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What reasons can you quit a job and still get unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm in a really toxic work situation where my supervisor has been creating a hostile environment and I'm wondering if I can quit and still qualify for unemployment through Washington ESD. I know generally you can't get benefits if you quit voluntarily, but I've heard there are some exceptions for good cause. Does anyone know what specific reasons Washington ESD considers valid for quitting and still getting UI benefits? My mental health is really suffering but I can't afford to quit without knowing I'll have some income.

Washington ESD does allow benefits for 'good cause' quits, but they're pretty strict about it. The main categories are: unsafe working conditions, harassment/discrimination, significant changes to your job (like major pay cuts or hour reductions), domestic violence situations, or medical issues that prevent you from doing the work. You need solid documentation though.

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What kind of documentation would I need for a hostile work environment? I've been keeping notes but nothing official.

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Email complaints to HR, witness statements, medical records if it's affecting your health, anything that shows you tried to resolve it internally first. Washington ESD wants to see you made reasonable efforts before quitting.

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Be really careful here. I quit what I thought was a 'good cause' situation and Washington ESD denied my claim initially. Had to go through a whole appeal process that took months. They investigate these cases thoroughly and the burden of proof is on you to show it was genuinely necessary to quit.

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Did you eventually win your appeal? What convinced them?

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Yes, but it took 4 months and I had to get a lawyer involved. I had medical documentation showing the stress was affecting my health and emails proving I'd tried to work with management.

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Yes, Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit for 'good cause' but it's pretty specific. The main reasons include: unsafe working conditions, harassment/discrimination, significant changes to your job duties or pay, domestic violence situations, or medical reasons. You'll need to document everything thoroughly because they will investigate your claim during adjudication.

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Thank you! What kind of documentation do I need for harassment? I have some emails but not sure if that's enough.

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Keep all emails, take screenshots, document dates and witnesses if possible. Also file complaints with HR if you haven't already - Washington ESD wants to see you tried to resolve it first.

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If you're dealing with harassment or discrimination, you should also file complaints with appropriate agencies before quitting. Washington ESD looks favorably on cases where you've documented the issue with EEOC or state civil rights office. Shows you exhausted other remedies first.

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Ev Luca

This is good advice. Also check if your company has an ethics hotline or ombudsman program. Using those channels can strengthen your case.

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I didn't know about the EEOC angle. That's really helpful, thank you.

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I quit my last job due to hostile work environment and got approved for benefits after a 6-week adjudication process. The key is proving you had no reasonable alternative but to quit. Washington ESD will contact your employer so make sure your story is consistent and well-documented.

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Six weeks is a long time to wait! Did you have any income during adjudication?

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No income during adjudication unfortunately. If you're approved they backdate the payments, but you have to survive that waiting period somehow.

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I actually used Claimyr last year when I was dealing with a complicated quit situation and needed to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my eligibility. The regular phone lines were impossible to get through, but Claimyr got me connected to an actual agent who could review my specific circumstances. Worth checking out at claimyr.com if you need to discuss your situation before making a decision.

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How much does that service cost? I'm already stressed about money.

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It's reasonable considering the alternative of losing months of benefits. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that explains how it works. For me it was worth it to get clarity before I quit.

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Just so you know, the burden of proof is on you to show good cause. Washington ESD starts with the assumption that voluntary quits don't qualify. I'd suggest trying claimyr.com if you need to talk to an actual ESD agent about your specific situation - they have a system that helps you get through the phone lines. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks but can never get through.

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Yeah that's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr - saves you from sitting on hold for hours or getting disconnected.

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honestly the system is so messed up, they make it nearly impossible to prove good cause even when you have legitimate reasons. i had to quit because my boss was literally screaming at me daily and they still denied my initial claim

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Did you document the incidents? Verbal abuse can definitely be good cause but you need evidence.

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i had some emails and my coworkers saw it happening but getting them to provide statements was another nightmare

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Medical reasons are actually one of the stronger good cause categories if you can get your doctor to document that your job was making a condition worse or that you physically couldn't perform the duties anymore. Just saying you were stressed isn't enough though - needs to be specific medical documentation.

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That's actually relevant to my situation. The stress has been giving me panic attacks. Should I see a doctor before I quit?

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Absolutely. Get it documented now while you're still working. The doctor needs to state that continuing the job would be detrimental to your health.

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Ev Luca

Don't forget about constructive dismissal situations too. If your employer makes your working conditions so unreasonable that any reasonable person would quit, that can qualify. Things like sudden schedule changes that make it impossible to work, major pay cuts, or transferring you to a position you're not qualified for.

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They did change my schedule recently to nights without asking, but I'm not sure if that's enough.

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Ev Luca

If it's a significant change that wasn't in your original job description and affects your ability to work, that could be good cause. Document everything about the change.

