looks for patterns of behavior that would make any reasonable person want to quit.
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Zoe Papadakis
Before you quit, try talking to Washington ESD or getting advice from someone who knows the system. I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) when I had questions about my claim situation. They actually got me through to a real ESD agent who explained my options. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Might be worth checking out before you make any big decisions.
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ThunderBolt7
•Never heard of that service but sounds useful. So hard to get through to ESD by phone normally.
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Yuki Watanabe
•Thanks, I'll look into that. I really need to talk to someone who knows the rules before I do anything.
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Ethan Taylor
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Yuki Ito
•Is that legit? I've been trying to call ESD for weeks about my claim status.
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Ethan Taylor
•Yeah it's real. They basically handle the calling for you and get you connected to an actual ESD agent. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.
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CosmicCruiser
i quit my last job and got denied immediately. took forever to appeal and still lost. probably better to try to get fired instead if you can
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Anastasia Fedorov
•That's terrible advice. Getting yourself fired for cause could hurt you even more with future employers.
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CosmicCruiser
•just saying what worked for my cousin, dont shoot the messenger
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Mikayla Davison
I quit my job last year due to harassment and got approved for unemployment after adjudication. It took about 6 weeks though and I had to provide a ton of documentation. Washington ESD will investigate your claim thoroughly.
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Felicity Bud
•6 weeks?? How did you survive financially during that time?
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Mikayla Davison
•It was rough. I had some savings and picked up odd jobs. The backpay was nice when it finally came through though.
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Manny Lark
You need to be really careful about this. I quit my last job thinking I had good cause and Washington ESD denied my claim. Had to go through a whole appeal process that took months.
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Dana Doyle
•Did you end up winning the appeal? What kind of documentation did you need?
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Manny Lark
•Yeah I eventually won but it was a nightmare. Needed witness statements, emails, anything proving the work environment was intolerable.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
You really need to be careful about quitting. Washington ESD is pretty strict about voluntary quits. Even if you think you have good cause, they might not see it that way. Have you tried talking to HR or filing a formal complaint first?
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Keisha Brown
•I haven't gone to HR yet because my manager is buddy-buddy with the HR director. I don't think it would help and might make things worse.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•I understand that situation, but Washington ESD will want to see that you tried to resolve the issue before quitting. Document that you felt you couldn't go to HR and why.
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Tami Morgan
BE VERY CAREFUL! I quit my job thinking I had good cause and Washington ESD denied my claim. Now I'm appealing but it's been 3 months with no income. You really need to be 100% sure you meet their criteria before quitting. Maybe try talking to your manager about the scheduling issues first?
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Jade Lopez
•Did you have any documentation of your issues? What reason did they give for denying you?
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Tami Morgan
•They said I didn't exhaust all reasonable alternatives before quitting. I should have gone to HR or given my employer a chance to fix the problems.
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Carmen Lopez
be careful about quitting - if ESD doesn't think you had good cause you'll be disqualified and might have to pay back benefits. The burden of proof is on you to show why you HAD to quit.
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NebulaNova
•What happens if I get disqualified? Can I appeal that decision?
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Mateo Hernandez
•Yes you can appeal within 30 days of the disqualification notice. You'll get a hearing where you can present your evidence and explain why you quit.
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Sara Unger
Before you quit, try talking to HR or filing a complaint if your company has those procedures. Washington ESD wants to see that you tried to resolve the situation first. Also consider talking to an employment lawyer - some offer free consultations.
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Justin Trejo
•We don't really have HR, it's a small company. The owner is friends with my manager so I don't think complaining would help.
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Butch Sledgehammer
•Document everything anyway. Keep a log of incidents with dates and times. If you do quit, this will be crucial for your unemployment claim.
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Ethan Wilson
If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to get clarification on your specific situation, I had luck using Claimyr.com - they help you get through to actual agents. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.
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Nia Thompson
•Is that one of those services that charges you? I'm already tight on money.
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Ethan Wilson
•Yeah there's a fee but honestly it was worth it to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD instead of getting hung up on repeatedly. Saved me days of frustration.
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Jamal Edwards
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS! I've seen people get denied for the most ridiculous reasons. They make it nearly impossible to prove 'good cause' and then when you appeal they take forever to respond. Meanwhile you're broke and can't pay rent!
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Mei Chen
•I get the frustration but some people do win their appeals. It's not hopeless.
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Jamal Edwards
•Yeah SOME people win after months of fighting and stress. System shouldn't be this hard to navigate.
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Sean Doyle
You should try reaching Washington ESD to discuss your specific situation before making any decisions. The phone lines are always busy though - I've had success using Claimyr to get through to an actual agent. Check out claimyr.com, they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Chloe Anderson
•Never heard of that service before. Does it actually work to get through to Washington ESD?
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Sean Doyle
•Yeah, it helped me get through when I was stuck in adjudication. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.
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Giovanni Mancini
If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask about this, I used claimyr.com recently and it actually worked. They have a system that calls and waits on hold for you, then connects you to an agent. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way better than spending hours on hold yourself.
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Mei Lin
•That sounds too good to be true. How much does it cost?
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Giovanni Mancini
•I'm not sure about the cost but it was worth it to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD. Way less frustrating than the regular phone system.
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NebulaNinja
•I've heard of that service but never tried it. Might be worth it if you need to discuss your specific situation with an agent.
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Freya Ross
I used Claimyr recently to get through to Washington ESD about my claim status. If you do end up quitting and filing, their system can help you actually reach a human to discuss your specific situation. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way better than spending hours on hold.
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Justin Trejo
•Never heard of that but sounds useful. How much does it cost?
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Freya Ross
•Check out claimyr.com for details. I just know it saved me tons of time trying to get through to explain my situation to an actual person at Washington ESD.
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Leslie Parker
WHATEVER YOU DO dont just quit without having another job lined up or solid proof of harassment!! Washington ESD is super strict about voluntary quits. I quit a toxic job thinking I'd be fine and got denied. Had to scramble to find work while broke.
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Justin Trejo
•Yikes, that's exactly what I'm worried about. How long were you without income?
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Leslie Parker
•Almost 3 months before I found something decent. It was horrible. Only quit if you have documentation or another job ready to start.
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Yara Campbell
The key things Washington ESD looks for in voluntary quit cases: 1) You had good cause connected to your work, 2) You made reasonable efforts to preserve your job first, 3) You can document both the problem and your attempts to resolve it. Examples of good cause include harassment, unsafe conditions, significant changes to job duties or pay, or domestic violence situations.
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Jade Lopez
•Would a 50% reduction in hours count as a significant change? That's basically what's happening to me.
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Yara Campbell
•Possibly, especially if you were hired with the expectation of full-time work. You'd need to show this was a substantial departure from your original employment agreement.
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Rami Samuels
•I had my hours cut from 40 to 15 per week and Washington ESD approved my claim when I quit. But I had my original job posting and everything showing I was hired for full-time.
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AstroAdventurer
I tried to get unemployment after quitting and got denied. Turns out just being unhappy with your job or having a bad boss isn't enough - it has to be something that would make any reasonable person quit. My advice is to document EVERYTHING before you quit.
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NebulaNova
•What kind of documentation should I be keeping?
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AstroAdventurer
•Screenshots of abusive emails, dates and details of incidents, any complaints you made to management, witness statements from coworkers, anything that shows the pattern of problems.
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Ahooker-Equator
The key things Washington ESD looks for in voluntary quit cases: did you try to resolve the issue first, was quitting your only reasonable option, and can you prove the working conditions were genuinely intolerable. Document everything before you quit!
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Natalie Khan
•Should I talk to HR first then? Even though they're part of the problem?
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Ahooker-Equator
•Yes, you need to show you attempted to resolve it through proper channels. Keep records of those conversations too.
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Javier Morales
My cousin quit her job because her boss was sexually harassing her and she got unemployment after appealing. But she had to go through a whole investigation process and it was really stressful. Make sure you're ready for that if you go this route.
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Keisha Brown
•That sounds awful for your cousin. How long did the whole process take for her?
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Javier Morales
•I think it was like 3 months from when she first applied to when she got her first payment. She had to do interviews and provide statements and everything.
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Ella rollingthunder87
the whole system is rigged against workers anyway. they make it nearly impossible to get benefits even when you deserve them
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Tony Brooks
•It's frustrating but the rules exist for a reason. The system would be abused if anyone could quit and collect benefits immediately.
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Ella rollingthunder87
•maybe but when youre struggling to pay rent the bureaucracy doesnt help much
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Mateo Hernandez
The specific term Washington ESD uses is 'quit for good cause connected to the work.' This includes things like: discrimination, harassment, unsafe working conditions, significant reduction in hours or pay, or being asked to do something illegal. You have to prove that a reasonable person in your situation would have quit too.
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Zara Rashid
•That's really helpful. Do I need to file a complaint with HR before quitting to show I tried to fix the problem?
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Mateo Hernandez
•Yes, usually you need to show you made a reasonable effort to resolve the issue before quitting. Keep records of everything - emails, dates, witnesses if possible.
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CosmicCruiser
I quit my job last year due to a hostile work environment and was initially denied benefits. Had to go through the whole appeal process to get it approved. The key is having solid documentation. If you're dealing with getting through to Washington ESD about your specific situation, I found claimyr.com really helpful - they have a service that helps you actually reach an agent instead of sitting on hold forever. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Zara Rashid
•How long did your appeal take? I'm worried about being without income during that process.
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CosmicCruiser
•Mine took about 6 weeks total, but I did get back pay once it was approved. The waiting is stressful but if you have good cause, it's worth fighting for.
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Aisha Khan
•Never heard of claimyr before but getting through to Washington ESD is such a nightmare. Might be worth checking out.
