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Annabel Kimball

Can I get Washington ESD unemployment if I leave a job voluntarily?

I'm thinking about quitting my current job because the work environment has become really toxic and my mental health is suffering. But I'm worried about how I'll pay my bills if I can't get unemployment benefits. Does anyone know if Washington ESD will approve unemployment if you voluntarily leave your job? I've heard conflicting information and want to know what my options are before I make this decision.

Generally speaking, Washington ESD considers voluntary resignation as disqualifying for regular UI benefits. However, there are specific exceptions where you might still qualify - like if you quit for 'good cause connected to the work.' This includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties, or health issues caused by the work environment.

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What counts as 'good cause'? The stress at my job is affecting my sleep and I've started having panic attacks on Sunday nights thinking about Monday.

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Mental health impacts from a hostile work environment can potentially qualify, but you'd need documentation. Have you talked to a doctor or counselor about how work is affecting you? Washington ESD will want evidence that you tried to resolve the situation first.

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Did you end up getting approved for benefits after quitting? I'm scared they'll just deny me automatically.

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Yes, but I had to document everything - emails showing I reported the harassment, HR responses, doctor visits for stress. The key was proving I tried to fix the situation before quitting and that staying would have been unreasonable.

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You should definitely try to get fired instead of quitting if possible lol. I know that sounds bad but seriously, getting laid off or terminated (as long as it's not for misconduct) makes you eligible right away.

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That's terrible advice! You can't just stop doing your job and expect to get fired without it being considered misconduct. Washington ESD investigates these things.

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I didn't say stop working, just that being terminated is easier than trying to prove good cause for quitting. But you're right, misconduct disqualifies you too.

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Before you quit, have you tried talking to HR or your supervisor about the toxic environment? Washington ESD wants to see that you made reasonable efforts to resolve workplace issues before leaving. Document everything - dates, times, what was said, who was present. If they don't address legitimate concerns, that strengthens your case for good cause.

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I've talked to HR twice but they just told me to 'work it out' with my supervisor who is actually part of the problem. Should I email them so I have written proof?

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Absolutely get everything in writing. Send a follow-up email summarizing your conversation with HR, including dates and their response. Keep copies of everything.

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honestly the whole system is messed up... why should people have to stay in jobs that are making them sick?? but yeah washington esd is super strict about voluntary quits. my friend quit because her boss was creepy and they still made her jump through hoops to prove it

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The system does seem harsh, but there are legitimate reasons for these rules. Otherwise, anyone could quit any job and collect benefits indefinitely. The 'good cause' exceptions are there to protect workers in genuinely bad situations.

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i get that but the burden of proof is ridiculous. like you have to basically lawyer up just to get benefits you paid into

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I'm going through this exact situation right now! Filed three weeks ago after quitting due to a hostile supervisor and my claim is stuck in adjudication. The uncertainty is killing me because I don't know if I'll get approved or not. Has anyone had success with an adjudication for voluntary quit?

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Adjudication for quit cases usually takes 4-6 weeks in my experience. They have to interview you, your former employer, and review all the documentation. The waiting is brutal but hang in there.

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Did you have to provide a lot of documentation during the adjudication process? I'm worried I don't have enough evidence.

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What about constructive discharge? If they make your working conditions so intolerable that any reasonable person would quit, that's supposed to be treated like being fired. But proving it is really hard.

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Constructive discharge is definitely a thing in Washington state, but the bar is very high. You have to show that the conditions were so bad that quitting was the only reasonable option for any person in that situation.

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How do you prove that though? It feels like it's all subjective - what's intolerable to me might not be to someone else.

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I used to work for an employment attorney and saw these cases all the time. Some things that helped clients get approved: medical records showing work-related stress or illness, witnesses to harassment or unsafe conditions, written complaints to management with inadequate responses, and documentation of policy violations by the employer. The more evidence the better.

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This is really helpful! I do have some emails where I complained about the situation. Should I also try to get statements from coworkers who witnessed the problems?

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Witness statements can be valuable, but make sure they're willing to be contacted by Washington ESD if needed. The adjudicator might want to verify their accounts.

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Whatever you do, don't quit without having another job lined up if possible. Even if you think you have good cause, there's always a chance Washington ESD will deny your claim and then you're stuck with no income and no benefits.

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I've been looking but the job market in my field is pretty slow right now. That's part of why I'm so worried about making this move.

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Can you stick it out a little longer while job hunting? Sometimes having an offer in hand gives you more negotiating power to fix the current situation too.

