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CyberNinja

Can you resign and still get unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm thinking about quitting my job because my boss keeps cutting my hours and the work environment has become pretty toxic. But I'm worried about whether I'd be able to get unemployment benefits if I resign instead of waiting to get laid off. Does anyone know if Washington ESD will approve benefits if you quit your job? I've heard mixed things and don't want to make a mistake that leaves me with no income.

Mateo Lopez

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Generally speaking, if you voluntarily quit your job, Washington ESD will deny your unemployment claim unless you can prove you had 'good cause' for leaving. Good cause usually means things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job that weren't part of your original agreement.

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CyberNinja

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What counts as 'significant changes'? They've been cutting my hours from 40 to about 25 per week for the past month.

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Mateo Lopez

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A reduction in hours like that could potentially qualify as good cause, especially if it wasn't agreed to when you were hired. You'd need to document everything and be prepared to prove your case if Washington ESD challenges it.

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You need to be really careful here. I quit my job last year thinking I had good cause and Washington ESD denied my claim. Had to go through a whole appeal process that took months. Make sure you have documentation of everything - emails, text messages, anything that shows the toxic environment or changes to your job.

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CyberNinja

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Did you eventually win your appeal? I do have some emails from my supervisor about the hour cuts.

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Yeah, I won but it took forever. The emails definitely helped my case. Save everything and maybe try talking to your HR department first to create a paper trail.

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Ethan Davis

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Yuki Tanaka

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Ethan Davis

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Carmen Ortiz

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The toxic environment part is tricky to prove. Washington ESD wants concrete evidence, not just your word that your boss was mean. Hour cuts are more black and white - if you can show they significantly reduced your wages without agreement, that's stronger ground for good cause.

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CyberNinja

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The toxic part is mostly verbal stuff that's hard to document. But the hour cuts are definitely provable with my pay stubs.

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MidnightRider

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Start keeping a log of any verbal harassment or inappropriate behavior. Date, time, witnesses present. Even if you can't record it, having detailed notes helps.

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Andre Laurent

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wait can't you just say you were laid off?? seems easier than trying to prove good cause

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Mateo Lopez

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No, don't lie on your unemployment application. That's fraud and can get you in serious legal trouble. Washington ESD checks with your employer about the reason for separation.

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Andre Laurent

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oh ok didn't know they checked. never mind then

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I went through something similar. Key thing is to document EVERYTHING before you quit. Take photos of schedules showing hour cuts, save emails, maybe even talk to coworkers who witnessed the toxic behavior and ask if they'd be willing to provide statements. Washington ESD adjudication process is thorough and they'll contact your employer too.

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CyberNinja

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Good point about coworkers. A few of them have complained about the same issues. How long does the adjudication process usually take?

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Mine took about 3 weeks, but I've heard of cases taking longer. The more evidence you have upfront, the smoother it goes.

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Another option is to see if you can get your employer to lay you off instead. Sometimes if you explain your situation to HR they might be willing to do a 'mutual separation' or reduction in force instead of a resignation.

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CyberNinja

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Interesting idea. Though given how toxic things are, I'm not sure they'd be cooperative.

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Mei Wong

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Worth a shot though. Even if they say no, it shows you tried to work things out before quitting.

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Be aware that even if you quit for good cause, there might be a waiting period before benefits start. It's not like getting laid off where benefits typically start right away. Check the Washington ESD website for current rules on this.

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CyberNinja

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How long is the waiting period usually?

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I think it's typically one week, but don't quote me on that. The Washington ESD website has the exact details.

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PixelWarrior

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Whatever you decide, file your claim as soon as possible after leaving. Don't wait because there's a time limit on when you can file, and benefits don't go retroactive to when you should have filed.

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CyberNinja

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Good to know. I'm still weighing my options but this is all really helpful.

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Amara Adebayo

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How much does something like that cost?

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Amara Adebayo

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I don't remember the exact amount but it was way less than I would have lost if my claim got denied. Check their website for current pricing.

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The hour reduction thing is actually a really strong case for good cause if you can document it properly. 15 hours per week is a massive cut. Make sure you have pay stubs from before and after the reduction.

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CyberNinja

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Yeah I've been keeping all my pay stubs. The difference is pretty dramatic when you look at them side by side.

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Dylan Evans

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Also consider whether you might qualify for partial unemployment benefits if they keep cutting your hours instead of you quitting. Sometimes that's a better option than resigning and hoping to prove good cause.

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CyberNinja

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I didn't know about partial benefits. How does that work?

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Dylan Evans

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If your hours get cut significantly, you might be able to collect partial unemployment while still working the reduced hours. Washington ESD has specific rules about this based on your earnings.

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Sofia Gomez

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DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. I cannot stress this enough. Dates, times, witnesses, save every email and text. Washington ESD will want proof and your employer will probably fight the claim.

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CyberNinja

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Starting a documentation file today. Thanks for the push to get organized about this.

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StormChaser

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might be worth talking to a lawyer too if the situation is really bad. some employment lawyers do free consultations and can tell you if you have a strong case

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Dmitry Petrov

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Good point. Even if you don't pursue legal action, a lawyer can help you understand if your situation meets the legal definition of good cause for unemployment purposes.

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Ava Williams

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I've seen people get denied for quitting even when they thought they had good reasons. Washington ESD is pretty strict about voluntary separations. Make sure you understand exactly what qualifies before you make your decision.

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CyberNinja

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That's what I'm worried about. I don't want to quit and then find out I don't qualify for benefits.

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Ava Williams

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Smart to think it through. Maybe try that Claimyr thing others mentioned to get official guidance from Washington ESD before you decide.

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Miguel Castro

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The bottom line is yes, you can potentially get unemployment if you resign, but the bar is pretty high for proving good cause. Hour cuts like yours might qualify, but toxic environment alone probably won't unless you have solid documentation of harassment or illegal behavior.

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CyberNinja

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This whole thread has been super helpful. I think I need to focus on documenting the hour cuts and see if I can build a case around that rather than the workplace atmosphere.

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Just wanted to add that Washington ESD also considers "constructive dismissal" - where your employer makes working conditions so intolerable that a reasonable person would feel forced to quit. The significant hour reduction from 40 to 25 hours could fall under this category, especially if it wasn't discussed or agreed to beforehand. You might want to look into whether your situation meets the legal definition of constructive dismissal, as that's often treated more favorably than a standard resignation. Keep detailed records of when the hour cuts started and any communication about them.

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