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NeonNova
wait i thought you couldnt get unemployment if you quit period?? this is confusing
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Mateo Rodriguez
•That's a common misconception. Washington has 'good cause' provisions that allow unemployment benefits if you quit for specific reasons like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job.
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NeonNova
•oh wow i had no idea. wish i knew this when i quit my toxic job last year
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Felicity Bud
•Is this legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks with no luck.
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Liam O'Sullivan
You need to be very careful about how you handle this. If you're thinking of quitting, document everything first. Keep emails, write down incidents with dates and witnesses, save any text messages from your boss. If there's an HR department, file a formal complaint and keep copies. Washington ESD will want to see that you made a good faith effort to resolve the problems before leaving.
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Yuki Watanabe
•We don't really have HR, it's a small company. Would documenting everything still help?
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Liam O'Sullivan
•Yes, absolutely. Even without HR, document everything and if possible, address the issues directly with your supervisor or the owner in writing so there's a paper trail.
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Khalid Howes
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Rita Jacobs
•Yeah it's real. They basically handle the waiting on hold part so you don't have to spend hours trying to get through. Saved me a lot of frustration.
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Aisha Jackson
Before you quit, have you tried filing complaints with HR or documenting the harassment through official channels? Washington ESD will want to see that you tried to resolve the situation first before quitting.
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Felicity Bud
•I did file one HR complaint but they basically did nothing. Should I file another one?
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Aisha Jackson
•Yes, and keep copies of everything. The fact that HR didn't address it properly actually helps your case for good cause.
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Zara Rashid
The key is proving you had 'good cause attributable to the employer.' Hostile work environment could qualify if you can show the employer failed to address documented complaints. Did you file any formal complaints with HR?
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Chloe Anderson
•I brought it up with HR twice but they basically brushed it off. I have the emails from those conversations.
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Zara Rashid
•Those emails could be crucial evidence. Make sure you keep copies of everything - your complaint, their response (or lack thereof), and any follow-up.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
The Washington ESD website has a whole section about 'good cause' reasons for quitting. Some of the accepted reasons include: substantial reduction in hours, unsafe working conditions, harassment or discrimination, or if your employer violates labor laws. But the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate it.
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Mei Lin
•Do they consider emotional abuse or verbal harassment as good cause? My supervisor has been screaming at me almost daily.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•Yes, but you need to show you tried to resolve it first - like reporting it to HR or management. And you need evidence of the harassment.
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Yuki Tanaka
The unpaid overtime thing is actually wage theft and you should report it to L&I too, not just quit. Washington ESD looks favorably on situations where the employer is breaking labor laws. File a complaint with the Department of Labor & Industries about the unpaid overtime - it strengthens your unemployment case.
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Nia Thompson
•I didn't know I could report wage theft. Would that hurt my chances of getting a good reference though?
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Yuki Tanaka
•If they're already treating you badly enough to make you want to quit, you probably weren't getting a good reference anyway. Document the wage theft - it's actually illegal.
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Amara Okonkwo
honestly just stay until they fire you if you can handle it. way easier to get unemployment that way and you dont have to fight appeals and stuff
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Yuki Watanabe
•I've thought about that but my mental health is really suffering. Not sure I can wait it out.
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Carmen Sanchez
•Mental health issues can actually qualify as good cause in some situations, especially if the workplace is contributing to them. But you'd need medical documentation.
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Ben Cooper
The key thing is you have to prove you had 'good cause' which is a pretty high bar. Things like personality conflicts with your boss usually don't qualify, but safety issues or discrimination might.
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Dana Doyle
•What about if they changed my schedule without notice? I used to work days and now they want me on nights with no discussion.
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Ben Cooper
•Significant changes to working conditions can sometimes qualify as good cause, especially if it creates hardship like childcare issues.
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Aisha Khan
Also make sure you understand the difference between 'good cause' and 'compelling family reasons' - they're separate categories with different requirements. Good cause is about work conditions, compelling family reasons is for things like domestic violence or caring for family members.
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Andre Dupont
•I didn't know there were different categories! Where can I find more info about compelling family reasons?
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Aisha Khan
•It's all on the Washington ESD website under voluntary quit rules. Compelling family reasons includes stuff like relocating with a spouse or caring for a seriously ill family member.
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Alana Willis
The specific law is RCW 50.20.050 if you want to read the actual requirements. Good cause includes things like domestic violence, discrimination, unsafe working conditions, or substantial changes to your job duties without your agreement.
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Justin Trejo
•Thanks for the reference. Is verbal harassment considered unsafe working conditions?
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Alana Willis
•It could be if it's severe and documented. But you'd need proof it created a hostile work environment that any reasonable person would leave.
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Ryder Everingham
ugh the whole system is so messed up. why should you have to stay in a toxic job just to get benefits?? make it make sense
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Lilly Curtis
•I mean, I get the frustration but there has to be some standard or everyone would just quit and collect unemployment.
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Ryder Everingham
•yeah but there's a difference between just not wanting to work and being harassed at work
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Anderson Prospero
ugh the whole system is so unfair. why should someone have to stay in an abusive job just to get benefits they paid into??
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Daryl Bright
•I get the frustration, but the good cause provisions do protect people in genuinely bad situations. The documentation requirement helps prevent fraud.
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Anderson Prospero
•i guess but it puts the burden on people who are already suffering
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Jade Lopez
Update: I talked to my manager today about the scheduling issues and she said they're understaffed so the inconsistent hours will continue indefinitely. Should I document this conversation somehow?
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Yara Campbell
•Yes! Send a follow-up email summarizing the conversation. Something like 'Per our discussion today, I understand the scheduling issues will continue due to staffing shortages.' This creates a paper trail.
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Isaac Wright
•Definitely document everything. And if you do end up quitting and filing for unemployment, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really helped me get through to Washington ESD quickly to explain my situation.
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Paolo Esposito
Just to be clear on Washington ESD rules - 'good cause' for quitting includes things like: workplace harassment, unsafe conditions, significant reduction in hours/pay, discrimination, domestic violence situations, or major changes to job duties. The key is proving these conditions existed and that a reasonable person would have quit.
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Emma Anderson
•What about if your commute changes dramatically? Like if they move your office and now it takes 2 hours each way?
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Paolo Esposito
•That could potentially qualify as good cause depending on the circumstances. Washington ESD looks at whether the change is unreasonable and beyond what you originally agreed to.
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Tyrone Hill
Just quit and say you were laid off. Who's gonna check?
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Daryl Bright
•That's unemployment fraud and can result in serious penalties including having to pay back benefits with interest and potential criminal charges. Don't do this.
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Ahooker-Equator
•Washington ESD definitely checks with employers. They'll find out and you'll be in much worse shape than if you'd been honest about quitting.
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Natalie Khan
What about constructive dismissal? My boss has been making my job impossible - changing my schedule constantly, giving me tasks outside my job description, basically trying to force me out.
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Daryl Bright
•That could qualify as good cause if you can show the changes were unreasonable and made continuing employment impossible. Document every change they've made.
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Sienna Gomez
•Sounds similar to what happened to me. The key is showing they created conditions that no reasonable person would accept.
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Toot-n-Mighty
I tried this route and got denied. Took it to appeal and still lost. Sometimes Washington ESD just doesn't see things the way you do even with documentation.
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Natalie Khan
•That's what I'm afraid of. Did you have a lawyer for the appeal?
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Toot-n-Mighty
•Couldn't afford one. Tried to represent myself but the employer had legal representation and I was outmatched.
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Max Reyes
The specific Washington good cause reasons include: workplace safety violations, significant reduction in hours or pay, harassment or discrimination, working conditions that violate health/safety standards, and domestic violence situations. Each case is reviewed individually during adjudication.
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Leo Simmons
•How do they define 'significant' reduction in hours? My hours got cut from 40 to 25 per week.
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Max Reyes
•That could definitely qualify as good cause. Generally any reduction of 20% or more is considered significant by Washington ESD.
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Felicity Bud
Update: I ended up calling in sick today because I just couldn't deal with going in. This is affecting my health now too. Would that help my case if I mention the stress and anxiety?
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Max Reyes
•Yes, if the work environment is affecting your health, that can be good cause. You should see a doctor and get documentation of any stress-related health issues.
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Lindsey Fry
•Same thing happened to me. I started having panic attacks before work. Got a doctor's note and it helped with my unemployment claim.
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Lilly Curtis
Just to be clear - you'll still have to serve a waiting week and meet all the other requirements like job search and being able and available for work. Quitting for good cause just means you won't be disqualified for voluntary separation.
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Felicity Bud
•What's the job search requirement like? How many jobs do I need to apply to?
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Lilly Curtis
•You need to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep a log. Can be applications, networking, interviews, etc.
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Saleem Vaziri
I tried this route and got denied. Apparently my documentation wasn't good enough even though I thought I had a solid case. The appeals process is a nightmare too.
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Felicity Bud
•What kind of documentation did you have? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
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Saleem Vaziri
•I had some emails and wrote down incidents but no witness statements. That's probably where I went wrong.
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Luca Romano
omg same situation here! my boss is absolutely awful and creating such a toxic environment. i'm documenting everything now just in case
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Chloe Anderson
•It's so frustrating! Are you planning to quit or trying to stick it out?
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Luca Romano
•trying to hang on while i look for something else but its really hard on my mental health
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Dylan Mitchell
I'm going through this exact situation right now! Filed my claim after quitting due to my boss creating a hostile work environment. Washington ESD initially denied it but I'm appealing. The adjudication process is taking forever though.
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Mei Lin
•How long has your adjudication been pending? I'm scared mine will take months.
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Dylan Mitchell
•It's been 3 weeks so far with no word. The waiting is the worst part honestly.
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Ethan Taylor
just quit my job yesterday because my boss was being completely unreasonable and now im freaking out about money. didnt know about the good cause thing. do i have any chance??
