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Makayla Shoemaker

Washington ESD unemployment benefits after resigning - do I qualify?

I'm thinking about quitting my job due to some serious workplace issues but I'm scared I won't be able to get unemployment benefits. Does Washington ESD allow you to collect UI if you resign? I've heard conflicting information and don't want to make a mistake that leaves me with no income. My manager has been creating a hostile work environment and I'm at my breaking point but I need to know if I can still file for benefits before I make this decision.

Generally speaking, if you quit voluntarily, Washington ESD will deny your claim unless you can prove you had 'good cause' for leaving. Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or substantial changes to your job duties. You'll need documentation to support your case.

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What kind of documentation would I need? I have some emails from my manager but not sure if that's enough.

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Emails are good, but also try to get written complaints you filed with HR, witness statements from coworkers, any company policies that were violated, or medical documentation if the stress affected your health.

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I resigned last year and got approved for benefits but it took forever. Washington ESD put my claim into adjudication for like 6 weeks while they investigated whether I had good cause. The wait was brutal but I eventually got approved.

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Six weeks?! That's terrifying. How did you survive financially during that time?

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It was rough. I had to borrow money from family. The backpay helped once it came through but those weeks were really stressful.

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If you're dealing with a hostile work environment, you might want to try calling Washington ESD directly to discuss your specific situation before you quit. I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) to actually get through to someone at Washington ESD - they have this system that calls you back when an agent is available instead of you sitting on hold forever. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. It was really helpful to get direct advice about my situation.

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That's interesting, I didn't know there was a service to help get through to Washington ESD. The phone lines are always busy when I try to call.

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Wait, you have to pay for that service though right? Seems like Washington ESD should just answer their phones.

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Yeah I agree they should, but when you're facing a potential gap in income, sometimes it's worth it to get actual answers instead of guessing.

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The Washington ESD website has a whole section about quitting for good cause but it's pretty vague. From what I understand, you have to prove that a reasonable person in your situation would have quit too. It's not just about being unhappy with your job.

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Do you happen to know where on the website that information is? I've been looking but can't find the specific requirements.

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I think it's under the eligibility section but honestly their website is pretty confusing to navigate.

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whatever you do dont just quit without having another job lined up! the unemployment system is broken and you might not get anything for months

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I wish I could find another job first but this situation is affecting my mental health so badly I can barely function.

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That's actually another potential good cause reason - if you can get medical documentation that the workplace stress is causing health issues, that strengthens your case with Washington ESD.

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I had a similar situation where my boss was making my life hell. I documented everything for months before I finally quit. Took photos of the schedule changes, saved all the nasty emails, even recorded a conversation (which might not be legal everywhere so check on that). When I filed my claim, I had a binder full of evidence and Washington ESD approved me after about 3 weeks of adjudication.

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That's smart to document everything. I wish I had started doing that sooner. Did you have to go to a hearing or anything?

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No hearing needed in my case. The adjudicator just called me once to ask a few questions and then approved the claim. Having all that documentation really helped.

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Recording conversations without consent is illegal in Washington state, just FYI. Two-party consent law here.

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The whole system is designed to screw people over. They make it so hard to get benefits even when you deserve them. I bet half the people who quit for good reasons never even bother filing because they think they won't qualify.

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That's unfortunately probably true. A lot of people don't realize that quitting for good cause can still qualify you for benefits.

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Exactly! I worked with someone who quit because of sexual harassment and didn't even try to file for unemployment because she thought you had to be fired. Such a shame.

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Have you considered talking to a lawyer about your workplace situation? Sometimes just having a lawyer send a letter can improve things enough that you don't have to quit. And if you do quit, having legal documentation of the problems could help with your unemployment claim.

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I haven't thought about a lawyer but that's a good point. Do you know if there are any free legal services for workplace issues?

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There are some non-profit legal aid organizations that help with employment issues. Might be worth looking into before you make any big decisions.

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Just went through this exact thing. Filed for unemployment after quitting due to my boss cutting my hours in half without notice. Washington ESD took forever to make a decision but eventually approved me. The key was showing that the hour reduction was significant enough that it basically forced me to quit. Keep detailed records of everything!

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How long did the whole process take from filing to getting your first payment?

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Filed in early October, got my first payment in late November. So about 7 weeks total but that included the waiting week.

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My cousin quit her job because they kept scheduling her outside her availability and she couldn't get childcare. She got approved for benefits because it was considered good cause. The adjudicator said that if your employer makes changes that make it impossible for you to continue working, that can qualify as good cause for quitting.

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That's encouraging to hear! My situation is more about the toxic management but maybe there's still hope.

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Hostile work environment can definitely be good cause if you can document it properly. The key is showing that you tried to resolve the issues first.

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Before you quit, have you tried filing a complaint with HR or going above your manager's head? Washington ESD will want to see that you attempted to resolve the situation before quitting. It's called making a 'good faith effort' to continue working.

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I filed a complaint with HR but they basically told me to work it out with my manager, who is the problem. Not sure what else I can do.

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Document that HR response! That shows you tried to resolve it through proper channels and they didn't help. That could actually strengthen your case.

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The adjudication process is so stressful. I quit my job last year for good cause and it felt like they were looking for any reason to deny me. They asked me why I didn't just find a new job first, why I didn't transfer departments, all kinds of questions. But I had good documentation and eventually got approved.

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That sounds nerve-wracking. Did you have to do a phone interview or was it all in writing?

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Both actually. First they sent me a questionnaire to fill out, then about two weeks later they called me for a phone interview. The call lasted about 20 minutes.

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I used Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD when I was going through my adjudication. The agent was able to tell me exactly what documentation they needed and what the timeline looked like. It was worth it to get that clarity instead of just waiting and wondering.

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Did they give you any advice about strengthening your case?

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They couldn't give advice per se, but they explained the process and what evidence they look for. It helped me understand what I needed to focus on.

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Whatever you decide, don't wait too long after quitting to file your claim. You want to get the process started as soon as possible since it can take weeks or months to get resolved. And if you do get approved, you'll get backpay to when you first became unemployed.

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Good point about filing quickly. I assume I should file the claim right after I quit, not wait to see if I can find another job first?

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Exactly. File as soon as you become unemployed. You can always withdraw the claim later if you find work quickly, but you can't backdate it if you wait too long to file.

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The stress of not knowing if you'll get benefits is almost as bad as the workplace situation itself. I was a wreck during my adjudication period. But having good documentation really does make a difference. Start gathering everything you can now, even if you haven't decided to quit yet.

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I'm definitely going to start documenting everything better. This thread has been really helpful for understanding what I need to prepare.

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I'm glad it's helpful! This stuff is so confusing when you're going through it. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

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One thing to keep in mind is that even if you get approved for benefits after quitting, you still have to meet all the other requirements like doing job searches and being available for work. It's not like you can just quit and collect benefits indefinitely.

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Right, I understand I'd still need to be actively looking for work. That's actually fine with me - I just need some income stability while I find a better job.

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Exactly. The job search requirements are the same whether you were fired or quit for good cause. Usually 3 job search activities per week in Washington.

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I hate that people have to go through all this just to get basic unemployment benefits. The system should be more straightforward, especially for people dealing with hostile work environments. But at least it is possible to get approved if you have good cause and proper documentation.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice and support. I feel much more informed about my options now.

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Definitely consider calling Washington ESD to discuss your specific situation before making any decisions. Whether you use Claimyr or somehow get through on your own, talking to an actual person can really help clarify things.

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Good luck OP! Document everything and don't let them intimidate you. You have rights as an employee and as an unemployment claimant.

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