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what about if they cut your hours dramatically? my employer reduced me from full time to like 10 hours a week and i cant live on that

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Significant reduction in hours can qualify as good cause for quitting, especially if it's more than 25% reduction. You might also qualify for partial unemployment benefits while still working those 10 hours.

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oh really? i didnt know about partial benefits. how does that work exactly?

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You can work part-time and still collect some unemployment if your weekly earnings are less than your weekly benefit amount plus $5. Washington ESD has a calculator on their site.

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Another thing to consider - if you quit without good cause, you're disqualified until you work and earn at least 7 times your weekly benefit amount. That's a significant penalty, so make sure you have a solid case before you quit.

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I didn't know about that 7 times rule. That's a lot of money to earn before becoming eligible again.

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Yeah it's brutal. I made that mistake and had to work part-time for months before I could file again when I got laid off from my next job.

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Safety issues are taken very seriously by Washington ESD. If your workplace has genuine safety hazards and you've reported them but nothing was done, that's usually good cause. OSHA violations, inadequate safety equipment, being asked to do dangerous work without proper training - all potential good cause scenarios.

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This saved me when I quit a construction job. Boss kept asking us to work without proper fall protection even after I filed an OSHA complaint.

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Exactly. Having that OSHA complaint on record probably made your case much stronger.

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Domestic violence situations are also recognized as good cause, and Washington state has pretty good protections for DV survivors. If you're leaving because of safety concerns related to domestic violence, there are special provisions that can help with eligibility.

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That's not my situation but good to know that protection exists for people who need it.

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Washington is actually one of the better states for DV-related unemployment protections. They understand that sometimes people have to quit suddenly for safety reasons.

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The Washington ESD website lists all the good cause reasons but they're pretty strict about it. Medical reasons need doctor documentation, harassment needs proof, unsafe conditions need OSHA complaints or similar. Don't quit without building your case first or you'll likely get denied.

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Good point about building the case first. I'm going to start documenting everything more carefully before I make any decisions.

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I tried to quit for hostile work environment last year and got denied. Apparently my supervisor being a jerk wasn't enough even though I had witnesses. Washington ESD said I should have tried transferring departments first.

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That's frustrating! Did you appeal the decision?

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Yeah I appealed and lost. The hearing officer said I didn't exhaust all reasonable alternatives before quitting.

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This is why documentation is so important - you need to show you tried every reasonable option to fix the situation before quitting.

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Domestic violence is one of the clearest good cause reasons. If that's part of your situation, Washington ESD has special protections and you don't need as much documentation. They have a specific form for DV situations.

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Thank you for mentioning that. It's good to know they have protections for people in those situations.

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I mentioned Claimyr earlier, but seriously, if you're on the fence about whether your situation qualifies, talking to an actual Washington ESD representative before you quit could save you a lot of headaches. The automated system can't give you the nuanced advice you need for a good cause determination.

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How quickly can they usually get you through to someone? The few times I've tried calling Washington ESD directly I've been on hold for hours.

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Much faster than trying to call directly. They know how to navigate the system and get you connected to the right department.

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whatever you do, keep EVERYTHING documented. dates, times, witnesses, emails, texts, everything. washington esd will want to see proof of every single thing you claim happened

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I'm starting to think I should have been documenting things better from the beginning.

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start now if you haven't already. even if you decide not to quit, having that documentation protects you

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whatever you do dont just quit without filing for unemployment immediately after. you only have a limited time to file your claim or you lose benefits even if you had good cause

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How long do you have to file after quitting?

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You should file your claim as soon as possible after your last day of work. There's no specific deadline but delays can hurt your case and you lose money.

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Another option if you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD by phone is using that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. I used it when my claim was stuck in adjudication and finally got to talk to someone who could explain exactly what documentation they needed for my good cause quit.

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Is there a cost for that service? Seems too good to be true.

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There is a fee but honestly it was worth it to actually get through and get answers instead of calling 50 times a day for weeks.

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One more thing - if you do quit for good cause, apply for benefits immediately. Don't wait thinking you need to find another job first. The clock starts ticking on your benefit year, and delays can complicate your case.

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Good point. I was thinking I should try to find something else first, but that could hurt me later.

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Exactly. File as soon as you quit and let them determine if it was good cause. You can always withdraw the claim if you find work quickly.

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Been through this process twice now - once successfully, once not. The key difference was documentation. First time I had everything organized and ready. Second time I relied too much on verbal complaints and hearsay. Learn from my mistakes.

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What kind of organization worked best for presenting your case?

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Chronological timeline with supporting documents for each incident. Made it easy for the adjudicator to follow the pattern of problems.

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Ev Luca

Don't overlook wage and hour violations either. If your employer has been consistently violating labor laws - not paying overtime, requiring unpaid work, not providing required breaks - that can build a good cause case, especially if you've documented your complaints.