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Luca Romano
•You can still apply and explain your situation. The worst they can do is deny you, but if you have documentation of unreasonable treatment, you might have a case.
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Ethan Taylor
•i dont have much documentation unfortunately. mostly just witnesses who saw how he treated me
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Diego Vargas
Also consider that even if you qualify, there's usually a waiting period and you'll go through adjudication which can take weeks. Make sure you have some savings to cover that gap.
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Chloe Anderson
•How long does adjudication usually take for quit cases?
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Diego Vargas
•Can be anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how complex your case is and how backed up they are.
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Nia Jackson
Important thing to remember is that even if Washington ESD initially denies your claim for quitting, you can appeal the decision. Many people give up after the first denial, but appeals are pretty common and often successful if you have legitimate good cause.
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Zara Rashid
•How do you start the appeal process? Is there a time limit?
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Nia Jackson
•You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal. You can do it online through your Washington ESD account or mail in the form.
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Carmen Diaz
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!!! I quit because of harassment and they STILL denied me initially. Had to fight tooth and nail to prove it wasn't my fault. Meanwhile my employer probably got away with treating other people the same way.
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Nia Thompson
•Did you eventually get approved though? I'm prepared to fight if I have to.
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Carmen Diaz
•Yes but it took months and I almost lost my apartment waiting. Make sure you have some savings or family support during the appeal process.
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Naila Gordon
ugh the whole system is so messed up. they make it nearly impossible to quit even when your job is making you miserable. meanwhile companies can fire you for any reason and you get benefits no questions asked
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Liam Duke
•I understand the frustration, but the system is designed to provide benefits to people who lose work through no fault of their own. There are protections for legitimate cases of constructive dismissal.
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Naila Gordon
•easy to say when you're not stuck in a toxic workplace with bills to pay
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Zoe Papanikolaou
Whatever you do, DON'T just walk out. Give notice if possible and try to work with your employer first. ESD wants to see that you made a good faith effort to resolve the issues before quitting.
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NebulaNova
•Even if the situation is really bad? I'm having panic attacks thinking about going to work.
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Mateo Hernandez
•If it's affecting your health that severely, document that too - see a doctor, get it on record. Health issues can be good cause but you need medical documentation.
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Adrian Connor
If you do end up needing to appeal a denial, Claimyr can also help you reach Washington ESD for appeal information. The phone system is brutal when you're trying to get time-sensitive information about deadlines and procedures.
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Kayla Morgan
•How much does that service cost? Is it worth it?
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Adrian Connor
•I thought it was worth it to actually talk to someone instead of spending hours trying to get through. Check their site for current info.
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Zoe Papadakis
Another option is to see if you can get reduced hours or take leave instead of quitting outright. Sometimes that can help your case later if things don't improve. Also, if you do end up filing for unemployment after quitting, be completely honest about your reasons. Don't try to hide that you quit - Washington ESD will find out anyway from your employer.
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Yuki Watanabe
•Good point about being honest. I was wondering if I should mention it was voluntary or not.
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Zoe Papadakis
•Always be honest. Lying on your application is fraud and can get you in serious legal trouble.
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Giovanni Marino
I had a similar situation last year - toxic boss, no HR department, felt like I was going crazy. I ended up quitting and filing for unemployment. Got denied initially but won on appeal after I showed all my documentation of the hostile work environment. The hearing officer said the key was proving I had no reasonable alternative but to quit.
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Yuki Watanabe
•What kind of documentation did you use? I've been keeping notes but not sure if it's enough.
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Giovanni Marino
•I had emails where my boss was verbally abusive, witness statements from coworkers, and medical records showing stress-related health problems. Also showed I tried to address it with management first.
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Sergio Neal
honestly the system is rigged against workers who quit. even with good reasons they make you jump through hoops. but if youre being harassed you shouldnt have to stay just to get benefits
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Justin Trejo
•I agree it seems unfair but I also can't afford to be wrong about this
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Butch Sledgehammer
•That's why documentation is so important. The more evidence you have, the better your chances.
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Sofia Morales
whatever you do dont just quit without trying other options first. maybe talk to hr or look for another job while you're still employed? unemployment is not guaranteed even with good cause
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Mei Lin
•I've been job hunting but nothing has come through yet. The situation at work is getting worse every day.
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Sofia Morales
•i get it but having some income is better than possibly having none at all
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Yuki Ito
The system is so frustrating. I've been trying to get through to someone at Washington ESD for weeks about my quit situation and can never reach anyone. The phone lines are always busy or I get disconnected after waiting forever.
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CosmicCruiser
•That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - it really does help with the phone issue. I was skeptical at first but it actually worked.
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Yuki Ito
•I'll have to look into that. This whole process is so stressful when you can't even talk to a real person.
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Maya Diaz
Can you file for partial unemployment if your hours get cut instead of quitting completely? Might be a better option.
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Yara Campbell
•Yes, Washington ESD has partial unemployment benefits if your hours are reduced below a certain threshold. You'd still be employed but could get some benefit payments to make up the difference.
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Jade Lopez
•I didn't know about partial benefits. How much would I need to have my hours reduced to qualify?
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Yara Campbell
•Generally if you're working less than full-time and earning less than your weekly benefit amount, you might qualify for partial payments. It's calculated based on your reduced earnings.
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Keisha Brown
This is really helpful everyone. I think I'm going to start documenting everything and maybe consult with an employment lawyer before making any decisions. The last thing I want is to quit and then get stuck with no income and no benefits.
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Paolo Esposito
•That's a smart approach. Having legal advice can really help strengthen your case if you do decide to quit and apply for benefits.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Good idea. Also consider that even if you get approved for unemployment after quitting, there might be a longer waiting period before benefits start.
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Andre Laurent
my friend quit and got unemployment but she had to prove constructive dismissal or something like that
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Constructive dismissal is when working conditions become so intolerable that a reasonable person would be forced to quit. It's one of the 'good cause' reasons Washington ESD recognizes.
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Aisha Khan
One thing people don't realize is that Washington ESD will look at whether you had 'reasonable alternatives' to quitting. Like if you could have transferred to a different department or taken a leave of absence instead. They want to see that quitting was really your last resort.
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Zara Rashid
•That makes sense. In my case, it's a small company so there really aren't other departments to transfer to.
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Carmen Lopez
•Same situation here. Small company, toxic boss, nowhere else to go. Sometimes quitting really is the only option.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
For anyone going through the appeal process, seriously consider using Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD faster. When you're dealing with appeals and hearings, time is critical and you need to be able to reach someone who can help.
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Lena Kowalski
•Does that service work for appeal-related calls too or just regular claim issues?
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
•It works for any Washington ESD phone line. I used it to get status updates during my appeal process.
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Luca Romano
Another category that qualifies is 'domestic violence' situations where someone needs to quit for their safety or to relocate. Washington has specific provisions for this that don't require the same level of work-related documentation.
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Andre Dupont
•Good to know this exists. The system should be more understanding of people in difficult situations.
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DeShawn Washington
What if you quit for health reasons? I have a medical condition that my job was making worse but I'm not sure if that counts as good cause.
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Daryl Bright
•Health-related quits can qualify if you have medical documentation showing your condition and how the job affected it. You'd need doctor statements and evidence you tried workplace accommodations.
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Ahooker-Equator
•Also check if your situation might qualify under FMLA or ADA - those protections could strengthen your unemployment case.
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James Maki
One thing people don't mention enough - start looking for new jobs BEFORE you quit if possible. It shows Washington ESD that you're serious about working and not just trying to get benefits. Plus you might find something and not have to deal with this whole mess.
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Felicity Bud
•Good point. I've been so focused on the harassment I haven't even started job hunting yet.
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James Maki
•Yeah, having some applications in already looks good and shows you tried to resolve the situation by finding other work first.
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Leo Simmons
Also remember that if you quit, you need to file your initial claim right away. Don't wait thinking you need to find a job first. The sooner you file, the sooner adjudication can start.
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Felicity Bud
•How long does adjudication usually take for quit cases?
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Leo Simmons
•Can be anywhere from 4-8 weeks depending on how complex your case is and how backed up they are.
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Nia Jackson
The Washington ESD website has a whole section about voluntary quit situations. You should definitely read through that before doing anything.
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Chloe Anderson
•I looked but it's pretty vague about what actually qualifies as good cause.
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Nia Jackson
•Yeah their website isn't super helpful with specifics. That's why talking to an actual person is better.
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Anastasia Fedorov
Whatever you do, don't just walk out without giving notice. That could hurt your case even more. Try to quit professionally and keep all your documentation organized.
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Chloe Anderson
•Good point. I was thinking about just leaving but you're right about doing it professionally.
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Fatima Al-Sayed
Make sure you understand the difference between 'misconduct' and 'good cause' - these are specific legal terms Washington ESD uses. Good cause means you had compelling personal reasons to quit that any reasonable person would understand. Misconduct is when you get fired for breaking rules or poor performance.
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Yuki Watanabe
•So if I quit because of my boss's behavior, that would potentially be good cause?
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Fatima Al-Sayed
•It could be, depending on the specific circumstances and whether you can prove it created an impossible working situation.
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Dana Doyle
So what exactly do I need to document if I'm thinking about quitting? Should I be keeping a journal or something?
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Liam Duke
•Yes, keep detailed records. Date, time, what happened, who was present. Save any emails or texts. If there are company policies being violated, document that too.
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Manny Lark
•Also try to get witnesses if possible. Washington ESD will want corroboration that the situation really was as bad as you claim it was.
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Malik Thompson
I had a friend who quit and got denied initially but then used some service to help her get through to Washington ESD and explain her situation better. I think it was called Claimyr or something like that. She said it was way easier than trying to call on her own.
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Keisha Brown
•Someone else mentioned that service too. Might be worth looking into if I need to appeal a decision.
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Malik Thompson
•Yeah, she said she was able to actually talk to someone who could look at her case instead of just getting the automated system all the time.
