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Paolo Longo

Can I collect Washington ESD unemployment if I resign from my job voluntarily?

I'm thinking about quitting my job because of some serious issues with management and wondering if I can still get unemployment benefits in Washington. The situation at work has become really toxic - my supervisor has been making unreasonable demands and creating a hostile environment. I know generally you can't get UI if you quit, but I've heard there might be exceptions for good cause. Does anyone know what Washington ESD considers 'good cause' for quitting? I really need to leave this job for my mental health but I can't afford to be without income.

Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit for 'good cause' but the bar is pretty high. You need to show that a reasonable person would have quit under the same circumstances. Hostile work environment can qualify but you need documentation - emails, witness statements, complaints to HR, etc. Did you try to resolve the issues through proper channels first?

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I did complain to HR twice but they basically brushed it off. I don't have copies of the emails though - should I try to get those before I quit?

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Yes absolutely get copies of everything! Washington ESD will want proof that you attempted to resolve the situation. Also document specific incidents with dates and any witnesses.

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i quit my last job cause my boss was a jerk and got denied for benefits. washington esd said i didn't have good enough reason. its really hard to prove unless its like sexual harassment or something illegal

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That's what I'm worried about. How do I prove the environment is 'hostile' enough? My boss isn't doing anything illegal, just making my life miserable.

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Document everything! Keep a journal of incidents, save any texts or emails that show the hostile behavior. The more evidence you have, the better your chances with Washington ESD.

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I went through this exact situation last year and it was a nightmare trying to get through to Washington ESD to explain my case. Spent weeks calling and either getting busy signals or being on hold for hours just to get disconnected. If you do decide to quit, be prepared for a long fight to get your benefits approved. I actually found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual agent - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me so much frustration.

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How did your case turn out? Did Washington ESD approve your benefits after you quit?

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Eventually yes, but it took 2 months and I had to provide tons of documentation. Having someone help me reach an agent to explain my situation properly made all the difference.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but might need to look into it. The phone system for Washington ESD is absolutely broken.

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Before you quit, make sure you understand what Washington ESD requires. Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties or pay, harassment, or discrimination. But you have to show you tried to fix the problem first. If your employer retaliates against you for complaining, that can also be good cause.

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What counts as 'significant changes'? My boss has been piling on extra responsibilities that weren't in my job description.

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That could potentially qualify if the changes are substantial enough that it's essentially a different job than what you were hired for. Washington ESD looks at whether the changes would cause a reasonable person to quit.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED! They'll find any excuse to deny you benefits even if you have a legitimate reason for quitting. I had documented proof of workplace harassment and Washington ESD still made me jump through hoops for months. They don't care about workers, they just want to save money!

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That's discouraging but I guess I need to be prepared for a fight. Did you eventually get approved?

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After 4 months and threatening to get a lawyer involved, yes. But I almost lost my apartment waiting for the decision.

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Here's what I learned when I helped my sister through this process: Washington ESD wants to see that you made 'reasonable efforts' to resolve the problem before quitting. This means complaining to supervisors, HR, following company procedures, etc. Also timing matters - you can't wait months after an incident to quit and claim it was the reason.

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The incidents are ongoing, not just one-time things. Should I document each occurrence separately?

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Yes, keep a detailed log with dates, times, what happened, who was involved, and any witnesses. This will be crucial if you have to appeal a denial.

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just wanted to say hang in there, toxic workplaces are the worst. i stayed too long in mine and it really messed with my head

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Thanks, I appreciate that. It's affecting my sleep and everything. I know I need to get out but I'm scared about the financial aspect.

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One more thing to consider - if you quit for good cause and Washington ESD initially denies your claim, you have the right to appeal. The appeal process gives you a chance to present your case to an administrative law judge who might see things differently than the initial reviewer. Don't give up if you get that first denial letter.

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How long does the appeal process usually take? I need to know what I'm looking at timeline-wise.

