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Saanvi Krishnaswami

Can you draw unemployment if you resign from a job in Washington state?

I'm thinking about quitting my current position because of some workplace issues but I'm worried about being able to collect unemployment benefits afterwards. Does Washington ESD allow you to get UI benefits if you voluntarily resign? I've heard conflicting information from coworkers and want to know what the actual rules are before I make this decision. My financial situation isn't great so I need to understand my options.

Generally speaking, if you quit your job voluntarily in Washington, you're not eligible for unemployment benefits. Washington ESD requires you to be unemployed through no fault of your own. However, there are some exceptions for 'good cause' situations like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties or pay.

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What exactly counts as 'good cause'? My supervisor has been making the work environment pretty hostile lately.

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I quit my job last year due to harassment and still got denied by Washington ESD. They said I didn't document it properly.

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You need to be very careful here. Washington ESD is strict about voluntary quits. The burden of proof is on you to show you had good cause. This means things like documented unsafe conditions, illegal activities by your employer, domestic violence situations, or major changes to your job that weren't part of your original agreement. Just being unhappy with your boss usually isn't enough.

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So I should document everything before I quit? What kind of documentation do they want to see?

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Yes, document everything. Emails, written complaints to HR, witness statements, photos of unsafe conditions, medical records if applicable. Washington ESD will want concrete evidence.

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I had to quit my job last month because of a family emergency and Washington ESD denied my claim initially. I'm currently appealing it but the process is taking forever. Has anyone had success getting through to Washington ESD to explain their situation? I've been trying to call for weeks but can never get past the busy signal.

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I was in a similar boat trying to reach Washington ESD about my quit situation. Someone here mentioned using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual agent. They have this video demo (https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ) that shows how it works. Basically they handle the calling and waiting for you so you can actually talk to someone at Washington ESD about your specific circumstances.

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DONT QUIT unless you absolutely have to! Washington ESD will almost always deny you if you voluntarily leave. I learned this the hard way and ended up with no income for months while fighting the decision.

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What if the job is affecting my mental health? Does that count as good cause?

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Mental health can be good cause if you have medical documentation showing the job was directly causing or worsening a condition. You'd need a doctor's statement typically.

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I quit my retail job because they kept scheduling me outside my availability and Washington ESD still denied me. They said I should have tried harder to work it out with management first. The whole system seems designed to deny claims.

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Did you file any written complaints about the scheduling issues before quitting? Washington ESD wants to see that you made good faith efforts to resolve problems.

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No, it was all verbal complaints to my manager. I didn't think to put anything in writing.

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This is all really helpful but also kind of scary. It sounds like quitting is basically a guarantee that I won't get benefits unless I have rock-solid documentation of serious problems.

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That's essentially correct. Washington ESD errs on the side of caution with voluntary quits. If you're considering quitting, talk to an employment attorney first if possible.

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Or try to get laid off instead if the company is having issues. I know it sounds bad but if you're planning to leave anyway...

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What about constructive dismissal? If they make working conditions so bad that any reasonable person would quit, doesn't that count as being forced out?

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Constructive dismissal is recognized by Washington ESD but it's very hard to prove. You need to show the employer deliberately made conditions intolerable to force you out.

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How do you prove that though? It seems like it would just be my word against theirs.

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I successfully got benefits after quitting due to sexual harassment at work. The key was having everything documented - dates, witnesses, emails to HR, and their inadequate response. Washington ESD approved my claim but it took about 6 weeks of back and forth.

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That's encouraging to hear someone actually succeeded. Did you have to appeal or did they approve it initially?

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They denied it initially, then I appealed with all my documentation and won at the hearing level.

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been trying to get info about my quit situation from Washington ESD for 3 weeks now, phone system is impossible. might try that claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier

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I used Claimyr last month when I couldn't get through to Washington ESD about my disqualification. Worth the try when you're desperate to talk to someone who can actually help.

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What about if you quit for a better job but then that job falls through? Like if you give notice and then the new employer rescinds the offer?

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That's still considered a voluntary quit by Washington ESD. You chose to leave your job, even if the new opportunity didn't work out. They typically don't consider that good cause.

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That seems really unfair but I guess I understand their logic.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation where I need to quit due to my spouse's job relocation. Does anyone know if that counts as good cause for Washington ESD?

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Spouse job relocation can be good cause in Washington if the distance makes commuting impractical. You'll need documentation of the spouse's job transfer and proof of the distance.

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My friend got benefits for this exact situation but had to provide her husband's transfer letter and show it was more than reasonable commuting distance.

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Does Washington ESD have any kind of waiting period if you do quit for good cause? Like even if they approve it, do you have to wait longer to start getting benefits?

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If Washington ESD determines you had good cause for quitting, you're treated the same as someone who was laid off. No additional waiting periods beyond the normal one week waiting period.

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I quit my job 2 months ago because of unsafe working conditions and I'm still fighting Washington ESD on it. The appeals process is taking forever and I'm running out of savings. This system is broken.

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The appeals process is ridiculously slow. I waited 3 months for my hearing date. Have you tried getting help from a legal aid organization?

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If you haven't been able to get through to Washington ESD to check on your appeal status, that Claimyr service might help. I know several people who used it to get updates on their pending appeals.

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Bottom line - don't quit unless you absolutely have to and can prove good cause. Washington ESD makes it really hard to get benefits after a voluntary quit, even when you have legitimate reasons.

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Yeah I'm getting that message loud and clear. Looks like I need to either document everything thoroughly or try to stick it out until I find another job.

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Xan Dae

Smart choice. Even with good cause it's an uphill battle with Washington ESD.

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What if you quit because of reduced hours? Like if they cut you from full time to part time without your agreement?

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Significant reduction in hours or pay can be good cause for quitting if it wasn't part of your original job agreement. You'd need to show it was a substantial change that affected your ability to make a living.

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I quit due to childcare issues when my employer changed my schedule with no notice. Washington ESD denied me initially but I won on appeal. The key was showing I made efforts to find alternative childcare but couldn't.

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How long did the whole appeal process take from start to finish?

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About 4 months total. The hearing was about 2 months after I filed the appeal, then another month for the written decision.

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Has anyone tried the Claimyr service that was mentioned? I'm skeptical but desperate to get through to Washington ESD about my quit situation.

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I was skeptical too but it actually worked. Got connected to an Washington ESD agent within a few hours instead of spending weeks trying to call myself. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person to explain your circumstances.

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That's reassuring. I'll check out their demo video and see if it's worth trying.

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The whole system is set up to make you give up. I've been fighting a quit disqualification for 5 months now and I'm about ready to just find any job I can get.

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Don't give up if you truly had good cause. I know it's exhausting but sometimes persistence pays off with Washington ESD.

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Have you considered getting legal help? Some employment attorneys will work on contingency for unemployment appeals.

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Thanks everyone for all the detailed responses. This has been really eye-opening about how strict Washington ESD is with voluntary quits. I think I need to really document my situation thoroughly before making any decisions.

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Good call. Documentation is everything when it comes to proving good cause to Washington ESD. Take photos, save emails, get witness statements - whatever applies to your situation.

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And remember, even if you don't think you have good cause, you can still apply. Worst case they deny you and you're in the same position as if you didn't apply at all.

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