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FireflyDreams
Whatever you decide, make sure you file your claim right away after quitting. Even if you think you might get denied, it's better to get the process started. The adjudication can take weeks anyway.
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Keisha Brown
•Good point. I've heard adjudication can take forever with Washington ESD right now.
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FireflyDreams
•Yeah, mine took almost a month just for a regular layoff. Quit cases probably take even longer since they have to investigate more.
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Liam Fitzgerald
Another thing to consider - if you do quit and file for unemployment, your employer will be notified and can dispute your claim. They'll have a chance to present their side of the story during the adjudication process. Make sure you have solid evidence of whatever good cause you're claiming.
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Mei Lin
•That's what I'm worried about. My employer will probably deny everything and make me look like the problem.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•That's why documentation is so important. Emails, witness statements, medical records if stress is affecting your health - anything that supports your version of events.
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Isabella Ferreira
The Washington ESD website has a whole section about good cause for quitting. Might be worth reading through that before you make your decision. They list specific examples of what they consider valid reasons.
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Keisha Brown
•I'll definitely check that out. Do you remember what page it was on?
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Isabella Ferreira
•I think it's under the eligibility requirements section, but honestly their website is kind of hard to navigate sometimes.
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Jamal Wilson
I work in HR and see this stuff a lot. Most people don't realize that Washington ESD will contact your former employer during the adjudication process. Your employer can dispute your claim and provide their side of the story, so make sure your documentation is solid.
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NebulaNova
•What if my employer lies about what happened?
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Jamal Wilson
•That's why documentation is so important. ESD will weigh the evidence from both sides. If you have emails, witness statements, and a paper trail, it's much harder for an employer to dispute.
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QuantumQuasar
My friend quit because her employer kept changing her schedule with no notice and she couldn't arrange childcare. Washington ESD approved her claim because it was considered a substantial change to the working conditions she was hired under.
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Zara Rashid
•That's interesting. My situation involves changes to my job duties that weren't in my original job description.
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QuantumQuasar
•Definitely document those changes! Take screenshots of your original job posting if you still have it.
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Tyler Murphy
Another option is trying to get laid off instead of quitting. Sometimes if you explain your situation to a reasonable employer, they'll work with you. Or your performance might naturally decline due to the stress, leading to termination.
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Justin Trejo
•I hadn't thought of that approach. Feels a bit dishonest though?
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Tyler Murphy
•Not dishonest if you're genuinely struggling to perform due to a hostile work environment. Just being realistic about the situation.
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Leslie Parker
•Be careful with this approach though. If they fire you 'for cause' you might still get denied benefits.
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Haley Bennett
My sister quit her job last month because of hostile work environment and got approved for benefits. But she had HR complaints and everything documented. The key was showing she tried to fix it first.
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Jade Lopez
•How long did it take for her claim to get approved? I'm worried about the gap in income.
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Haley Bennett
•About 4 weeks total, but she had to do a phone interview to explain her situation. That's where having good documentation really helped.
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Emily Jackson
Before you quit, have you tried talking to HR about the hostile work environment? Sometimes Washington ESD wants to see that you tried to resolve the issue internally first.
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Nia Thompson
•HR is basically non-existent at my company - it's just the owner's wife who handles payroll. She's part of the problem honestly.
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Emily Jackson
•Document that too - the fact that there's no real HR department and the person in charge is contributing to the hostile environment actually helps your case.
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Mei Chen
Just wanted to say I've been through this too. It's scary to think about quitting without another job lined up. Take your time to plan it out and gather evidence if you decide to go that route.
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Yuki Watanabe
•Thanks, it helps to know other people have been in similar situations.
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Dylan Hughes
One thing people don't mention enough is that even if you win your appeal, there's usually a waiting period before benefits start. So make sure you have some savings or a plan to cover expenses during that time.
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Yuki Watanabe
•How long is the waiting period usually?
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Dylan Hughes
•In Washington it's typically one week, but if you have to go through an appeal process, you're looking at several weeks minimum before you see any money.
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Mei Lin
Just wanted to add that I used Claimyr when I was dealing with a voluntary quit claim and it really helped. I was able to speak with an ESD adjudicator directly to explain my situation instead of just hoping my written statement was enough. Definitely worth checking out if you need to talk to someone at ESD.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•How much does that cost though? I'm already stressed about money.
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Mei Lin
•It's not free but honestly it was worth it to actually get through and resolve my issue quickly instead of being stuck in limbo for months.
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Mei-Ling Chen
Been there. Quit due to sexual harassment and it took 3 months to get approved. Had to provide police reports, witness statements, the whole nine yards. But I did eventually get my benefits.
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Natalie Khan
•I'm so sorry you went through that. Did you file a complaint with EEOC too?
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Mei-Ling Chen
•Yes, and having that complaint helped my unemployment case. Shows you were serious about the issue.
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Jasmine Hancock
My friend quit for harassment and got approved but it took forever and she almost lost her apartment waiting for benefits. Make sure you have some kind of backup plan financially.
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Felicity Bud
•That's what I'm worried about. I only have about $800 saved up.
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Max Reyes
•Look into local assistance programs and food banks while you're waiting. Many communities have emergency rent assistance too.
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NebulaNova
I quit for harassment and initially got denied but won on appeal. The key was having detailed records of incidents and showing I tried to resolve it through proper channels first.
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Chloe Anderson
•That gives me some hope! How long did the whole appeal process take?
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NebulaNova
•About 3 months total from initial denial to final approval. Was stressful but worth it in the end.
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Tami Morgan
Just want to emphasize again - don't quit unless you're absolutely certain you meet the good cause requirements. I'm still fighting my denial and it's been a nightmare. The burden of proof is completely on you.
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Rami Samuels
•What's your appeal process been like? I might need to file one too if my claim gets denied.
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Tami Morgan
•Lots of paperwork and waiting. You have to request a hearing and present your case to an administrative law judge. Still waiting for my hearing date.
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Cynthia Love
Have you tried talking to HR about the issues with your supervisor? Sometimes Washington ESD wants to see that you made an effort to resolve the situation before quitting.
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Dana Doyle
•We don't really have an HR department, it's a small company. Would talking to the owner count?
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Cynthia Love
•Definitely document any conversations you have with management about the problems. Shows you tried to fix things internally first.
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Darren Brooks
just quit and deal with the consequences later. life's too short to be miserable at work every day
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Ben Cooper
•That's not great advice. If OP doesn't qualify for unemployment, they could be without income for months while job searching.
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Darren Brooks
•sometimes you gotta take risks. mental health is more important than money
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Ethan Wilson
Just wanted to add - when you do file your claim, be completely honest about quitting voluntarily. Don't try to make it sound like you were fired. Washington ESD will find out anyway when they contact your employer, and lying will disqualify you permanently.
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Nia Thompson
•Good point, I'll be totally upfront about it being a voluntary quit with good cause.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
One more thing - if you do quit and apply, be completely honest about why you quit when you file your claim. Trying to hide the fact that you quit voluntarily will just make things worse if they find out later.
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Keisha Brown
•Definitely planning to be upfront about everything. I've heard they investigate these things pretty thoroughly.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•They do, especially for voluntary quits. They might contact your employer too, so make sure your story is consistent and well-documented.
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Giovanni Mancini
Just wanted to mention again that if you need to talk to Washington ESD about your specific situation, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does work. I was skeptical at first but it saved me hours of trying to get through on the phone. Especially helpful when you have complex questions like yours.
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Dylan Mitchell
•I might try that service too. I've been trying to reach them about my appeal for weeks with no luck.
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Giovanni Mancini
•Yeah, it's definitely worth it when you actually need to speak with someone rather than just filing online.
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Liam Duke
Another option to consider is whether your situation might qualify as constructive dismissal - where the employer's actions effectively force you to quit. This can sometimes be treated like a termination rather than a voluntary quit.
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Dana Doyle
•How do you prove constructive dismissal? Is that easier to get approved than regular good cause?
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Liam Duke
•It's still challenging, but if you can show the employer deliberately made conditions unbearable to force you out, it might be treated as an involuntary separation.
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GalacticGuru
The process is really stressful but don't give up if you truly have good cause. I quit due to unsafe working conditions and initially got denied, but I appealed and won my case. The hearing was nerve-wracking but I had photos of the safety hazards and incident reports I'd filed.
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NebulaNova
•How did you prepare for the hearing? I'm terrified of having to do that.
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GalacticGuru
•I organized all my evidence chronologically and practiced explaining my case clearly. The judge was actually pretty fair and asked good questions to understand the situation.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
WHATEVER YOU DO DONT QUIT WITHOUT HAVING EVERYTHING DOCUMENTED!!! I made that mistake and it was a nightmare trying to prove my case later. Get everything in writing first.
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Zara Rashid
•What kind of documentation worked best for your situation?
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Zoe Papanikolaou
•Emails, text messages, any written complaints you filed, witness statements if possible. Also keep track of dates and times of incidents.
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Sara Unger
You should also know that even if you get approved after quitting, there's usually a waiting period before benefits start. And if you quit, Washington ESD might require you to earn a certain amount at a new job before you're eligible.
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Justin Trejo
•What do you mean by earning a certain amount first?
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Sara Unger
•If you quit without good cause, they might require you to work and earn at least 8 times your weekly benefit amount before you can collect. It's called a disqualification penalty.
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Douglas Foster
i quit my job in november and never even bothered filing for unemployment because i knew theyd just deny it. probably should have tried anyway
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Tony Brooks
•You might still be able to file depending on when you quit. There are time limits but it's worth checking if you had any valid reasons.
