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Diego Mendoza

Washington ESD - if you quit your job are you eligible for unemployment benefits?

I'm thinking about quitting my job due to some issues with my supervisor but I'm worried about whether I'd be able to get unemployment benefits from Washington ESD. Does anyone know if you can still qualify for UI if you quit voluntarily? I've been working at this company for 2 years and paying into the system but I'm not sure how it works when you leave on your own terms rather than getting laid off.

Generally speaking, if you quit your job voluntarily you won't qualify for Washington ESD unemployment benefits. However, there are exceptions for what they call 'good cause' situations. Things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or certain personal circumstances might qualify you.

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What would count as good cause? My supervisor has been making the work environment pretty hostile but I'm not sure if that would qualify.

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Workplace harassment or a hostile work environment can potentially qualify as good cause, but you'd need to document everything and probably file a complaint with HR first. Washington ESD will want to see that you tried to resolve the situation before quitting.

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I actually went through this last year when I quit my job. Washington ESD denied me initially but I appealed and won because I had documented evidence of the unsafe working conditions. The key is having documentation and showing you tried other options first.

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How long did the appeal process take? And what kind of documentation did you need?

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The appeal took about 6 weeks total. I had emails, photos of the unsafe conditions, and witness statements from coworkers. Also had records showing I reported it to my supervisor multiple times with no action taken.

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Just be careful because even if you think you have good cause, Washington ESD is pretty strict about this stuff. I've seen people get denied even when they thought they had solid reasons. Maybe try talking to your HR department first or see if you can get transferred to a different department?

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HR at my company is pretty useless unfortunately. They tend to side with management on everything.

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wait so if I quit I can't get unemployment at all?? I thought everyone who worked could get it if they needed it

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No, unemployment insurance is specifically for people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own - like layoffs, company closures, or being fired for reasons other than misconduct. If you voluntarily quit, you generally don't qualify unless there's good cause.

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that seems unfair, what if your job is making you miserable

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Being miserable unfortunately isn't considered good cause by itself. It has to be something more serious like harassment, unsafe conditions, significant changes to your job terms, or certain personal emergencies.

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The whole system is rigged against workers anyway. They make it impossible to get benefits even when you deserve them. I've been fighting with Washington ESD for months over a disqualification and it's like talking to a brick wall.

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What happened with your claim? Are you still fighting it?

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They said I was fired for misconduct but it was really just a personality conflict with my boss. I'm trying to appeal but the process is a nightmare.

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Here's what I'd suggest - before you quit, document everything that's happening with your supervisor. Keep emails, write down incidents with dates and times, and if possible get witnesses. That way if you do decide to quit and apply for unemployment, you'll have evidence to support a good cause claim.

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That's good advice. I have been keeping some records but maybe I should be more systematic about it.

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Definitely. Also check if your company has any policies about hostile work environments or harassment that aren't being followed. That can strengthen your case.

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Also remember that even if you quit for good cause and get approved for unemployment, there might be a waiting period and you'll still need to meet all the regular requirements like job searching and filing weekly claims. It's not automatic money.

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How many jobs do you have to apply for each week in Washington?

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I think it's 3 job search activities per week but check the Washington ESD website for the current requirements. They can change.

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I quit my job two years ago because of health issues and got approved for unemployment. But I had to provide medical documentation and show that I tried to work with my employer on accommodations first. It wasn't easy but it worked out.

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Health issues can be good cause? I didn't know that.

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Yes, if your health condition prevents you from doing your job and your employer can't or won't provide reasonable accommodations, that can qualify. But you need proper medical documentation.

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Honestly the easiest thing might be to try to get yourself fired instead of quitting. Not saying do anything crazy but maybe just stop going above and beyond, show up exactly on time and leave exactly when you're supposed to, stuff like that.

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I wouldn't recommend trying to get fired. If Washington ESD determines you engaged in misconduct, you'll be disqualified from benefits. It's better to either try to resolve the situation or quit with proper documentation of good cause.

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I'm not talking about misconduct, just not being a model employee anymore. But yeah I guess that could backfire.

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You might want to consult with an employment attorney before making any decisions. Some will give free consultations and can tell you if your situation would likely qualify for good cause unemployment or if you have grounds for other legal action.

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That's probably smart. Do you know how to find employment attorneys who do free consultations?

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Check with the Washington State Bar Association, they have a lawyer referral service. Also some legal aid organizations offer free help for employment issues if you qualify income-wise.

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whatever you do dont just quit without having another job lined up!! even if you get unemployment its not gonna be enough to live on and it takes forever to get approved

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Yeah that's what I'm worried about. I've been looking for other jobs but the market is tough right now.

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maybe try to stick it out a little longer while you job hunt? or at least make sure you have some savings built up first

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I had a similar situation with a toxic supervisor and ended up staying way longer than I should have because I was worried about unemployment. Looking back I wish I had just documented everything properly and quit with good cause. The stress wasn't worth it.

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Did you eventually quit or find another job?

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I found another job but it took 8 months and my mental health really suffered. If I had it to do over I would have been more proactive about documenting the harassment and either filing complaints or quitting sooner.

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One more thing to consider - if you do decide to quit and apply for unemployment, be prepared for the process to take a while. Washington ESD will probably need to investigate your claim since you quit voluntarily, which means contacting your former employer and potentially holding a hearing.

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How long does that investigation usually take?

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It varies but probably at least 4-6 weeks, maybe longer if there's a hearing involved. That's why having another job lined up or savings is so important.

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Also keep in mind that your employer will fight the unemployment claim if you quit. They don't want their rates to go up so they'll probably argue that you didn't have good cause. Be prepared for that battle.

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Ugh I hadn't thought about that. They would probably make up stuff about my performance too.

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Exactly why documentation is so important. You need evidence to counter whatever they might say.

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The bottom line is that quitting usually disqualifies you from unemployment unless you can prove good cause. Good cause is pretty narrowly defined and you need solid documentation. If your situation is borderline, it might be worth staying and looking for another job instead.

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Yeah that seems to be the consensus. I guess I need to really evaluate whether my situation would meet their definition of good cause.

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Exactly. And remember even if you think you have good cause, Washington ESD might disagree and then you're stuck without income while you try to appeal.

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Just wanted to add that constructive discharge is another option to look into. If your employer is making working conditions so intolerable that any reasonable person would quit, that might qualify you for benefits even though you technically quit.

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What's the difference between that and regular good cause?

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Constructive discharge is when the employer basically forces you to quit through their actions. It's treated more like being fired than quitting voluntarily. But it's hard to prove and you still need solid documentation.

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This thread has been really helpful! I'm in a somewhat similar situation and was wondering the same thing. Sounds like the key is documentation and making sure you really have good cause before taking the leap.

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Glad it helped! I'm definitely going to be more careful about documenting everything going forward.

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Same here. Better to be prepared just in case.

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One last tip - if you do quit and apply for unemployment, don't lie or exaggerate on your application. Washington ESD will investigate and if they find out you weren't truthful, you could be disqualified and have to pay back any benefits you received.

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Good point. Honesty is definitely the best policy even if it makes getting approved harder.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I think I'm going to focus on documenting the issues with my supervisor while continuing to look for other jobs. If things get worse I'll at least have the evidence I need to make a case for good cause unemployment.

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That sounds like a smart approach. Good luck with everything!

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Hope it works out for you. Keep us posted on how things go.

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