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Can you get Washington ESD unemployment if you quit your job voluntarily?

I'm thinking about leaving my current position because of some ongoing workplace issues, but I'm worried about being able to pay my bills afterward. Does anyone know if Washington ESD will approve unemployment benefits if you quit your job? I've heard mixed things about this and want to understand what the actual rules are before I make any decisions. Are there specific circumstances where quitting doesn't disqualify you from UI benefits?

Generally speaking, if you quit voluntarily, Washington ESD will deny your claim unless you can prove "good cause" for leaving. Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or health issues that prevent you from doing the work. You'll need documentation to support your case.

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What kind of documentation would I need? I've been dealing with a hostile supervisor but I'm not sure if I have enough proof.

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Keep emails, write down incidents with dates and witnesses, file complaints with HR if possible. The more paper trail you have, the better your chances during the adjudication process.

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I quit my job last year due to workplace harassment and initially got denied. Had to go through the whole appeal process but eventually won. The key is having solid evidence that you tried to resolve the issues first before quitting.

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How long did the appeal take? I'm worried about the gap in income if I have to fight for benefits.

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Took about 2 months total from initial denial to final approval. It was stressful but worth it in the end.

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If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to discuss your specific situation, I'd recommend checking out Claimyr (claimyr.com). They help people get through to ESD agents when the phone lines are constantly busy. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Sometimes talking to an actual person can clarify whether your circumstances might qualify for good cause.

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I've been trying to call ESD for weeks with no luck. This might be exactly what I need - thanks!

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Never heard of this service but honestly anything beats sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected.

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The Washington ESD website has a list of what qualifies as good cause for quitting. Some common ones are: discrimination, unsafe work environment, employer violated labor laws, substantial reduction in hours or pay, or if continuing work would cause health problems. You really need to document everything though.

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Do you have a link to that page? I want to make sure I understand all the criteria.

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It's on the main Washington ESD website under the unemployment benefits section. Look for 'reasons for leaving work' or something similar.

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whatever you do don't just quit without having another job lined up!!! I made that mistake thinking I could get UI and was wrong. ended up broke for months

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That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. Did you not qualify for good cause or was there another issue?

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couldn't prove good cause. my situation was more about not liking the job rather than actual workplace violations

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This is important - personal dissatisfaction with work generally doesn't qualify as good cause. It has to be something objectively problematic that most reasonable people would consider cause for leaving.

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I had to quit due to my child's daycare closing and couldn't find alternative care. Washington ESD approved my claim because lack of childcare can be considered good cause in some situations. Every case is different though.

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That's interesting - I didn't know childcare issues could qualify. My situation is more about workplace problems.

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Yeah they consider various personal circumstances. The key is showing you had no reasonable alternative to quitting.

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Another thing to consider - even if you qualify for benefits after quitting, there might be a waiting period before payments start. Plan your finances accordingly because UI benefits won't start immediately even in the best case scenario.

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How long is the typical waiting period for someone who quit with good cause?

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Usually at least a week, but if they need to investigate your claim through adjudication, it could be several weeks or more.

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Just went through this myself. The adjudication process can be really long if you quit. They investigate everything - contact your employer, review your documentation, sometimes schedule interviews. Started my claim in November and didn't get first payment until January.

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Two months?! That's terrifying. How did you manage financially during that time?

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Had to borrow money from family and pick up some gig work. It was rough but the backpay eventually came through.

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This is exactly why services like Claimyr can be helpful - you can actually talk to someone at ESD to check on your adjudication status instead of just waiting and wondering.

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The whole system is so frustrating. You'd think they'd want to help people who are in genuinely bad work situations, but instead you have to jump through a million hoops to prove you 'deserve' benefits.

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tell me about it. meanwhile people who get laid off get benefits immediately with no questions asked

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I understand the frustration, but the system is designed to prevent abuse. UI is meant to be insurance for involuntary job loss, so there are naturally higher barriers when someone chooses to leave.

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My advice would be to document everything first, try to resolve issues through proper channels, and only quit as a last resort. Even then, file your UI claim immediately and be prepared to provide extensive documentation during the adjudication process.

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That seems like the smart approach. I guess I need to start building my case before I make any moves.

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Exactly. The more evidence you have that quitting was your only reasonable option, the better your chances with Washington ESD.

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One more tip - if you do quit and file for UI, make sure you're still meeting all the other requirements like doing job searches and being available for work. They'll deny your claim if you're not actively seeking employment even if they approve the good cause part.

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Good point. I'd definitely be looking for work immediately if I left my current job.

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Just make sure you're logging your job searches properly in WorkSourceWA. They check that stuff during audits.

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honestly the whole thing is a gamble. even with good cause you might get denied and have to appeal. i'd try to stick it out at your current job while looking for something else if at all possible

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I've been trying that approach but the situation is getting worse. At some point it might not be worth the stress.

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totally understand. just saying the financial risk is real if ESD doesn't see it your way

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Another option is to talk to an employment attorney before making any decisions. Many offer free consultations and can tell you if your situation would likely qualify for good cause. Better to know upfront than find out after you're already unemployed.

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That's actually a really good idea. Do you know if there are attorneys who specialize in unemployment issues specifically?

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Yes, some employment lawyers handle UI cases. You can also contact legal aid organizations - they sometimes help with unemployment appeals for free.

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Whatever you decide, keep detailed records of everything. Dates, times, witnesses, emails, HR complaints - everything. I learned this the hard way when I had to prove constructive dismissal.

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What's constructive dismissal? Is that different from quitting for good cause?

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It's when working conditions become so bad that a reasonable person would feel forced to quit. Similar concept but the legal standard can be different.

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Just remember that even if you win an appeal, the whole process can take months. Make sure you have some kind of financial cushion or support system before you make the leap.

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Yeah, that seems to be the consistent message here. The uncertainty is almost as stressful as the job situation itself.

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It really is. But sometimes you have to prioritize your mental health and well-being over financial security, even if it's scary.

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Final thought - if you do decide to quit, make sure you phrase your reason correctly when filing your UI claim. Don't just say you quit because you were unhappy. Explain the specific circumstances that made continuing work unreasonable or impossible.

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Thanks for all the advice everyone. This has been really helpful in understanding what I'm facing.

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Good luck with whatever you decide. Hope it works out for you!

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