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Douglas Foster
•maybe ill look into it, cant hurt to try i guess
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Liam Mendez
I'm going through something similar right now actually. My supervisor keeps scheduling me for shifts I can't work (I told them about my class schedule months ago) and then writing me up for 'attendance issues.' Feels like they're trying to force me to quit.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•That sounds like constructive dismissal too. Keep all those write-ups and any communication about your availability - that's evidence they're creating impossible conditions.
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Liam Mendez
•I've been saving everything in a folder. This thread is making me feel more confident about potentially quitting and filing for unemployment.
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Andre Dupont
also remember that if you do get approved, you'll still have to do job searches every week and all the other requirements. quitting doesnt change those rules
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Yuki Watanabe
•Right, I'd forgotten about the job search requirements. Good reminder.
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CosmicVoyager
I work in HR and I've seen people quit and get unemployment approved, but it's definitely not common. The ones who succeed usually have really clear documentation of the problems they were facing and evidence that they tried to resolve things first.
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Keisha Brown
•That's really helpful insight from the HR perspective. What kind of evidence is most convincing in these cases?
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CosmicVoyager
•Email trails, witness statements, medical records if applicable, and any formal complaints or attempts to resolve the issue. Photos or recordings if it's a safety issue.
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Sophia Nguyen
Check if your state has a 'quit for cause' hotline or anything. Some places have resources to help you figure out if your situation qualifies before you actually quit.
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Nia Thompson
•I'll look into that, thanks. Washington might have something like that through WorkSource or the labor department.
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Dmitry Popov
I quit my job last year because they cut my hours from 40 to 15 per week and Washington ESD approved my claim. They considered it a substantial reduction in work. But I had to provide paycheck stubs showing the difference.
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Mei Lin
•That's helpful to know. My situation is more about the work environment than hours though.
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Dmitry Popov
•Yeah, hostile work environment is harder to prove but not impossible. You just need more evidence.
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Jamal Wilson
The waiting period is brutal though. Even if you qualify, there's still the usual waiting week before benefits start, plus however long the adjudication takes if they need to investigate your quit.
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Zara Rashid
•How long does adjudication usually take for quit cases?
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Jamal Wilson
•Could be anywhere from 2-8 weeks depending on how complex your case is. They might need to interview you and your former employer.
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Jacob Smithson
Whatever you do, don't just walk out in anger. Give proper notice if possible and document that you tried to be professional about it. Shows Washington ESD you weren't just being impulsive.
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Nia Thompson
•That's really good advice. I was definitely feeling like just walking out today after another screaming match with my boss.
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Sofía Rodríguez
Don't forget about the job search requirements even if you quit for good cause. You still have to be actively looking for work and reporting it on your weekly claims.
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Natalie Khan
•Good point. How many job contacts do you need per week in Washington?
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Sofía Rodríguez
•It's typically 3 job search activities per week, but check your individual requirements on your claim.
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Ava Garcia
The system is so unfair. I quit because my boss was sexually harassing me and it still took months to get approved. Even with HR complaints and witness statements, they made me jump through hoops.
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Mei Lin
•I'm sorry you went through that. Did you eventually get your benefits approved?
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Ava Garcia
•Yes, but only after an appeal hearing. The initial denial was automatic because I quit voluntarily.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Sexual harassment is definitely considered good cause for quitting. I'm glad you eventually got approved even though it took too long.
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Mei Lin
I tried using one of those services someone mentioned earlier - Claimyr - and it actually helped me get through to discuss my quit situation. Much better than spending hours on hold.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•How much does something like that cost? Money's already tight when you're out of work.
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Mei Lin
•It was worth it for me given how much time I was wasting trying to call on my own. Check out their website for details.
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Ryder Everingham
the fact that people have to choose between their mental health and paying rent is so messed up
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Cole Roush
•I agree but that's just reality. The system isn't perfect but at least there are some protections for people in genuinely bad situations.
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Amara Nnamani
Also remember that if you do quit and apply for benefits, your former employer will get notified and can contest your claim. They might argue that you quit without good cause, so be prepared to defend your decision.
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Zara Rashid
•That's concerning. What happens if they contest it?
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Amara Nnamani
•Then it goes to adjudication where Washington ESD investigates both sides. That's why documentation is so important - you need to make your case.
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Aiden O'Connor
The waiting period is killer though. Even if you eventually get approved, you might be waiting months without income while they investigate.
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Sienna Gomez
•That's why documenting everything beforehand is so important. The better your case, the faster they might process it.
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Natalie Khan
•I'm starting to document everything now just in case. Better to be prepared.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
my friend quit her job and got unemployment no problem but that was like 2 years ago maybe things have changed?
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Daryl Bright
•The good cause standards haven't changed recently. Your friend probably had a qualifying reason even if she didn't think of it that way.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
•yeah she said something about her hours getting cut way down so maybe that was it
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Jamal Brown
Word of advice - if you do quit and file for unemployment, be 100% honest on your application. Lying about the reason will come back to bite you when Washington ESD contacts your employer.
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Natalie Khan
•Do they always contact the employer?
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Jamal Brown
•For voluntary quits, almost always. They need to verify the circumstances and get the employer's side of the story.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
One more thing to keep in mind - even if you have good cause to quit, you still need to meet all the other unemployment requirements like actively looking for work and being available for work. Quitting for good cause just removes the disqualification for voluntary separation.
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Mei Lin
•Right, I'd still need to do the weekly job search requirements and all that. Thanks for the reminder.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•Exactly. And you'd need to register with WorkSource Washington and maintain your job search log.
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StarSailor}
Has anyone here tried constructive dismissal instead of outright quitting? Like when they make conditions so bad you have no choice but to leave?
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Constructive dismissal is still considered quitting by Washington ESD, but it can be good cause if you can prove the employer intentionally made conditions unbearable.
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StarSailor}
•That's basically what's happening to me. They're trying to force me out without firing me.
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Miguel Silva
just quit and file anyway. worst case they deny it and you're in the same position. best case you get benefits while looking for something better
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Liam Fitzgerald
•That's not great advice. If you quit without good cause and file anyway, it can create issues for future claims too.
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Miguel Silva
•i didn't know that, thanks for the correction
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Zainab Ismail
I used to work for Washington ESD and I can tell you they really do investigate quit cases thoroughly. They'll contact your employer, interview you, and sometimes even talk to witnesses. Don't file unless you have legitimate good cause and can prove it.
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Mei Lin
•That's good to know from someone who actually worked there. What was the most common reason people got approved after quitting?
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Zainab Ismail
•Probably unsafe working conditions or harassment, but only when people had solid documentation. Hearsay rarely worked.
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Giovanni Mancini
Final plug for that Claimyr service - if you do decide to quit and file a claim, you'll probably need to talk to Washington ESD at some point during the process. Better to have a way to actually reach them than waste time on hold. Check out claimyr.com if you need help getting through.
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Mei Lin
•Thanks, I'll definitely consider it if I need to speak with someone about my case.
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Connor O'Neill
Bottom line - document everything, try to resolve the issues through proper channels first, and only quit if you truly have no other reasonable option. Washington ESD takes a dim view of people who quit without exhausting other remedies first.
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Mei Lin
•That makes sense. I should probably try talking to HR one more time and document their response before making any decisions.
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Connor O'Neill
•Exactly. And if they don't address the issues, that becomes part of your evidence that you tried to resolve things.
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Yara Nassar
Good luck with whatever you decide. Just remember that even with good cause, the process can take weeks or months, so make sure you have some savings or other support while you wait for a decision.
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Mei Lin
•Thanks everyone for all the advice. This has been really helpful in understanding what I'm facing.
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Butch Sledgehammer
Start documenting everything NOW even if you haven't decided to quit yet. Dates, times, witnesses, save any emails or texts. If your manager is creating a hostile environment, you want a paper trail.
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Justin Trejo
•Good point. I wish I had been doing this from the beginning.
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Butch Sledgehammer
•It's not too late to start. Even a few weeks of documentation is better than nothing.
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Savanna Franklin
my friend quit and got benefits but it took forever and she had to prove her boss was discriminating against her for being pregnant. washington esd made her go through hell even though what he did was obviously illegal
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Justin Trejo
•How did she prove the discrimination?
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Savanna Franklin
•she had emails and text messages plus a coworker who was willing to be a witness. but she still had to wait months for a hearing
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Freya Ross
If you do end up filing a claim after quitting, definitely use something like Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD. The phone system is brutal and you'll want to talk to someone who can look at your specific situation rather than just getting generic info online.
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Justin Trejo
•Is that the service you mentioned before? Seems like it might be worth it if I go this route.
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Freya Ross
•Yeah, same one. When you're dealing with a quit situation you really need to explain the nuances to an actual person at Washington ESD.
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Alana Willis
One more thing - if you do quit and file for benefits, be completely honest on your application. Don't try to hide that you quit or Washington ESD will find out anyway when they contact your employer. Better to be upfront and explain your reasons.
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Justin Trejo
•That makes sense. I assume they always verify with the employer anyway?
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Alana Willis
•Yes, they send a form to your employer asking about the circumstances of your separation. Lying will just make things worse.
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Juan Moreno
honestly sounds like you should talk to a lawyer before doing anything. some will give free consultations and they know way more about this stuff than random people on the internet
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Justin Trejo
•You're probably right. Do you know how to find employment lawyers who do free consultations?
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Juan Moreno
•try the washington state bar association website. they have a lawyer referral service
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Tyler Murphy
Just to be clear - even with good cause, quitting makes getting benefits much harder than being laid off or fired. Make sure you've exhausted other options first. Can you transfer to a different department or find a new job while still employed?
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Justin Trejo
•It's a small company so no transfers available. Job hunting while working there is tough because I'm so drained by the end of each day.
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Tyler Murphy
•I understand, but try to hang in there while you look if possible. Having a job while job hunting is always better than the alternative.
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Sergio Neal
the whole system is designed to make it hard for workers to get help when they need it most. but if you document everything and can prove harassment you do have a chance
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Justin Trejo
•Thanks for the encouragement. It does feel like the system is against regular workers.
