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Madison Tipne

Can you collect unemployment if you quit your job in Washington ESD system?

I've been at my current job for 2 years but the working conditions have gotten really bad. My supervisor is creating a hostile work environment and I'm considering quitting, but I'm worried about being able to collect unemployment benefits afterward. Does Washington ESD allow you to collect unemployment if you quit your job voluntarily? I know there's something called 'good cause' but I'm not sure what qualifies. Has anyone successfully gotten unemployment after quitting? I really need to know before I make this decision because I can't afford to be without income.

Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit with 'good cause' but it's pretty strict. You need to prove things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job terms. Document everything - emails, incidents, witnesses. The burden of proof is on you to show you had no choice but to quit.

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What kind of documentation would be best? I have some emails but mostly it's verbal harassment from my supervisor.

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Keep a detailed log with dates, times, witnesses present. Email yourself summaries after incidents. HR complaints help too if you file them.

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i quit my last job because of my boss being terrible and got denied for unemployment. washington esd said i didnt have good cause even though he was awful to work for

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Did you appeal the decision? I heard you can fight it if you have evidence.

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yeah i tried but didnt have enough proof i guess. wish i had documented more stuff

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Before you quit, try to get fired instead if possible. I know that sounds weird but if you can document the hostile environment and force them to terminate you, your unemployment claim becomes much stronger. Washington ESD scrutinizes voluntary quits really carefully.

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How would I go about that without getting a bad reference? I might need them for future jobs.

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That's the tricky part. Sometimes you can't have it both ways. Maybe consult with an employment attorney first?

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I had success using Claimyr (claimyr.com) when I needed to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD about my quit situation. The phone system is impossible otherwise - I was getting disconnected constantly. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Really helped me get through to explain my circumstances to an actual person instead of just filing online and hoping for the best.

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How much does that cost? I'm already tight on money which is why I need to quit this job.

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It was worth it for me because I got my claim approved after explaining everything properly to an agent. Much better than playing phone tag for weeks.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS! They make it impossible to quit even when your boss is making your life hell. I've seen so many people get denied for quitting jobs that were literally making them sick. Washington ESD protects employers more than employees.

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While I understand the frustration, Washington ESD does have to prevent fraud. There are legitimate cases where good cause exists.

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Maybe but they make you jump through so many hoops that most people give up. It's designed to discourage claims.

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The specific Washington ESD criteria for 'good cause' includes: sexual harassment, discrimination based on protected class, unsafe working conditions that violate OSHA standards, significant reduction in hours/pay, and a few other specific situations. General unhappiness with your boss or job duties typically doesn't qualify unless it rises to the level of creating an unbearable work environment.

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My situation involves verbal abuse and possibly sexual harassment. Would that qualify as good cause?

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Sexual harassment definitely can qualify as good cause. Document everything and consider filing a complaint with HR or EEOC before quitting.

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also just fyi the adjudication process takes FOREVER if you quit. even if you have good cause they still investigate everything. mine took like 8 weeks

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8 weeks?? How did you survive financially during that time?

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barely. had to borrow money from family. thats why i say try to get fired instead if you can

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One thing people don't realize is that even if Washington ESD initially denies your quit claim, you can appeal and sometimes win at the hearing level. The administrative law judges sometimes take a broader view of 'good cause' than the initial reviewers do.

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How long does the appeal process take? And do I need a lawyer?

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Appeals usually take 4-6 weeks after you request them. You don't need a lawyer but having one helps if the case is complex.

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My friend used that Claimyr service too when she quit her job due to harassment. She said it was really helpful to actually explain her situation to a real person at Washington ESD instead of just hoping the online application captured everything correctly. Sometimes these situations are too complex for the automated system.

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Did your friend's claim get approved?

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Yes, but it took some back and forth. The agent was able to ask specific questions about her situation that helped build the case.

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Whatever you do, don't just quit without filing for unemployment immediately after. Some people think they should wait or that quitting means they're automatically disqualified. File your claim right away and let Washington ESD make the determination.

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Good point. I was thinking I should wait until I had another job lined up but that could take months.

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Exactly. File immediately and start your job search requirements right away even if the claim is under review.

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Also remember that if you do quit and get approved for benefits, you'll still need to meet all the regular requirements - job search activities, weekly claims, etc. Having 'good cause' to quit doesn't exempt you from the ongoing eligibility requirements.

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How many job search activities do you need per week in Washington?

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It's typically 3 job search activities per week, but it can vary based on your situation. WorkSourceWA has the current requirements.

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i quit my job last year because my boss was racist and hostile. washington esd approved my claim but it took like 6 weeks and i had to provide tons of documentation. was worth it though

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What kind of documentation did you provide? I'm trying to prepare my case.

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emails, witness statements from coworkers, hr complaint i filed, even some text messages. basically anything that showed the pattern of behavior

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One more thing about Claimyr - when I was dealing with my quit situation, I couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks. The agents there were able to help me understand exactly what evidence would strengthen my case. Sometimes talking it through with someone who knows the system makes all the difference.

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How quickly were you able to get through using their service?

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Same day I signed up. Way better than the endless busy signals and disconnected calls I was getting before.

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Just want to add that constructive discharge is another option to consider. If your employer is making conditions so bad that any reasonable person would quit, that can sometimes be treated like a termination rather than a voluntary quit. But you need really strong evidence.

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What counts as constructive discharge? My boss has been making my work environment pretty unbearable.

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Things like drastically changing your job duties, cutting your hours significantly, or creating such a hostile environment that continuing to work becomes unreasonable.

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been following this thread because im in a similar situation. my supervisor has been targeting me since i complained about safety issues. thinking about quitting but scared about the financial impact

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Safety issues could definitely qualify as good cause! Have you documented the problems?

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some, but not as much as i should have. going to start keeping better records after reading this thread

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Final advice: don't quit impulsively. Build your case first - document everything, file internal complaints if appropriate, consult with an attorney if needed. The stronger your evidence, the better your chances with Washington ESD. And remember, even if you're initially denied, the appeal process exists for a reason.

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This has been really helpful. I think I need to spend more time documenting before I make any decisions.

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Smart approach. Take your time and build a solid case. Your future financial security is worth the extra effort.

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also dont forget that even if you get approved for unemployment after quitting, the weekly benefit amount might be less than if you were laid off. washington esd sometimes reduces benefits for voluntary quits even with good cause

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Really? I didn't know they could reduce the amount. How much less are we talking?

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That's not accurate. If you have good cause, your benefits should be the same as any other approved claim. The amount is based on your wage history, not how you became unemployed.

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My experience was different from some others here. I quit due to harassment and Washington ESD approved my claim pretty quickly - only took about 3 weeks. I think having HR documentation and witness statements really helped. Don't let the horror stories scare you if you have a legitimate case.

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That's encouraging to hear. Did you have to go through an interview process?

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Yes, they called me once to ask some follow-up questions about the timeline and witnesses. Nothing too intense.

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Whatever you decide, make sure you understand the job search requirements before you quit. You'll need to be actively looking for work and able/available to accept suitable employment. Can't just quit and take a vacation while collecting benefits.

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Good point. I'm definitely planning to start job searching immediately if I quit.

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Also remember to keep detailed records of your job search activities. Washington ESD audits those pretty regularly.

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thanks for this thread everyone. ive been dealing with a toxic workplace too and didnt know quitting could still make you eligible for unemployment in some cases. definitely going to document everything going forward

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Glad this helped someone else too. It's been really informative for me as well.

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yeah definitely. knowledge is power when dealing with washington esd

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