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Selena Bautista

Can you collect unemployment if you resign from your job in Washington?

I'm thinking about quitting my job because of some issues with management, but I'm worried about being able to pay my bills. Does anyone know if you can still get unemployment benefits from Washington ESD if you resign instead of getting fired? I've heard conflicting information and want to make sure I understand the rules before I make this decision.

Generally speaking, if you quit your job voluntarily, Washington ESD will deny your unemployment claim initially. However, there are exceptions for what they call 'good cause' reasons. Things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or health issues can qualify you for benefits even if you resigned.

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What kind of documentation would I need to prove good cause? The harassment has mostly been verbal and I don't have much written evidence.

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You'd want to document everything you can - emails, text messages, witness statements, dates and times of incidents. Even if it's mostly verbal, a detailed log with specific dates and what was said can help your case.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Quit due to a hostile work environment and initially got denied. Had to appeal the decision but eventually won. The key is being able to prove that a reasonable person would have quit under the same circumstances.

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How long did the appeal process take? I'm trying to figure out if I should start looking for another job first or if I can count on unemployment to tide me over.

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Mine took about 6 weeks total from the initial denial to the appeal hearing. Don't count on getting benefits right away - have a backup plan for covering expenses during the appeal process.

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Generally speaking, if you quit your job voluntarily, you won't qualify for unemployment benefits unless you had 'good cause' for leaving. Washington ESD is pretty strict about this - they need to determine that you had no reasonable alternative but to quit.

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What exactly counts as 'good cause'? My supervisor has been making work really difficult but I'm not sure if that's enough.

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Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties or pay, harassment, or domestic violence situations. Management being difficult might not be enough unless it rises to the level of creating a hostile work environment.

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If you're dealing with harassment or unsafe conditions, you might want to try contacting Washington ESD before you quit to see if you can get guidance on your specific situation. Sometimes they can tell you whether your circumstances would qualify for good cause.

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Good luck getting through to anyone at Washington ESD on the phone though. I've been trying to reach them for weeks about my own claim issues and can never get past the busy signal.

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Be really careful about quitting without another job lined up. Even if you think you have good cause, Washington ESD can be pretty strict about their definitions. I've seen people who thought they had solid cases get denied.

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That's what I'm worried about. The stress at work is affecting my health but I'm scared to take the risk of quitting without knowing for sure I'll qualify for benefits.

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Have you considered talking to an employment attorney? Sometimes they can help you understand if your situation would meet the good cause standard before you make any decisions.

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I went through this exact situation last year. I quit because my boss was making my life miserable, but Washington ESD denied my claim initially. I had to appeal and provide documentation of the harassment before they approved my benefits.

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How long did the appeal process take? I'm worried about the gap in income if I have to fight for benefits.

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The appeal took about 6 weeks, but I eventually got all my back benefits once it was approved. Make sure you document everything if you're dealing with workplace issues.

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Washington does recognize constructive discharge situations where the employer makes working conditions so intolerable that you're essentially forced to quit. But proving it can be challenging.

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What exactly constitutes constructive discharge? My supervisor has been making my life miserable but I'm not sure if it rises to that level.

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It's when the working conditions become so unreasonable that any reasonable person would feel compelled to resign. Things like severe harassment, significant reduction in hours or pay, unsafe conditions, or being asked to do something illegal.

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I quit my job three months ago because of harassment and got denied initially. Still waiting on my appeal hearing. The whole process is incredibly stressful when you're already dealing with workplace trauma.

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I'm sorry you're dealing with that. How are you managing financially while waiting for the appeal?

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It's been rough. Had to borrow money from family and picked up some gig work. Really wish I had known how long this process would take.

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The Washington ESD website has a section about voluntary quit situations that might be helpful. They list specific examples of what they consider good cause, including domestic violence situations, discrimination, and unsafe working conditions.

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I'll check that out, thanks. Do you remember what section of their website it's under?

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It's under their eligibility requirements section. They break down different scenarios and what documentation you'd need for each one.

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Whatever you decide, make sure you file your unemployment claim as soon as possible after you quit. There's a waiting period anyway, and delaying the application just makes everything take longer.

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Good point. Even if I might get denied initially, it's better to get the process started right away.

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Exactly. And be completely honest on your application about why you quit. Trying to hide the fact that you resigned voluntarily will just make things worse if they find out later.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now. My boss has been creating a hostile work environment but I'm scared to quit because I need the income. It's a catch-22 - stay and suffer, or leave and potentially lose benefits.