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Sara Unger
Consider also that if you quit and get denied benefits, you can still appeal the decision. Many people win on appeal even after being initially denied. But the process takes time and you need to be prepared financially.
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Justin Trejo
•How long does the appeal process usually take?
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Sara Unger
•Usually 4-8 weeks from when you file the appeal to when you get a hearing date. Then you wait for the decision after that.
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Amy Fleming
I tried the Claimyr thing that people mentioned and it actually worked great for getting through to Washington ESD. If you end up filing after quitting you'll definitely want to talk to someone there about whether your situation qualifies as good cause.
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Justin Trejo
•Good to hear another positive review. I'll keep that in mind if I go through with this.
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Butch Sledgehammer
Bottom line - don't quit unless you have solid documentation of why it was necessary. And even then, be prepared for a fight. Washington ESD errs on the side of denying voluntary quit claims. But if you truly have good cause and can prove it, you can win.
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Justin Trejo
•Thanks everyone for all the advice. I have a lot to think about and some documenting to do before I make any decisions.
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Butch Sledgehammer
•Smart approach. Take your time and build your case if you decide to go forward with quitting.
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Alice Pierce
good luck whatever you decide! toxic work environments are the worst but being broke is also terrible so choose carefully
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Justin Trejo
•Exactly my dilemma. Thanks for understanding.
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Isabella Brown
Has anyone tried those employee assistance programs? Some companies have them even if they don't advertise it well. Might be worth checking if there's any internal reporting mechanism first.
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Nia Thompson
•Small company, no EAP unfortunately. It's basically just me, my boss, and two other employees.
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Ethan Wilson
For what it's worth, I used Claimyr again recently when I had questions about my weekly claim certification. Still the fastest way to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD instead of navigating their phone tree for an hour just to get disconnected.
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Maya Patel
•How much does it cost though? I keep seeing people mention it but nobody talks about the price.
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Ethan Wilson
•I'd rather not post specific pricing here but it's reasonable compared to the time and stress it saves. Check their site for current rates.
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Aiden Rodríguez
The good cause thing is real but they're pretty strict about it. I tried to claim good cause for quitting because my commute got longer when they moved offices and got denied. Apparently that's not enough reason.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Commute changes usually aren't considered good cause unless they're extreme (like doubling your commute time) or create genuine hardship. Harassment and wage theft are much stronger grounds.
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Emma Garcia
Document everything but also look for another job while you're still employed if possible. Even if you get unemployment, it's not going to be your full salary and the approval process can take weeks.
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Nia Thompson
•I've been looking but the job market is pretty rough right now. That's part of why I'm scared to quit without unemployment as backup.
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Ava Kim
just quit if its that bad for your mental health!!! money isnt everything and you can always figure it out later
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Nia Thompson
•I appreciate the sentiment but I have rent and bills to pay. I need to be strategic about this.
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Ethan Anderson
•Being strategic is smart. Mental health is important but so is having a roof over your head.
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Layla Mendes
File your claim immediately after you quit, don't wait. Even if you're not sure you'll qualify, get the process started. Washington ESD can take forever to process claims and you want to get in the queue ASAP.
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Nia Thompson
•Good point, I'll file the same day if I decide to go through with quitting.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
One more thing - when you have your phone interview or hearing, be prepared to explain exactly why continuing to work was impossible. Not just unpleasant, but genuinely impossible for a reasonable person. That's the standard Washington ESD uses.
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Nia Thompson
•That's helpful framing. The unpaid overtime plus verbal abuse definitely makes it feel impossible to continue there.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
•Exactly - frame it as the employer creating conditions that left you no reasonable choice but to quit. That's the language Washington ESD understands.
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Aria Park
Update us on what you decide to do! This thread has been really informative and I bet other people in similar situations would want to know how it turns out.
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Nia Thompson
•Will do! I'm going to spend this weekend documenting everything and maybe talk to a lawyer if I can find one who does free consultations. Thanks everyone for all the advice.
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Ravi Kapoor
honestly the system is so messed up, I know people who got fired for cause and still got benefits while others who had legitimate reasons for quitting got denied. seems like it depends on who reviews your case
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Paolo Esposito
•While there can be some inconsistency, Washington ESD does have specific guidelines they're supposed to follow. Having good documentation really does make a difference in the outcome.
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Ravi Kapoor
•maybe but ive seen too many cases where it seemed random. the whole system needs an overhaul
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Oliver Weber
Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr thing I mentioned earlier - I used them again last week when I had questions about my weekly claim and got through to someone in like 15 minutes instead of spending all day calling. Really makes a difference when you need to talk to Washington ESD about complex situations like voluntary quits.
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Keisha Brown
•That's good to know. I might need something like that if I end up having to appeal a decision.
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Freya Nielsen
•I'm always skeptical of these third-party services but if it actually works that's pretty useful.
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Omar Mahmoud
Make sure you understand that even if you get approved for unemployment after quitting, your employer might contest it. That could lead to additional hearings and delays in getting your benefits.
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Keisha Brown
•I hadn't thought about that. My employer would probably fight it since they wouldn't want their unemployment insurance rates to go up.
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Omar Mahmoud
•Exactly. And if they contest it, you might have to wait even longer for a final decision. Just something to factor into your planning.
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Chloe Harris
Look into constructive dismissal too. Sometimes if working conditions are bad enough, it's considered like being forced to quit, which is different from voluntary quitting in Washington ESD's eyes.
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Keisha Brown
•I've never heard of that term. How do you prove constructive dismissal?
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Chloe Harris
•You have to show that your employer made working conditions so intolerable that any reasonable person would have been forced to quit. It's a higher bar than regular good cause.
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Diego Vargas
Whatever you decide, start looking for a new job now while you still have income. The job market is tough and unemployment benefits won't replace your full salary even if you do get approved.
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Keisha Brown
•Good advice. I've actually been quietly job hunting for a few weeks now. Just trying to figure out if I should quit before I find something else.
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Diego Vargas
•If you can stick it out until you find something else, that's usually the safer option financially. But I understand sometimes the situation becomes unbearable.
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NeonNinja
I went through this exact situation 2 years ago. Quit due to harassment, got denied initially, appealed, and eventually won. The key was having everything documented and being persistent with the appeal process. Used one of those services to help get through to Washington ESD when I needed to provide additional information.
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Keisha Brown
•That gives me some hope. How long did the whole process take from quit to first benefit payment?
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NeonNinja
•About 4 months total, but that included the initial denial, appeal, and employer contest. It was stressful but worth it in the end since I had a legitimate case.
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Anastasia Popov
Don't forget you'll also need to meet the job search requirements even if you get approved for benefits after quitting. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week, so make sure you're prepared for that.
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Keisha Brown
•Thanks for the reminder. I assume applying for jobs counts as one of the activities?
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Anastasia Popov
•Yes, applying for jobs counts, but there are other activities too like networking events, career fairs, skills training, etc. They want to see you're actively looking.
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Sean Murphy
Just want to add that if you do quit and apply for benefits, keep detailed records of everything - when you filed, who you talked to, what documents you submitted. The process can be confusing and having your own records helps.
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Keisha Brown
•That's really practical advice. I'm definitely going to start a file with all this information if I go through with it.
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Sean Murphy
•Smart move. Also take screenshots of your online account status and save any emails from Washington ESD. You'll be glad you did if there are any disputes later.
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Keisha Brown
Thanks everyone for all the advice and sharing your experiences. This has been really helpful in understanding what I might be getting into. I think I'm going to document everything for another week or two, talk to a lawyer, and then make a decision. At least now I know what to expect if I do end up quitting and applying for benefits.
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Paolo Esposito
•Sounds like a solid plan. Good luck with whatever you decide to do, and remember that even if the process is challenging, you have rights as an employee.
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Oliver Weber
•Feel free to post an update if you go through with it. Your experience could help others in similar situations.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Wishing you the best. Work situations like that are really tough, but there are options available if you document everything properly.
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Isaac Wright
Another vote for that Claimyr service if you do end up filing. I was skeptical at first but it really did help me reach a Washington ESD rep who could walk through my good cause documentation. Sometimes you need to actually speak with someone to explain your situation properly.
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Nina Chan
•How much does something like that cost? I'm already tight on money if I'm thinking about quitting.
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Isaac Wright
•I don't remember the exact cost but it was worth it to actually get through to someone instead of calling hundreds of times myself. Check out their site for current pricing.
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Ruby Knight
The scheduling thing might actually work in your favor if you can show it's a significant change from when you were hired. Especially if it's affecting your ability to find other work or causing financial hardship.
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Jade Lopez
•That's a good point about it affecting my ability to find other work. The random schedule makes it hard to interview anywhere else.
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Ruby Knight
•Exactly! That could be part of your good cause argument - that the schedule changes are preventing you from maintaining or seeking other employment.
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Diego Castillo
whatever you decide make sure you have at least some money saved up because even if they approve your claim it takes weeks to see any payments. learned that the hard way
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Jade Lopez
•How long was your waiting period? I have maybe 2 weeks of expenses saved.
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Diego Castillo
•mine was about 3 weeks from filing to first payment, but thats if everything goes smooth with no issues
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Yara Campbell
Final advice: before you quit, send your employer a written request to address the scheduling issues. Give them a reasonable timeframe to respond (like 1-2 weeks). If they don't address it adequately, you'll have documentation showing you tried to preserve your employment. This is crucial for a good cause claim.
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Jade Lopez
•Should I send this to my direct manager or HR? We don't really have a formal HR department.
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Yara Campbell
•Send it to whoever has the authority to make scheduling decisions. If it's your manager, send it to them but copy their supervisor if possible. Keep it professional and factual.
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Logan Stewart
•This is solid advice. The documentation piece is so important for these voluntary quit cases.