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I had a case like this. Boss kept scheduling me for 50+ hour weeks but found ways to avoid paying overtime. Department of Labor complaint helped my unemployment case.

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Ev Luca

Perfect example. Having that official complaint on record strengthens your position significantly.

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Just want to echo what others have said about the appeal process. Even if you get denied initially, don't give up if you truly believe you had good cause. I've seen cases get overturned on appeal with better documentation and legal help.

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How long does the appeal process usually take?

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Can vary a lot. Mine took about 6 weeks for the first level appeal, but some take months depending on the backlog.

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Check if your situation might qualify under family and medical leave protections too. If you need to quit to care for a family member or for your own serious health condition, there might be overlap between FMLA protections and unemployment good cause rules.

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That's not my current situation, but good to know these protections exist.

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Yeah, a lot of people don't realize how these different employment laws can work together to protect workers in difficult situations.

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Final thought - consider consulting with an employment attorney before you quit if the situation is complex. Many offer free consultations and can help you understand both your quit options and potential legal remedies. Sometimes there are better solutions than quitting.

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That's actually a really good idea. I hadn't considered that there might be legal options I'm not aware of.

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Employment lawyers often know the ins and outs of good cause determinations too. They deal with these cases regularly.

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Whatever you decide, just remember that Washington ESD errs on the side of caution with good cause quits. They'd rather deny a claim and have you appeal than approve something that might not meet the criteria. Don't take an initial denial personally - it's just how the system works.

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That's actually reassuring to know. I was worried that a denial would be the end of it.

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Nope, the appeal process exists for exactly these situations. Just be prepared for it to take time and effort.

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One last plug for getting professional help navigating this - whether it's through Claimyr to talk to Washington ESD directly, or through an employment attorney, or both. This isn't the kind of decision you want to make based on forum advice alone, even though everyone here has been really helpful.

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You're absolutely right. I think I need to talk to actual professionals before I make any decisions. Thank you everyone for all the advice - this has been incredibly helpful in understanding what I'm facing.

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Good luck with whatever you decide. Just remember to document everything and don't quit impulsively. Take time to build your case properly.

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Medical reasons for quitting can include both physical and mental health issues, but you need solid documentation from healthcare providers. Just saying you're stressed won't cut it - you need medical records showing the work situation was affecting your health.

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That's really helpful to know. I have been seeing a therapist about work stress so maybe that could help document things.

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Definitely get a letter from your therapist documenting how the work environment is impacting your mental health. That could be crucial for your case.

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Just quit my job last week for good cause (unsafe working conditions) and I'm nervous about the adjudication process. How long does it typically take for Washington ESD to make a decision?

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Good cause determinations usually take 2-6 weeks depending on how complex your case is and how much investigation they need to do.

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Thanks, I guess I'll need to be patient. At least I documented everything thoroughly before I quit.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!!! I had perfect documentation of harassment and they still denied me. The adjudicator obviously just believed whatever lies my employer told them.

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I'm sorry that happened to you. Did you try appealing to a higher level?

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Yeah I went all the way to the Board of Appeals and lost there too. Wasted months of my life fighting it.

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For anyone considering this path - make sure you understand that even if you win, there will be a significant delay before you see any money. Plan accordingly because the adjudication process isn't quick.

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Good point about planning for the delay. I'll need to figure out how to cover expenses during that time.

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I successfully got benefits after quitting due to schedule changes that made it impossible to arrange childcare. The key was showing that I tried to work with my employer to find a solution first. Washington ESD approved it pretty quickly once they saw I'd made good faith efforts.

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That's encouraging! It sounds like showing you tried to work things out is really important.

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Exactly - they want to see you didn't just quit impulsively but actually tried to resolve the issues first.

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used claimyr twice now when i needed to get through to ESD and it works great. saved me so much time and frustration trying to call on my own

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Good to hear another positive review. I think I'm going to try it if I can't get through on my own.

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Don't forget that if you quit for good cause, you still have to meet all the other unemployment requirements like job searching and being available for work. The good cause just gets you past the voluntary quit issue.

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Right, I'd still need to do weekly claims and job searches. Thanks for the reminder.

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wage theft or not getting paid can also be good cause for quitting. had an employer who kept 'forgetting' to pay me and ESD approved my claim after I quit

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That's definitely something that should qualify! Glad you got approved.

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Whatever you decide, make sure you file your weekly claims even during adjudication. If you get approved they'll backdate the payments, but if you don't file the weekly claims you lose those weeks forever.

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Thanks for that tip! I didn't realize you had to keep filing even during adjudication.

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Yes, always keep filing your weekly claims no matter what's happening with your case. It's the only way to preserve those benefit weeks.

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The bottom line is Washington ESD takes good cause quits seriously but the bar is pretty high. Make sure you have solid documentation and exhaust other options first. It's definitely possible to get approved but you need to build a strong case.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice! I feel much more informed about my options now.

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