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If someone resigns are they eligible for unemployment in Washington - confused about the rules

I'm thinking about quitting my job due to some workplace issues but I'm not sure if I'd be able to get unemployment benefits afterward. Does anyone know if Washington ESD allows you to collect benefits if you resign voluntarily? I've heard conflicting information and want to make sure I understand the rules before making any decisions. My situation involves some harassment from my supervisor but I'm not sure if that counts as 'good cause' or whatever the requirement is.

Generally speaking, if you quit voluntarily you won't be eligible for unemployment benefits unless you can prove you had 'good cause' for leaving. Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties or pay. You'll need to document everything if you're thinking about quitting.

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What kind of documentation would I need? I have some emails but nothing too specific about the harassment.

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Save all emails, text messages, write down dates and times of incidents, get witness statements if possible. The more evidence you have, the better your case will be if Washington ESD questions your resignation.

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i quit my last job and got denied for benefits. had to appeal and it took months. unless you have really solid proof of harassment or unsafe conditions, they'll probably deny you initially

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Did you eventually win your appeal? What kind of proof did they accept?

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yeah i won but it took like 4 months total. had to get a lawyer involved. not fun

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Never heard of this service before. Did it actually work for you?

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Yeah, saved me probably 20+ hours of trying to call myself. Got connected within a few days and was able to ask specific questions about my situation before making any decisions.

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Interesting, I might look into this. I've been trying to reach someone at ESD for weeks about my claim status.

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The key thing is you need to show you had no reasonable alternative but to quit. Harassment definitely can qualify but you need solid evidence. Have you tried talking to HR first? Washington ESD will want to know you attempted to resolve the issue before quitting.

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HR is pretty useless at my company. They basically told me to 'work it out' with my supervisor when I complained before.

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Document that conversation too! The fact that you went to HR and they failed to address the harassment actually strengthens your case for good cause.

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Whatever you do, don't just quit without filing for unemployment immediately. You have to apply within a certain timeframe or you might lose your eligibility entirely. I think it's like 4 weeks but double check that.

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Good point, I hadn't thought about timing. Do you know if there's a waiting period after you quit?

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There's usually a one week waiting period for any unemployment claim, but if you quit voluntarily you might face additional penalties or disqualification periods depending on the circumstances.

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The Washington ESD system is so frustrating to navigate. I spent literally hours on the phone trying to get answers about my eligibility after I quit my toxic job. Finally got through using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it was totally worth it.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already stressed about money if I quit.

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Honestly can't remember the exact cost but it was way less than what I would have lost by not getting benefits. Plus no more sitting on hold for hours.

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Make sure you understand the difference between being terminated and resigning. If your employer is creating a hostile work environment, sometimes it's better to let them fire you rather than quit. That way you have a stronger case for unemployment benefits.

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That's an interesting strategy. But what if they don't fire me and I'm just stuck in a terrible situation?

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That's the risk. You'd need to weigh whether you can tolerate the situation long enough to either get fired or build a stronger case for constructive dismissal.

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Constructive dismissal is really hard to prove though. Most people don't have enough evidence to make that stick.

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been there done that. quit my job last year because of harassment and got denied for UI benefits. took forever to appeal and had to prove my case. wish i had known about better ways to contact ESD back then

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What happened with your appeal? Did you eventually get benefits?

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yeah but it took like 6 months total. was a nightmare. definitely document everything before you quit

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS! They make it so hard to get benefits even when you have legitimate reasons for quitting. I swear they just want to deny everyone automatically.

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I mean, they have to prevent fraud but yeah the system definitely feels like it's designed to discourage people from applying.

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It's not about fraud prevention, it's about saving money by making the process so difficult that people give up.

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Quick question - do you have to be actively looking for work while your claim is being processed? I remember having to do weekly job searches even during the appeal process.

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Yes, you still need to meet the job search requirements even if you're appealing a denial. Usually 3 job search activities per week in Washington.

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Good to know. I should probably start looking now even before I make any decisions about quitting.

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I was in a similar boat and ended up staying at my job longer than I wanted to while I built my case. Started documenting everything, saved emails, got witnesses. When I finally did quit, my unemployment claim was approved pretty quickly because I had solid evidence.

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How long did you document things before quitting? I'm not sure I can handle months more of this situation.

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About 2 months. I know it's hard but having that documentation made all the difference in my case being approved.

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Another option might be to see if you can get a reduced schedule or take leave while you figure things out. Sometimes that can help you qualify for partial unemployment benefits.

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That's actually a good idea. I hadn't thought about partial benefits. Would that still work if the harassment is from my direct supervisor?

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It might be difficult if your supervisor is the problem, but you could potentially request a transfer to a different department or work with HR to find a solution.

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Whatever you decide, make sure you have a plan for health insurance too. COBRA is expensive and if you're not sure about getting unemployment benefits, you don't want to be stuck without coverage.

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Oh god, I hadn't even thought about health insurance. This is getting complicated.

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Yeah it's a lot to consider. Maybe talk to a lawyer who specializes in employment law? Many do free consultations.

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i tried that claimyr thing mentioned earlier and it actually worked great. got connected to an ESD agent in like 2 days instead of calling for weeks. really helped me understand my options before making any big decisions

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Did they charge you right away or only after they connected you?

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they explain the whole process on their website. check out that demo video someone posted earlier, it shows exactly how it works

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The most important thing is to apply for unemployment benefits immediately after you quit, even if you think you might get denied. You can always appeal a denial, but you can't go back and apply later if you miss the deadline.

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How long do you have to apply after quitting?

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I believe it's within a few weeks but I'd check the Washington ESD website to be sure. Don't wait too long though.

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Just want to add that if you do end up appealing a denial, you might want to consider getting representation. The appeals process can be complex and having someone who knows the system can really help.

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Are there free legal services for unemployment appeals?

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Some legal aid organizations help with unemployment cases. You could also look into whether your local bar association has any pro bono programs.

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Bottom line - if you're dealing with harassment or unsafe conditions, you may have a case for benefits even after quitting voluntarily. But you need solid documentation and should be prepared for the process to take time. Don't let a bad situation get worse though - your mental health is important too.

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Thank you, this has been really helpful. I think I'm going to start documenting everything more carefully and maybe try to get connected with someone at ESD to discuss my specific situation.

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That sounds like a smart approach. Take care of yourself and don't let anyone make you feel like you have to stay in an abusive situation.

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Definitely recommend getting connected with ESD first. Having that conversation before you make any decisions can save you a lot of hassle later on.

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I'm going through something similar right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful. One thing I learned from my research is that Washington does recognize "constructive discharge" - basically when working conditions become so intolerable that a reasonable person would feel compelled to quit. The key is showing that you made reasonable efforts to resolve the situation first and that quitting was your last resort. Document every incident with dates, times, witnesses if any, and keep records of any complaints you've made to HR or management. Even if HR was unhelpful, having that paper trail shows you tried to work within the system before leaving.

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