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If you resign can you collect unemployment in Washington - need advice

My job situation has become really toxic and I'm thinking about quitting. My manager has been making unreasonable demands and the work environment is affecting my mental health. But I'm worried about money if I resign. Does anyone know if you can collect unemployment benefits from Washington ESD if you quit your job voluntarily? I've heard mixed things and don't want to make a huge mistake.

Generally you can't get UI benefits if you quit, but there are some exceptions. Washington ESD looks at whether you had 'good cause' to quit. Things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties might qualify.

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What counts as 'good cause'? My manager has been verbally abusive but I don't have it in writing.

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Verbal abuse can count but you'd need to document it somehow. Keep records of incidents, dates, witnesses if possible.

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I quit my job last year and was denied benefits initially. Had to appeal and it took forever to get through to anyone at Washington ESD to explain my situation.

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How long did the appeal take? I'm scared about being without income for months.

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The appeal hearing was about 6 weeks out when I finally got it scheduled. But I did win in the end.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to discuss your situation before quitting, you might want to check out claimyr.com. They help people actually reach ESD agents by phone when the lines are always busy. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Never heard of that service. Is it legit? I've been trying to call ESD for weeks.

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Yeah it's real. They basically handle the waiting and calling for you so you don't have to spend hours on hold.

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DOCUMENT EVERYTHING before you quit!!! I made the mistake of not keeping records and it hurt me in my appeal hearing. Save emails, write down conversations with dates and times.

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Good point. I should start doing this now even if I don't quit.

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Yes! And if you have any witnesses to the bad behavior, get their contact info too.

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The key is whether you tried to resolve the issues before quitting. Did you talk to HR? File complaints? Washington ESD wants to see that you made efforts to fix things first.

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We don't really have HR, it's a small company. Should I talk to my manager's boss?

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Absolutely. You need to show you tried to address the problems through proper channels first.

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i quit my job and got denied benefits. they said i didnt have good cause but my boss was making me work overtime without pay

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That's actually illegal and could be good cause. Did you appeal the decision?

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no i didnt know i could appeal. is it too late now

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You usually have 30 days from the decision date to appeal. Check your denial letter for the exact deadline.

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Another thing - if you do quit, make sure you phrase it correctly on your unemployment application. Don't just say 'I quit' - explain the circumstances that forced you to quit.

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How should I word it? I don't want to sound like I'm just complaining.

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Be factual and specific. 'Resigned due to hostile work environment and verbal abuse from supervisor' is better than just 'quit because of bad boss'.

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My friend used that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier. She said it saved her so much time trying to get through to ESD. Worth looking into if you need to talk to them about your situation.

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How much does it cost? I'm already worried about money.

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I don't know the exact cost but she said it was worth it to actually get through instead of calling for hours every day.

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The system is rigged against workers. They make it so hard to get benefits even when you have legitimate reasons for quitting. It's disgusting.

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I feel you. I've been fighting with ESD for months over my claim.

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This is why I'm so scared to quit. The system seems designed to deny people.

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Look, don't let the negativity scare you. If you have legitimate good cause, document it properly, and follow the right process, you can get benefits. But talk to ESD first if possible to understand your options.

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I'll try calling them again tomorrow. Maybe I'll check out that Claimyr service if I can't get through.

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Good luck! The key is having your documentation ready when you do talk to them.

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What about constructive dismissal? If they're making your job impossible, that might be considered involuntary separation even if you technically quit.

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Never heard of that term. How does that work?

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It's when working conditions become so bad that a reasonable person would have no choice but to quit. But you'd need strong documentation.

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been there done that. quit my job last year because of harassment and got benefits after appeal. took forever but i won

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What kind of evidence did you need for the appeal?

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emails, witness statements, documentation that i tried to resolve it internally first

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Don't quit unless you absolutely have to. Try to get them to fire you instead - then you'd definitely qualify for unemployment.

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How do you get fired without doing something that would disqualify you from benefits?

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Just stop going above and beyond. Do exactly what your job description says and nothing more.

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That's risky advice. You could still be fired for poor performance.

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I used Claimyr when I was dealing with an adjudication issue last month. Really helped me get through to an actual person at ESD who could explain what was happening with my claim.

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Did they help you resolve the issue quickly?

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Yeah, once I actually talked to someone at ESD they were able to clear up the problem pretty fast.

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Check if your state has any specific protections for quitting due to workplace harassment or unsafe conditions. Some states have expanded good cause definitions.

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I'm in Washington - do you know if they have expanded protections?

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Washington ESD has been pretty good about recognizing workplace harassment as good cause, but you still need documentation.

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Whatever you do, don't quit without having another job lined up if possible. Even if you get benefits, it's way less than your regular paycheck.

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I've been looking but nothing yet. The job market is tough right now.

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Yeah, benefits max out at like $999/week in Washington. Probably way less than what you're making now.

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If you do quit, make sure you understand the work search requirements. You'll need to be actively looking for work and document your job search activities.

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How many jobs do you have to apply to each week?

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I think it's 3 job search activities per week in Washington, but check the current requirements since they change sometimes.

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The bottom line is that quitting for good cause is possible but you need to build a solid case first. Don't quit impulsively - plan it out and document everything.

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Thanks everyone. I'm going to start documenting everything and try to talk to ESD before making any decisions.

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Smart move. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!

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