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Washington ESD unemployment after quitting - when can you collect benefits?

I'm in a really toxic work situation and thinking about quitting my job, but I need to know if I can still collect unemployment benefits through Washington ESD afterward. I've heard conflicting information about whether you can get UI if you voluntarily quit. Does anyone know the rules for Washington state? Are there certain circumstances where quitting still qualifies you for benefits?

Generally speaking, if you quit voluntarily you won't qualify for Washington ESD unemployment benefits. However, there are exceptions for 'good cause' situations like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties or pay. You'd need to prove the circumstances that forced you to quit.

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What counts as 'good cause' exactly? My supervisor has been making my life miserable but I'm not sure if that's enough.

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Documentation is key - save emails, write down incidents with dates. Harassment, discrimination, or creating an intolerable work environment can qualify as good cause.

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I actually quit my job last year due to a hostile work environment and was approved for Washington ESD benefits after an initial denial. The key is having solid documentation and being prepared to appeal if they deny you initially. The adjudication process took about 3 weeks, but I eventually got approved.

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That's encouraging! Did you have to go through a hearing or just submit documentation?

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Just submitted documentation initially. They interviewed me and my former employer by phone, then made their decision. No formal hearing needed.

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How long did the whole process take from filing to getting your first payment?

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Be careful about quitting without having another job lined up. Even if you think you have good cause, Washington ESD might deny your claim and then you're stuck with no income and no benefits. Have you considered talking to HR about the situation first?

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HR is part of the problem unfortunately. They've basically told me to deal with it.

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That's actually more evidence for your case if you do quit. HR failing to address workplace issues can support a good cause claim.

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Thanks, I'll check that out. I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days with no luck.

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Never heard of that service but if it helps get through to ESD it might be worth it. Their phone lines are impossible.

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What specific circumstances are you dealing with? Some situations clearly qualify as good cause while others are more borderline. Things like safety violations, illegal activities, or discrimination are pretty clear-cut.

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It's mostly verbal harassment and being singled out unfairly. My supervisor yells at me in front of other employees and gives me impossible deadlines.

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That could definitely qualify as creating a hostile work environment. Make sure you document everything - dates, witnesses, what was said.

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Have you tried recording any of these interactions? Washington is a two-party consent state though so be careful about that.

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I quit my job two months ago thinking I had good cause but Washington ESD denied my claim. Now I'm appealing but it's taking forever. The whole system is so slow and frustrating.

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What was their reason for denying you? I'm worried the same thing will happen to me.

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They said I didn't provide enough evidence that quitting was necessary. Apparently my word against my employer's wasn't enough.

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That's why documentation is so crucial. Without paper trails or witnesses, it becomes he-said-she-said.

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Just so you know, if you do quit and file for unemployment, your employer will be notified and they can contest your claim. Be prepared for them to fight it, especially if they think you're just trying to get benefits after quitting.

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I figured they would contest it. That's part of why I'm trying to get all my facts straight first.

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Most employers do contest quit claims automatically. It's just business to them, nothing personal.

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Have you looked into constructive dismissal? If your employer is making your work conditions so bad that a reasonable person would feel forced to quit, that's basically the same as being fired from a legal standpoint.

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I haven't heard of that term before. How do you prove constructive dismissal?

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You need to show that your employer deliberately made conditions intolerable to force you out. It's a higher bar than just regular good cause for quitting.

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Constructive dismissal is definitely harder to prove but if you can establish it, you'd be treated like you were terminated rather than quit voluntarily.

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Whatever you do, don't just walk out without giving notice. That will definitely hurt your case if you try to claim benefits later. Follow proper procedures even if your employer doesn't deserve it.

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Good point. I was thinking about just leaving but you're right that proper notice is probably important.

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Two weeks notice is standard but check your employee handbook for company policy on resignations.

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I used to work for Washington ESD and I can tell you they take quit cases very seriously. They'll investigate thoroughly and interview both you and your employer. Make sure you have a solid case before you file because appeals take months.

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That's really helpful insight. What kind of evidence do they find most convincing in quit cases?

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Written documentation like emails, witness statements, and evidence you tried to resolve the issue before quitting. They want to see you made reasonable efforts first.

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How common is it for quit claims to get approved? Just curious about the odds.

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Make sure you understand that even if you get approved, there might be a waiting period before benefits start. Washington ESD sometimes imposes waiting weeks for quit cases even when they approve them.

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I didn't know about waiting periods. How long are they usually?

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Can be anywhere from 1-10 weeks depending on the circumstances. It's part of the penalty for voluntary separation even with good cause.

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honestly the whole unemployment system is rigged against workers. they make it so hard to get benefits even when you genuinely need help. i'd say quit if you need to for your mental health and deal with the consequences later.

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That's terrible advice. OP needs to think this through carefully because unemployment benefits might be their only safety net.

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sometimes your sanity is worth more than worrying about bureaucratic hoops. just my opinion.

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Before you quit, have you considered filing complaints with other agencies? OSHA for safety issues, EEOC for discrimination, or L&I for workplace violations? Sometimes that creates a paper trail that helps with unemployment claims later.

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I hadn't thought about filing with other agencies first. That's a really good idea.

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Yeah, having official complaints on file definitely strengthens your case that the situation was genuinely intolerable.

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If you do decide to file after quitting, be prepared for a long process. I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and it's been 6 weeks since I filed with no resolution. The adjudication process for quit cases takes forever.

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Six weeks with no income sounds terrifying. Do you have any other support while you wait?

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Luckily I have some savings but it's running out fast. Really regretting not having a backup plan.

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Have you tried using Claimyr to check on your claim status? Sometimes talking to an actual ESD agent can speed things up or at least give you an update.

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One thing nobody mentioned - if you quit for good cause and get approved, you still have to meet all the regular requirements like job searching and being available for work. Don't think it's just free money once approved.

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Right, I know about the job search requirements. At least that part would be the same as if I got laid off.

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And you have to report any severance pay or unused vacation time they pay out when you quit. That can affect your benefits timing.

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My advice is to consult with an employment lawyer before making any decisions. Many offer free consultations and can tell you if your situation qualifies as good cause. Better to know for sure than gamble with your financial security.

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I hadn't thought about talking to a lawyer first. Do you know if that's expensive?

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Many employment lawyers work on contingency or offer low-cost consultations. Some legal aid organizations also help with workplace issues for free.

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Washington State Bar Association has a lawyer referral service that might help you find someone affordable.

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Update us on what you decide to do! I'm in a similar situation and really curious how cases like this turn out. Good luck with whatever you choose.

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Thanks, I will definitely update once I figure out my next steps. This thread has been really helpful.

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Same here, following this thread because I might be in the same boat soon. Workplace toxicity is so common these days.

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Just remember that even if your claim gets denied initially, you can appeal. Don't give up after the first rejection because a lot of quit cases get approved on appeal once all the facts come out during the hearing process.

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That's reassuring to know. I was worried that a denial would be final.

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Appeals definitely happen but they can take months. Make sure you have financial backup if you go that route.

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That's another situation where Claimyr might help - they can connect you with ESD agents to check on appeal status and get updates on timing.

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Bottom line - if you have legitimate good cause like harassment, unsafe conditions, or illegal activity, you have a decent shot at getting benefits. But if it's just because you don't like your job or boss, you probably won't qualify. Make sure your situation truly meets the legal standard.

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That makes sense. I think my situation might qualify but I need to document everything better before making any moves.

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Smart approach. Take time to build your case properly rather than rushing into anything you might regret.

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