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Mikayla Brown
I work in HR and see these situations a lot. Most people don't realize they need to give their employer a chance to fix the problem before quitting. Document everything and communicate in writing when possible.
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Jade Lopez
•From an HR perspective, what would be the best way to approach my manager about this? I don't want to make things worse while I'm still working there.
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Mikayla Brown
•Be professional and focus on the business impact. Something like 'The inconsistent scheduling is making it difficult for me to manage my finances and plan my availability. Is there a way we can work toward a more predictable schedule?
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Sean Matthews
honestly the phone situation with washington esd is so bad that even if you have a valid claim youll spend forever trying to reach someone. that claimyr thing mentioned earlier might be worth looking into just for that reason alone
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Jade Lopez
•Yeah the phone issue is definitely concerning. I've heard horror stories about people never getting through.
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Sean Matthews
•exactly, and with a voluntary quit case you really need to talk to someone to explain your situation properly
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Ali Anderson
Keep in mind that even if you have good cause, Washington ESD might still initially deny your claim and you'd have to appeal. It's pretty common with voluntary quit cases. Don't give up if that happens.
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Jade Lopez
•How long does the appeal process typically take? I'm trying to plan out my finances.
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Ali Anderson
•Appeals can take 6-12 weeks depending on the backlog. That's why having some savings is really important if you're thinking about quitting.
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Jade Lopez
Thanks everyone for all the advice. I think I'm going to try the written request approach first and see if my employer will work with me on the scheduling. If not, at least I'll have the documentation I need if I decide to quit and file for benefits.
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Yara Campbell
•That's a smart approach. Good luck with your manager and remember to keep copies of everything.
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Isaac Wright
•Sounds like a good plan. And remember that Claimyr option if you do end up needing to contact Washington ESD later on.
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Tami Morgan
•Hope it works out better for you than it did for me. The documentation really is key.
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Amara Nnamani
Make sure you understand that even if you have good cause, you still need to be able and available for work and actively searching for new employment. Quitting doesn't change those requirements.
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NebulaNova
•So I'd still need to do job searches even though I quit my last job?
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Amara Nnamani
•Yes, you still need to complete your job search activities each week and be ready and willing to accept suitable work offers.
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Giovanni Mancini
This whole thread is giving me flashbacks to my own quit claim process. It's definitely not easy but if you legitimately had good cause and can prove it, don't be discouraged. The system is designed to help workers who are in genuinely bad situations.
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NebulaNova
•Thanks for the encouragement. I'm feeling a bit more confident about documenting everything properly now.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•Same here, I was worried I'd be stuck in a bad job forever but knowing there are options helps.
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Dylan Cooper
One more thing - if you do end up needing to file an appeal, don't try to represent yourself at the hearing without being prepared. You can bring a lawyer or union rep if you have one, or at least practice your testimony beforehand.
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NebulaNova
•Can I bring someone for moral support even if they're not a lawyer?
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Dylan Cooper
•I believe you can have someone there for support but check the hearing rules. The main thing is being organized and honest about your reasons for quitting.
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Sofia Morales
Also remember that Washington state is generally more worker-friendly than a lot of other states when it comes to voluntary quit claims. If you have legitimate good cause, you have a decent chance of approval as long as you follow the process correctly.
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NebulaNova
•That's reassuring to hear. I was worried I'd automatically be disqualified for quitting.
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StarSailor
•No, Washington ESD does approve voluntary quit claims when there's genuine good cause. The key is meeting their specific criteria and having proper documentation.
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Dmitry Ivanov
I hate that workers have to jump through so many hoops just to get benefits after leaving a toxic job. But at least Washington has better protections than most states. Document everything, be patient with the process, and don't be afraid to appeal if you get denied initially.
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NebulaNova
•Thank you everyone for all the advice. I feel much more prepared to handle this situation now.
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Ava Garcia
•Good luck! Remember that you deserve to work in a safe and respectful environment.
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Miguel Silva
One last tip - when you file your claim, be very detailed in your statement about why you quit. Don't just say 'hostile work environment' - explain specific incidents, dates, who was involved, what you did to try to resolve it, etc. The more specific you are, the better.
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NebulaNova
•Should I include everything or just the worst incidents?
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Miguel Silva
•Include enough detail to show a pattern of problems and that you tried to resolve them. Focus on the most serious incidents but mention that there were others to show it wasn't just one bad day.
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Zainab Ismail
For anyone else reading this who's in a similar situation - don't suffer in silence. Start documenting problems as soon as they happen, not just when you're ready to quit. It's much easier to build a case over time than to try to reconstruct everything after the fact.
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Connor O'Neill
•This is such good advice. I wish I had started keeping records earlier when I was dealing with harassment at my old job.
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QuantumQuester
•Same here. I learned the hard way that verbal complaints without documentation don't carry much weight in these situations.
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Yara Nassar
If anyone needs help actually getting through to talk to someone at Washington ESD about their voluntary quit situation, definitely check out Claimyr. I was stuck trying to get answers about my case for weeks until I used their service to connect with an actual person who could explain what documentation I needed.
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NebulaNova
•I might need to try that if I can't get through the regular way. The phone system is so frustrating.
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Keisha Williams
•Tell me about it. I spent more time on hold with ESD than I did at my actual job some weeks.
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Paolo Ricci
Final thought - even if your quit claim gets approved, remember that you might face additional scrutiny on your future claims if you ever need unemployment again. ESD keeps records of everything, so make sure this is genuinely your last resort and not just because you're unhappy at work.
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NebulaNova
•I didn't think about future claims. But honestly, the situation at work is affecting my mental health so badly that I don't think I have much choice.
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Amina Toure
•If it's genuinely affecting your health that badly, then you probably do have good cause. Just make sure you get medical documentation of how the work situation is impacting you.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
One more thing about Claimyr - if you end up in adjudication hell trying to reach someone about your quit claim, don't waste weeks on hold. That service got me through in under an hour when I needed to explain my situation to an adjudicator.
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Fatima Al-Rashid
•Is it safe to use? Seems too good to be true.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
•Totally legit. They just handle the calling part - you still talk directly to Washington ESD staff once connected.
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Giovanni Rossi
The moral of the story: don't quit unless you absolutely have to and you can prove it. The burden of proof is on you and Washington ESD doesn't make it easy.
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Natalie Khan
•Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to document everything and see if I can work with my employer first before making any decisions.
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Daryl Bright
•Smart approach. And remember, you can always consult with an employment attorney if things get really bad.
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Aaliyah Jackson
Also check if your company has an Employee Assistance Program (EAP). Sometimes they can help mediate workplace issues before you have to quit.
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Natalie Khan
•I'll look into that. Didn't even know that was a thing.
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Aaliyah Jackson
•Most bigger companies have them. It's free counseling and mediation services for employees.
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KylieRose
Hope it works out for you OP. Nobody should have to choose between their mental health and their financial security.
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Natalie Khan
•Thank you. This thread has been incredibly helpful.
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Sienna Gomez
•Feel free to update us on how things go. We're rooting for you!
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NightOwl42
Have you considered talking to an employment lawyer? A lot of them do free consultations and might be able to tell you if your situation would qualify for good cause. Could save you a lot of headache down the road.
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Yuki Watanabe
•I hadn't thought of that but it's a good idea. Probably worth the consultation fee to know where I stand.
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NightOwl42
•Many don't charge for initial consultations, especially for employment issues. Worth looking into.
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Sofia Rodriguez
Whatever you decide, don't rush into it. I quit a job in anger once and regretted it immediately. Try to have a plan and understand all your options first.
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Yuki Watanabe
•Yeah, I'm trying not to make an emotional decision. That's why I wanted to ask here first.
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Zoe Papadakis
Just to follow up on my earlier suggestion about Claimyr - I actually used them again recently when I had questions about my weekly claim. They're really helpful for getting actual answers from Washington ESD instead of just guessing about the rules. Worth considering especially for something this important.
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Dmitry Ivanov
•How much does something like that cost?
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Zoe Papadakis
•I'd rather not discuss pricing publicly, but check their website. For me it was worth it to get real answers instead of risking my benefits by guessing.
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Ava Thompson
The bottom line is Washington ESD will scrutinize any quit situation very carefully. Your employer will likely fight the claim and say you quit without good cause. Be prepared for that and have your evidence ready.
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Yuki Watanabe
•That's what I'm worried about. My boss would definitely fight it.
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Ava Thompson
•That's why documentation is so crucial. You need to be able to prove your side of the story.
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Miguel Herrera
I was in almost the exact same boat about 6 months ago. Ended up staying until I found another job, but I totally understand not being able to wait. Whatever you decide, make sure you're prepared for the possibility of a long fight with Washington ESD.
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Yuki Watanabe
•How did you handle the stress while looking for another job? I'm worried about my performance suffering.
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Miguel Herrera
•I basically just tried to keep my head down and do the minimum required. Started job searching during lunch breaks and after work.
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Zainab Ali
Remember that even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment, there might be other assistance programs available depending on your situation. Food assistance, utility help, etc. Don't forget to look into those if money gets tight.
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Yuki Watanabe
•Good point, I should research what else might be available. Thanks.
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Connor Murphy
Just want to echo what others have said about being thorough with documentation. I won my appeal largely because I had everything written down with dates and details. Washington ESD takes that stuff seriously.
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Yuki Watanabe
•I'm definitely going to start keeping better records of everything that happens.
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Carmen Sanchez
Final thought - if you do decide to quit, make sure you understand how it affects the timing of when you can file your claim. You want to file as soon as possible after your last day of work to avoid any delays in processing.
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Yuki Watanabe
•Thank you everyone for all the advice. I have a lot to think about but at least now I understand my options better.
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Carmen Sanchez
•Good luck with whatever you decide. Feel free to ask if you have more questions as you work through this.
