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Can you claim Washington ESD unemployment if you resign from your job?

I'm thinking about quitting my job because of some serious issues with my supervisor but I'm worried about being able to get unemployment benefits. Does Washington ESD allow you to claim UI if you resign? I've heard conflicting information and want to know what the actual rules are before I make this decision. The situation at work is getting really bad but I can't afford to be without income.

Generally speaking, Washington ESD requires you to be separated from work through no fault of your own to qualify for unemployment benefits. If you voluntarily quit, you'll likely be disqualified unless you can prove you had good cause connected to your work. This means things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties or pay.

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What exactly counts as 'good cause'? My supervisor has been making my work environment really hostile but I don't know if that's enough.

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Good cause can include workplace harassment, discrimination, unsafe conditions, or substantial changes to your job terms. You'd need to document everything and be prepared to prove your case during the adjudication process.

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I quit my job last year due to a hostile work environment and was initially denied benefits. I had to go through the appeals process and provide extensive documentation, but I eventually won my case. The key is having solid evidence of why you couldn't reasonably continue working there.

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How long did the appeals process take? I'm really worried about the time gap without income.

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It took about 6 weeks total from my initial filing to getting my first payment after the appeal was approved. During that time I had no income which was really tough.

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6 weeks?? That's crazy long. Did you try calling Washington ESD to check on your case status?

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Before you quit, have you tried talking to HR about the supervisor issues? Washington ESD will want to see that you made reasonable attempts to resolve the problem before resigning. Also, check if your company has an employee assistance program that might help.

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I did file a complaint with HR but they basically sided with my supervisor. I have emails documenting this whole process though.

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Those emails could be really valuable if you do file for unemployment. Keep everything organized and make copies.

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honestly the washington esd system is so backed up right now, even if you have a good case it could take forever to get approved. i've been waiting 3 months for my adjudication to finish and i was laid off, not even a quit situation

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3 months?! That's terrible. Have you been able to reach anyone at Washington ESD to check what's happening?

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tried calling like 100 times, always busy or i get disconnected. the online system just says 'pending' with no other info

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The system is totally broken. I know people who got denied for quitting even when they had legitimate safety concerns. Washington ESD seems to automatically deny quit cases and force you to appeal everything.

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While the system does have challenges, saying they 'automatically deny' quit cases isn't accurate. Each case goes through adjudication where they review the specific circumstances.

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maybe not 'automatically' but they sure make it hard. seems like they deny first and ask questions later

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Another thing to consider - if you do quit and file for unemployment, you'll need to actively look for work and report your job search activities weekly. You can't just quit and sit around waiting for benefits. The job search requirements are pretty strict.

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How many jobs do you have to apply for each week? I've never been on unemployment before so I don't know the requirements.

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You need to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep detailed records. They can audit your job search log at any time.

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My friend quit her job because her boss was sexually harassing her and she got approved for benefits after documenting everything. But she had to wait like 2 months for the decision. The key was having witnesses and written complaints she'd filed.

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That's encouraging to hear she eventually got approved. The waiting period sounds awful though.

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yeah the waiting was really hard on her financially. she had to borrow money from family to get by

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If you do decide to quit, make sure you file your unemployment claim immediately. Don't wait thinking you need to find another job first. There's a waiting period anyway, and delays in filing just push everything back further.

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Good point. If I'm going to do this I should file right away. Is there anything specific I should say or not say when filing?

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Be completely honest about your reasons for quitting and provide as much detail as possible. Don't try to hide the fact that you voluntarily left - they'll find out anyway when they contact your employer.

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The whole unemployment system is designed to discourage people from filing. They make it as difficult as possible hoping you'll just give up and find another job instead of fighting for benefits you're entitled to.

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While the system can be frustrating, it's not designed to discourage legitimate claims. The requirements exist to prevent fraud and ensure benefits go to people who qualify.

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tell that to all the people who get denied for technicalities and can't afford to fight appeals

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. It sounds like I need to really document everything and be prepared for a long fight if I quit. Maybe I should try to stick it out a bit longer and see if the situation improves.

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That might be wise. In the meantime, keep documenting everything that happens with your supervisor. Having a solid paper trail will help if you do eventually need to quit and file for benefits.

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Whatever you decide, if you need to reach Washington ESD for any reason, definitely check out claimyr.com. Saved me so much time and frustration trying to get through their phone system.

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just want to add that even if you get approved for benefits after quitting, you might face a penalty period where you can't collect anything for several weeks. they dont always tell you about that upfront

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A penalty period on top of everything else? How long is that usually?

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There isn't automatically a penalty period for voluntary quits if you're approved for good cause. You might be thinking of misconduct cases which can have a different disqualification period.

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I was in a similar situation and ended up getting fired instead of quitting. Not saying you should try to get fired, but it made the unemployment process much smoother.

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I've thought about that but I don't want to do anything that would hurt my professional reputation or references.

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yeah that's smart. i was lucky my next employer didn't care about the circumstances

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One more thing - if you do quit and file for benefits, be prepared for your employer to contest your claim. They'll get notified and can provide their side of the story, which might contradict what you're saying about the hostile work environment.

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I figured they would contest it. That's why I'm trying to document everything so thoroughly.

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Smart approach. The more evidence you have, the better your chances during adjudication.

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the adjudication process for quit cases is no joke. they really put you through the wringer trying to prove you had good cause. took me 3 different phone interviews before they finally approved my claim

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3 interviews?? What kind of questions do they ask?

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lots of details about exactly what happened, what you did to try to fix it, why you couldn't keep working there. they want to hear everything

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Those adjudication interviews can be really stressful. When I had mine, I used Claimyr to make sure I didn't miss the scheduled call. They have a callback feature that's really helpful for important calls like that.

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Whatever you decide, don't let a bad supervisor ruin your financial stability. There are other options like transferring departments or finding a new job before you quit. Unemployment should be a last resort.

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I've been looking for other jobs but the market is tough right now. I may not have the luxury of finding something else first.

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I understand. Just make sure you've exhausted all other options before taking the unemployment route with a voluntary quit.

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honestly at this point i'd rather deal with a hostile supervisor than deal with washington esd's broken system. at least you know you're getting paid

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That's kind of where I'm leaning too. The uncertainty of the unemployment process is really scary.

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While the system has challenges, don't let that stop you from filing if you have legitimate good cause to quit. You have rights as a worker.

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Good luck whatever you decide. The whole situation sounds really stressful. Just remember that your mental health and safety are important too.

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Thank you. It really is affecting my mental health at this point. I appreciate everyone's input on this thread.

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been following this thread and wanted to add - if you do file and get stuck in adjudication hell like so many of us, there are resources out there to help you navigate the system. don't give up if your first attempt gets denied

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What kind of resources? I want to be as prepared as possible if I go this route.

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legal aid societies sometimes help with unemployment appeals, and there are services like the one mentioned earlier that help you actually reach ESD agents when you need to

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The bottom line is that Washington ESD CAN approve benefits for people who quit with good cause, but you need to be prepared to fight for it and have solid documentation. It's not impossible but it's definitely not easy.

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That seems to be the consensus here. Possible but difficult. I have a lot to think about.

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Take your time with the decision. Once you quit it's hard to undo, so make sure you're really ready for the potential battle ahead.

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