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Sofia Peña

If you resign are you eligible for unemployment in Washington state?

I'm thinking about quitting my job because my boss has been making my life miserable - constant yelling, unrealistic deadlines, and now they're cutting my hours without explanation. But I'm scared to leave because I don't know if I can get unemployment benefits if I resign. Does anyone know if Washington ESD will approve claims if you quit your job? I really need to get out of this toxic situation but I can't afford to be without income.

Generally if you voluntarily quit your job, Washington ESD will deny your unemployment claim UNLESS you can prove you had 'good cause' for leaving. Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, discrimination, or significant changes to your job that weren't part of your original agreement. You'll need to document everything - save emails, text messages, witness statements, anything that proves the bad treatment.

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Thank you! I do have some emails where my supervisor was pretty abusive. Should I file for unemployment right after I quit or wait?

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File immediately after your last day of work. Don't wait - there's a waiting period anyway and you want to get the process started.

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be careful because washington esd is really strict about voluntary quits. my friend quit his job last year because of a hostile work environment and they denied his claim. he had to appeal and it took months to get approved. make sure you have TONS of documentation

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about. How did your friend finally get approved?

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he had to get a lawyer and prove that the workplace was so bad it would be unreasonable for anyone to stay. took like 6 months total

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I was in a similar situation and found that calling Washington ESD directly helped me understand exactly what documentation I needed before I quit. The problem is getting through to them - I must have called 200 times over two weeks. Eventually I used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get connected to an actual person at Washington ESD. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. The agent was able to explain exactly what constitutes 'good cause' for my specific situation.

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That's really helpful! I've been dreading trying to call them because I know how hard it is to get through.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but anything that helps you actually talk to someone at Washington ESD sounds worth trying

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The key thing is proving that a 'reasonable person' would have quit in your situation. Washington ESD looks at whether you tried to resolve the issues first (like talking to HR or your boss), whether the problems were serious enough to justify quitting, and whether you explored other options like transferring to a different department. Document everything and be prepared to explain why staying wasn't an option.

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We don't have HR at my company - it's pretty small. Does that hurt my case?

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Not necessarily. You still need to show you tried to address the issues directly with your supervisor or whoever is above them. If there's no formal HR, document your attempts to resolve things through whatever channels exist.

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small companies are actually worse sometimes because there's nowhere to go when your boss is the problem

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I HATE that we even have to worry about this! Why should we have to stay in abusive jobs just to qualify for benefits we've paid into? The whole system is designed to keep workers trapped in bad situations. Sorry for the rant but this stuff makes me so angry.

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I totally get the frustration but the rules exist to prevent people from just quitting whenever they want and collecting benefits

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Yeah but there's got to be a better balance. Workers shouldn't have to choose between their mental health and being able to pay rent.

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What exactly counts as 'good cause'? I'm dealing with something similar where my manager keeps changing my schedule last minute and now they want me to work weekends that weren't part of my original job description.

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Significant changes to your working conditions that weren't part of your original agreement can qualify as good cause. Schedule changes, pay cuts, major job duty changes, etc.

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Good to know. I've been keeping track of all the schedule changes in a notebook.

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just quit and file anyway. worst case they deny it and you appeal. at least you'll be out of the toxic situation

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That's not great advice. If you quit without good cause and get denied, you might be disqualified from future benefits too. It's worth doing it right the first time.

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true but sometimes your sanity is worth more than following all the bureaucratic rules perfectly

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I quit my job 6 months ago due to harassment and got approved for unemployment after providing documentation. The key things Washington ESD wanted to see were: 1) Evidence of the problematic behavior, 2) Proof that I tried to address it with management, 3) Documentation showing the situation was getting worse, not better. It took about 3 weeks for them to make a decision.

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That's encouraging! What kind of evidence did you provide?

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Email chains, text messages from coworkers who witnessed incidents, a timeline I kept of events, and a letter I had sent to my supervisor trying to resolve things.

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Be prepared for the adjudication process to take a while. When you file after quitting, your claim will almost definitely go into adjudication while they investigate whether you had good cause. This can take 2-4 weeks or longer depending on how busy they are.

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What happens during adjudication? Do they interview you?

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They might call you and your former employer to get both sides of the story. They'll also review any documentation you submit. Make sure you respond quickly to any requests for information.

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whatever you do don't just walk out. give proper notice even if you're quitting for good cause. it shows you were professional and tried to handle things the right way

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That's a good point. I was thinking about just leaving but you're right that it would look better to give notice.

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Another thing to consider - if your employer contests your unemployment claim (which they probably will if you quit), you might end up in a hearing. I had to do a phone hearing where I explained my side to an administrative law judge. It was nerve-wracking but having all my documentation ready helped a lot.

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A hearing sounds scary. Did you have a lawyer?

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No, I represented myself. The judge was actually pretty fair and asked good questions. Just be honest and stick to the facts.

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I tried to get help from Washington ESD about this exact question before I quit my job but couldn't get through on the phone. Ended up using Claimyr to actually reach someone who could give me specific advice about my situation. Worth it just for the peace of mind of knowing I was doing everything right.

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That seems like a smart approach. Better to know the rules before you make the decision.

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constructive dismissal is another angle to consider. if they're making your job so miserable that any reasonable person would quit, that's basically the same as being fired. but you still need to document everything

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Good point. Washington ESD will sometimes treat constructive dismissal the same as being terminated, but the bar for proving it is pretty high.

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My advice is to start looking for a new job BEFORE you quit if possible. Even if you get approved for unemployment, it's not going to be enough to live on comfortably. Plus having a job lined up makes the whole process less stressful.

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I've been applying to other jobs but nothing's come through yet. The toxic environment is making it hard to even focus on job searching.

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I totally understand. Sometimes you have to prioritize your mental health and just get out of a bad situation.

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Don't forget that even if you get approved for unemployment after quitting, you still have to meet all the other requirements - filing weekly claims, job searching, being available for work, etc. The work search requirement is 3 job contacts per week in Washington.

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Thanks for reminding me about that. I assume I'll need to register with WorkSource too?

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Yes, you'll need to register with WorkSourceWA and keep a log of your job search activities.

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The bottom line is that quitting doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment, but you need to have a really solid case for good cause. If your boss is truly creating a hostile work environment, document everything and be prepared to prove it. Don't suffer in silence just because you're worried about benefits.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice! I feel much more prepared to handle this situation now. I'm going to start documenting everything and maybe try to get some advice from Washington ESD directly before I make my final decision.

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Good luck! And seriously consider using Claimyr if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD. It saved me so much frustration trying to get through on my own.

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