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Giovanni Mancini
constructive dismissal is another thing to look into. if they make your job so intolerable that any reasonable person would quit, it can be treated like being fired rather than quitting voluntarily
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Zara Rashid
•How do you prove constructive dismissal? Is that easier than proving good cause?
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Giovanni Mancini
•still need documentation but the standard might be a little different. worth researching for your specific situation
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NebulaNinja
Whatever you decide, don't delay applying if you do quit. You want to get your claim in as soon as possible, even if you think it might be denied. The appeals process can take time and you want that clock ticking.
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Zara Rashid
•Good point. I guess there's no harm in applying and seeing what happens.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•Exactly. Better to try and get denied than not try at all. You might be surprised at what qualifies as good cause.
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Dylan Mitchell
The whole system seems designed to discourage people from applying. But if you really had good cause to quit, don't let that stop you. Know your rights and fight for them if necessary.
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Zara Rashid
•Thanks everyone. This has been really helpful. I think I have enough information now to make a decision about my situation.
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Sofia Morales
•Good luck with whatever you decide! The stress of a toxic workplace isn't worth your mental health.
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Rosie Harper
I had a friend who quit because her boss was sexually harassing her and she got approved for unemployment right away. But she had to file a complaint with the EEOC first I think.
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Dana Doyle
•That's good to know. My situation isn't sexual harassment but it's definitely creating a hostile work environment.
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Rosie Harper
•Document everything and maybe talk to an employment lawyer if you can afford it. Some offer free consultations.
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Khalid Howes
Why don't you try to get yourself fired instead? Then you'd definitely qualify for unemployment benefits.
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Liam Duke
•That's not a good strategy. If Washington ESD determines you were fired for misconduct, you'll be disqualified anyway. Plus it could affect future job prospects.
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Khalid Howes
•oh I didn't know they could still deny you if you got fired. thought that was automatic approval
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Rita Jacobs
Seriously though, if you're unsure about your specific situation, try to get through to an Washington ESD agent before you make any big decisions. That Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really helped me avoid making a costly mistake with my claim.
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Dana Doyle
•I might have to try that. The regular phone lines are always busy and I need to know where I stand before I do anything drastic.
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Elliott luviBorBatman
•Yeah I used claimyr too when I couldn't get through to ESD. Worth it to get real answers instead of guessing.
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Demi Hall
Whatever you decide, make sure you have some savings built up first. Even if you qualify for unemployment, there's usually a waiting period before benefits start.
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Dana Doyle
•How long is the waiting period typically?
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Demi Hall
•It varies but usually at least a week, sometimes longer if there are issues with your claim that need to be resolved.
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Mateusius Townsend
The whole good cause thing is so subjective though. What one person considers intolerable might not meet Washington ESD's standards. I've seen people get denied for what seemed like legitimate reasons.
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Liam Duke
•That's why documentation is so important. The more evidence you have, the stronger your case becomes.
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Mateusius Townsend
•True, but it's still a gamble. OP needs to be prepared for the possibility of denial.
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Kara Yoshida
honestly if your boss is that bad, other people have probably noticed too. see if any coworkers would be willing to back up your story if you need witnesses
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Dana Doyle
•That's a good point. A few other people have mentioned they don't like how he treats staff.
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Kara Yoshida
•just be careful about who you trust. you don't want word getting back to your boss before you're ready to make a move
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Philip Cowan
I'm going through something similar and it's so stressful. The not knowing if you'll qualify for benefits makes it even harder to leave a bad situation.
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Dana Doyle
•Exactly! It feels like being trapped between staying miserable or risking financial disaster.
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Philip Cowan
•Have you considered looking for another job first? Then you wouldn't need unemployment at all.
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Dana Doyle
•I've been trying but the job market is tough right now and I'm not sure how much longer I can deal with this situation.
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Ben Cooper
One more thing to consider - even if you don't initially qualify, you can always appeal the decision. The appeals process gives you another chance to present your case with additional evidence.
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Dana Doyle
•How long does the appeals process usually take?
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Ben Cooper
•It can take several weeks to a few months depending on the backlog. But if you win, you'll get retroactive benefits from when you first filed.
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Caesar Grant
Whatever you decide, don't quit impulsively. Take time to really think it through and maybe talk to someone you trust who knows your situation.
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Dana Doyle
•You're right. I've been so frustrated that I was ready to just walk out, but I need to be smarter about this.
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Caesar Grant
•It's understandable to feel that way when you're dealing with a toxic workplace. Just remember that a few weeks of planning could save you months of financial stress.
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Lena Schultz
Also check if your state has any worker protection laws that might apply to your situation. Sometimes there are additional protections beyond just the unemployment system.
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Dana Doyle
•Where would I look that up? I don't even know what to search for.
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Lena Schultz
•Try the Washington State Department of Labor & Industries website. They have information about workplace rights and protections.
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Dana Doyle
Thanks everyone for all the advice. Sounds like I need to start documenting everything and maybe talk to an Washington ESD agent before I make any decisions. This is more complicated than I thought it would be.
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Liam Duke
•You're making the right choice by researching this thoroughly. Better to be prepared than to quit impulsively and regret it later.
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Rita Jacobs
•Good luck with whatever you decide. And remember that Claimyr option if you need help getting through to ESD - sometimes talking to an actual person can really clarify things.
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Sean Doyle
If you do decide to move forward, make sure you file your claim immediately after quitting. Don't wait because that could affect your benefit start date.
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Chloe Anderson
•Is there a deadline for filing after you quit?
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Sean Doyle
•Not technically but the sooner the better. Your benefit year starts from when you file, not when you became unemployed.
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CosmicCruiser
honestly the whole system is rigged against workers anyway. they make it so hard to get benefits even when you deserve them
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Zara Rashid
•I understand the frustration, but the system does approve legitimate claims. Documentation and following the process correctly makes a big difference.
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Mateo Hernandez
Another option is to see if you can work out a layoff arrangement with your employer instead. Some companies will do this if they understand the situation.
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Chloe Anderson
•Interesting idea but I doubt my company would go for that given the hostile situation.
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Mateo Hernandez
•Worth exploring though, especially if HR is aware of the problems. Sometimes they prefer to avoid potential legal issues.
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Diego Vargas
Remember you'll also need to meet all the other requirements like actively seeking work and being available for employment even if your quit is approved.
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Chloe Anderson
•Right, I forgot about the job search requirements. How many applications do you need to submit per week?
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Diego Vargas
•It varies but typically 3 job search activities per week. Keep detailed records of everything you do.
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Aisha Khan
If you need to talk to Washington ESD about your specific situation, I had good luck with that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Saved me hours of being on hold.
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Chloe Anderson
•Several people have mentioned it now. Might be worth trying if I decide to move forward.
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Luca Romano
keep us updated on what you decide! this thread has been really helpful for my situation too
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Chloe Anderson
•Will do! Thanks everyone for the advice. At least I know what to prepare if I do decide to quit.
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Ethan Taylor
One more thing - if you do quit and file, be completely honest on your application about why you left. Trying to hide or misrepresent the reason will definitely hurt you later.
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Chloe Anderson
•Definitely planning to be completely honest. No point in making things worse by lying.
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Zara Rashid
Also worth consulting with an employment attorney if the harassment is severe. They might be able to help you understand all your options before you make a decision.
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Chloe Anderson
•That's probably smart given how complicated this all seems. I'll look into finding someone for a consultation.
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Nia Jackson
Whatever happens, don't let them push you into quitting without trying to resolve it first. Having that paper trail of attempting resolution is crucial for your UI claim.
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Chloe Anderson
•Good reminder. I'll make sure to document any further attempts to resolve this through proper channels.
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Sean Doyle
Last thought - even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment, there might be other resources available depending on your situation. Worth exploring all options.
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Chloe Anderson
•Thanks for all the help everyone. This has given me a lot to think about and a much better understanding of the process.
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Yuki Ito
Good luck with whatever you decide! The fact that you're thinking it through carefully and documenting everything puts you in a much better position than most people.
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Chloe Anderson
•Appreciate the encouragement. Definitely feeling more prepared now to make an informed decision.
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Max Reyes
Final advice - document everything going forward, try to resolve through official channels first, consult with an employment attorney if possible, and be prepared for a lengthy process. Washington ESD takes good cause claims seriously but they need solid evidence.
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Felicity Bud
•Thank you everyone for all the advice. I feel like I have a better plan now.
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Scarlett Forster
•Good luck! It's a tough situation but you deserve to work in a safe environment.
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Arnav Bengali
btw if you do quit and file make sure to keep doing your weekly claims even during adjudication or you'll lose benefits for those weeks
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Felicity Bud
•Even if I'm not getting paid yet?
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Arnav Bengali
•yes! you have to keep filing to maintain your claim. if you get approved you'll get backpay for those weeks
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Sayid Hassan
I used Claimyr too when I had issues. Worth it just to avoid the endless busy signals and dropped calls. Sometimes you really need to talk to a human about these complicated situations.
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Felicity Bud
•Did they help you get through to the right department?
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Sayid Hassan
•Yeah, they got me to someone who could actually answer my questions about my specific case instead of just general info.
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Rachel Tao
Whatever you decide, don't let them bully you into staying if it's genuinely affecting your health and well-being. There are protections in place for a reason.
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Felicity Bud
•Thank you. I think I've been minimizing how bad it's gotten.
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Derek Olson
Just remember that even with good cause, unemployment benefits are temporary. Use the time to find something better, not just to get away from your current job.
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Felicity Bud
•Absolutely. I'm viewing this as a chance to find a better situation overall.
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Danielle Mays
good thread, learned a lot. didn't know you could quit and still get benefits under certain circumstances
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Max Reyes
•It's not widely known but it's an important protection. Just has to be legitimate good cause with proper documentation.
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Roger Romero
•Same, thought quitting automatically disqualified you from unemployment.
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