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That's exactly my dilemma. The stress is affecting my sleep and health but the financial risk of quitting is terrifying.

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Have you considered filing a complaint with HR first? Sometimes having documentation that you tried to resolve the issue internally can strengthen your case for good cause if you do end up quitting.

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The burden of proof is on you to show that you had good cause to quit. Washington ESD doesn't just take your word for it - you need evidence. Start documenting everything now if you haven't already.

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I've started keeping a log of incidents but I wish I had started documenting things sooner. A lot of the worst stuff happened months ago.

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Write down what you can remember with as much detail as possible, including dates and any witnesses. Even if it's not perfect documentation, it's better than nothing.

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Don't forget that even if you qualify for unemployment after quitting, you still have to meet all the other requirements like actively looking for work and being available for work. The job search requirements in Washington are pretty strict.

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Yeah, I know about the job search requirements. At least if I'm actively looking I might find something before the unemployment runs out.

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The WorkSource registration is mandatory too. Make sure you get that done right away if you do file a claim.

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whatever you do dont just quit without having another job lined up. even if you think you might qualify for unemployment its not guaranteed and the process can take forever

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I know that's the smart advice, but the situation at work is really affecting my mental health. I'm not sure how much longer I can stay.

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Have you considered talking to HR first? Sometimes documenting your complaints can help establish a pattern if you do end up needing to quit for good cause.

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I successfully got unemployment after quitting due to unsafe working conditions. The key was having documentation from OSHA complaints I had filed. If your workplace has safety issues, definitely report them through proper channels first.

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My issues are more about harassment than safety, but that's good to know for anyone dealing with unsafe conditions.

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For harassment, documenting your complaints to HR and management is crucial. Shows you tried to resolve it through proper channels before quitting.

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The appeal process for voluntary quit cases can be lengthy, but don't give up if you get initially denied. Many people win on appeal if they have good documentation and a legitimate case for good cause.

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That's encouraging to hear. I was worried that an initial denial would be the end of it.

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Definitely not the end. The appeal hearings are where you really get to present your case. Just make sure you have all your documentation organized and ready.

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If you do decide to quit, try to do it in writing and keep a copy. Sometimes having a resignation letter that clearly states your reasons can help support your unemployment claim later.

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That's a good idea. Should I be specific about the harassment in the resignation letter or keep it more general?

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Be specific but professional. You want to clearly state the reasons without being overly emotional or accusatory. This document could be important evidence for your claim.

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Just wanted to mention that if you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to ask questions about your specific situation, there are services like Claimyr that can help you get through their phone system. I used them when I needed to discuss my own voluntary quit situation with an agent.

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Someone mentioned Claimyr earlier too. I might look into that if I need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my situation.

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It's definitely worth it if you need to get through to them. Their phone system is notoriously difficult to navigate on your own.

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The Washington ESD website has a section about voluntary separations that might help you understand the rules better. From what I remember, they look at whether a reasonable person in your situation would have felt compelled to quit.

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I'll definitely check that out. Do you remember if they consider things like reduced hours or pay cuts as good cause?

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Yes, substantial changes to your work conditions including significant reductions in hours or pay can qualify as good cause, but you usually need to give your employer a chance to fix the situation first.

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Remember that each case is different and what worked for someone else might not apply to your situation. The best thing you can do is gather as much documentation as possible and be prepared to clearly explain why you felt you had no choice but to quit.

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Thanks for all the advice everyone. I have a lot to think about and some research to do before making any decisions.

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Good luck with whatever you decide. Just remember to prioritize your health and wellbeing - no job is worth destroying your mental or physical health over.

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Been there done that. Quit my retail job because they kept changing my schedule with no notice and I couldnt arrange childcare. Washington ESD approved my claim but it took like 3 weeks and I had to provide tons of documentation about how I tried to work with my manager first.

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That's encouraging! What kind of documentation did you need to provide?

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Email exchanges with my manager, my schedule changes, childcare receipts showing the costs of last-minute arrangements. Basically anything that showed the unreasonable working conditions and my attempts to resolve it.

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Another thing to keep in mind is that even if you qualify, there might be a waiting period before benefits start. Washington ESD will investigate the circumstances of your resignation, which can add time to the process.

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How long is the typical investigation for voluntary separations?

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It varies, but I've seen it take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how complex the situation is and whether your former employer contests the claim.