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Check if your employer offers an Employee Assistance Program (EAP). Many companies have free counseling services that can help document work-related stress and might even help mediate workplace conflicts. Plus having professional counseling records strengthens your case if you do end up quitting.

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I didn't even think about EAP! I'll check if we have that. Even if it doesn't solve the problem, the documentation could be useful.

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Been there! Quit my last job because of a verbally abusive manager and got approved for benefits, but it took 2 months and was super stressful. The key was keeping detailed notes about every incident - dates, times, what was said, who heard it. I also had emails showing I tried to transfer departments before quitting.

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Two months?! That's a long time to wait with no income. How did you manage financially during that period?

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It was rough - had to borrow money from family and used savings. But once approved, they paid all the back benefits from when I first filed. Still worth it to get out of that toxic situation.

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Don't forget about the job search requirements even if you get approved! A lot of people think they can just collect benefits without looking for work, but Washington ESD requires you to make job contacts every week and be available for work.

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Good point - I'd definitely be actively job searching anyway. Do they verify the job contacts you report?

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They can and sometimes do. Keep records of where you applied, when, and any responses you get. They might audit your job search activities.

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Another option to consider is FMLA leave if the work stress is affecting your health. It might buy you time to job search while keeping your position protected, and you could potentially get short-term disability benefits.

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I don't think I qualify for FMLA - I've only been at this job for 8 months and we're a small company.

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FMLA requires 12 months employment and 50+ employees, so you're right. But some states have their own family leave laws with different requirements.

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If you do decide to quit, make sure you understand the difference between 'good cause connected to the work' and 'good cause not connected to the work.' The first one gets you benefits right away if approved, but the second creates a waiting period even if you're approved.

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What's an example of good cause not connected to work? I want to make sure I understand the distinction.

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Things like needing to move to care for a sick family member, domestic violence situations, or transportation issues that aren't the employer's fault. Still valid reasons but different benefit timing.

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PROTIP: If you're going to quit, time it strategically. Don't quit on a Friday - quit early in the week so you can file your unemployment claim right away and get the process started. Every day counts when you're waiting for benefits to kick in.

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That's smart - I hadn't thought about the timing aspect. Should I file the claim the same day I quit or wait?

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File as soon as possible after your last day of work. Benefits start from the week you file, not the week you quit, so don't delay.

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I hate to be negative but realistically, most voluntary quit claims get denied initially. You'll probably have to appeal and go through a hearing process. Make sure you're prepared for that possibility and have your documentation organized.

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A hearing sounds intimidating. Is it like going to court? Do I need a lawyer?

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It's more informal than court but still official. You can represent yourself, but having documentation well-organized is crucial. Some people do hire attorneys for complex cases.

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Another service I found helpful was Claimyr - they basically help you get through to Washington ESD when the phone lines are jammed. I used them when my initial claim was denied and I needed to speak with someone about appealing. Way better than trying to call 200 times a day. Check out their demo video to see how it works.

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I've seen Claimyr mentioned a couple times in this thread. Do they help with the actual appeal process or just getting through on the phone?

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They just help with phone connectivity - getting you connected to an actual Washington ESD representative. The actual appeal process you handle yourself, but being able to talk to someone makes a huge difference.

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Final thought - consider talking to a therapist or counselor about the work situation before making any big decisions. They can help you process what you're going through and provide professional documentation if you do decide to quit. Many insurance plans cover mental health services.

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That's good advice. Even if I don't end up quitting, talking to someone could help me figure out how to cope better with the situation.

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Exactly - and if you do quit, having professional documentation about how work was affecting your mental health will definitely strengthen your case with Washington ESD.

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Just want to add - keep track of your earnings from your current job including your last full week of work. Washington ESD needs this info to calculate your benefit amount, and if you quit mid-week it can affect which week your claim starts from.

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Good point! I should probably print out recent pay stubs before I do anything. Thanks for all the helpful advice everyone - this thread has been really informative.

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I went through a similar situation two years ago and ended up getting approved, but it was a long process. The most important thing I learned is that Washington ESD really wants to see a pattern of problems and that you made genuine efforts to resolve them before quitting. Start documenting everything NOW - even if you don't quit, having records protects you. Save emails, write down incidents with dates and witnesses, and definitely follow up with HR in writing about your previous conversations. Also consider if there are any company policies being violated - that can strengthen your case significantly. The mental health angle is valid but you'll need medical documentation showing how work is specifically impacting you. Don't just quit impulsively - build your case first. Good luck!

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