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The system is honestly stacked against workers. I had a boss who was verbally abusive but because I didn't have it on video or audio recording, Washington ESD said it wasn't enough evidence. Meanwhile I'm struggling to pay rent while they investigate for months.

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That's so frustrating! Did you end up getting approved eventually?

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Eventually yes, but only after I got a lawyer involved. The whole process was a nightmare and took almost 4 months total.

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If you do decide to quit, make sure you apply for benefits right away even if you're not sure you'll qualify. The sooner you get the process started, the sooner you'll know where you stand.

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Good point. Is there any downside to applying if you're not sure you qualify?

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No downside to applying. Worst case they deny you and you're in the same position you'd be in if you didn't apply. Best case you get approved and have some income while you look for a new job.

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Just wanted to mention again that if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about your specific situation, Claimyr really does work. I was skeptical too but when you're desperate to get answers, it's worth trying.

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How much does it cost to use?

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I don't want to get into specific pricing, but for me it was worth it to avoid the frustration of calling hundreds of times and never getting through. The peace of mind alone was valuable.

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Another option might be to see if you can negotiate a layoff instead of quitting. Sometimes employers are willing to do this, especially if they're already having budget issues or if your leaving would be convenient for them.

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That's an interesting idea. How would I even bring that up with my employer?

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You could frame it as 'mutually beneficial' - they avoid potential unemployment claims or workplace issues, and you get to qualify for benefits. Obviously depends on your relationship with management though.

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Don't forget that if you do get approved for unemployment after quitting, you'll still need to meet all the regular requirements like job searching and being available for work. The job search requirements are pretty strict these days.

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What are the current job search requirements in Washington?

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You need to complete at least 3 job search activities per week and register with WorkSourceWA. They track it all through your online account and you have to report it with your weekly claims.

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I'm in a similar situation and have been documenting everything my supervisor does that seems inappropriate or creates a hostile work environment. Even if I never end up quitting, it's good to have a record.

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That's smart. I should probably start doing that too. What's the best way to document workplace issues?

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I keep a detailed log with dates, times, witnesses present, and exactly what was said or done. I also save any relevant emails or text messages. The more specific you can be, the better.

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The unfortunate reality is that most people who quit don't qualify for unemployment unless the situation is really extreme. The bar for 'good cause' is higher than most people think.

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This is why I always tell people to try to stick it out until they find another job, even if the current situation sucks.

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I understand that logic, but some situations really do become unbearable. There has to be some protection for workers who are being mistreated.

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If you're dealing with harassment or discrimination, you might also want to file a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) or the Washington State Human Rights Commission. Having an official complaint on file can strengthen your case for good cause.

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I hadn't thought about that angle. Would filing a complaint help even if the harassment isn't based on a protected class?

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It depends on the specifics, but having any official documentation of workplace problems can help demonstrate that you tried to address the issues through proper channels before resigning.

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Whatever you decide, don't let a bad work situation destroy your mental health. Sometimes quitting is the right choice even if it means a temporary financial struggle. Your wellbeing matters more than any job.

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Thank you for saying that. It's hard to remember sometimes when you're worried about paying bills.

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Agreed. Money stress is real, but so is the stress of staying in a toxic work environment. There's no perfect answer, just what's right for your specific situation.

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One more thing - if you do end up quitting and applying for unemployment, be completely honest about the reasons when you talk to Washington ESD. They'll investigate anyway, and being dishonest will definitely hurt your case.

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Good reminder. I'll make sure to have all my facts straight and be totally transparent about what's been happening at work.

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Exactly. The truth might not always get you approved, but lying will definitely get you denied. Plus you could face penalties for fraud if they find out you weren't truthful.

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For what it's worth, I used Claimyr when I was dealing with my own unemployment claim issues and it really did help me get through to someone who could explain my options. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person to understand how the rules apply to your specific situation.

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I might give that a try. I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days and can never get through to anyone.

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That's exactly why I ended up using it. The regular phone system is basically impossible to navigate, especially when you're already stressed about your situation.

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Bottom line - quitting doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment, but you need to have a really solid reason that meets Washington ESD's definition of good cause. It's definitely an uphill battle compared to being laid off or fired without cause.

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This whole thread has been really helpful. I have a lot to think about and some good resources to check out. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences.

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Good luck with whatever you decide! Remember that you can always consult with an employment attorney if your situation is complex. Many offer free consultations.

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