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Appeals can take 6-8 weeks to get scheduled, sometimes longer if they're backlog. But if you win your appeal, you'll get back pay for all the weeks you were denied.

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honestly the whole thing is such a pain. even if you have good cause they make it so hard to prove. i ended up taking another crappy job just to pay bills while fighting with washington esd

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That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. This whole system seems designed to discourage people from applying.

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I mentioned Claimyr earlier and just wanted to add that it really helped when I needed to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my quit situation. The regular phone system is impossible but having someone who knows how to get through saved me weeks of frustration. Worth checking out if you go down this path.

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How much does something like that cost? Sounds too good to be true.

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I'd rather pay a reasonable fee than waste weeks of my life on hold. Check out their site for details - for me it was worth every penny to actually speak to a human being.

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Another option to consider - see if your employer will agree to a 'constructive discharge' situation where they acknowledge the working conditions were unreasonable. Some employers will do this to avoid potential lawsuits. If they agree in writing that the situation was untenable, Washington ESD is much more likely to approve your claim.

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Interesting idea but I doubt my employer would admit to anything like that. They seem to think the problem is with me, not them.

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Document everything but don't get your hopes up. Washington ESD denied my cousin even though she had her doctor's note saying the stress was affecting her health. They said she should have taken FMLA instead of quitting. THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS BROKEN!

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Wait, would FMLA be a better option? I hadn't thought about that angle.

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FMLA protects your job but doesn't provide income. You'd need to have short-term disability coverage or use vacation time to get paid during FMLA leave.

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My advice is to try to get fired instead of quitting if possible. Stop going above and beyond, do only what's required, and let them make the decision to let you go. Much easier to get unemployment if you're terminated than if you quit.

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I've thought about that but I'm worried they'll fire me 'for cause' and then I'd be in an even worse position with Washington ESD.

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As long as you're not doing anything that would constitute misconduct, being fired for poor performance still qualifies you for benefits. Just don't do anything that could be seen as insubordination or violation of company policy.

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I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned and it actually worked. Took about 20 minutes to connect me to a Washington ESD agent instead of the usual hours of waiting. When you're dealing with a quit situation you really need to be able to explain the circumstances properly to someone who understands the rules.

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Good to hear another positive review. Might be worth it just to understand what my chances are before I make the decision to quit.

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whatever you decide make sure you file for benefits immediately after quitting. dont wait thinking you need to have all your documentation perfect first. you can always provide additional evidence later but you cant backdate your claim if you wait too long

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Good point, I didn't realize there were timing issues with filing. How quickly do you have to file after leaving a job?

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You should file within the first week after your last day of work. Washington ESD has specific rules about when your benefit year starts and you don't want to lose any potential payments.

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Final thought - consider consulting with an employment attorney before you quit. Many offer free consultations and can tell you if your situation would likely qualify for good cause with Washington ESD. They might also identify other legal options you haven't considered like filing a complaint with L&I for workplace safety issues.

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That's a really good idea. Even if I don't hire them, getting a professional opinion on my situation could help me decide whether to quit or stick it out.

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been following this thread and just want to say you're not alone. toxic jobs are everywhere and the unemployment system makes it so hard for people in your situation. hope you find a way out that works for you

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Thank you, it helps to know other people understand what I'm going through. This whole thread has been really helpful.

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One last thing about Claimyr - when I used them for my quit situation, being able to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD made all the difference. The agent was able to explain exactly what documentation I needed and what the review process would look like. Way better than trying to figure it out from their website or waiting on hold forever.

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Thanks for mentioning it multiple times - I'm definitely going to check it out. Sounds like having that direct contact could save a lot of time and stress.

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good luck with whatever you decide. just remember that no job is worth your mental health and there are always other opportunities out there. sometimes taking the risk is better than staying miserable

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You're right, I need to remember that. Thanks for the encouragement - it's been really helpful getting all these different perspectives.

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Hope this thread has been helpful! The key points to remember: document everything, try to resolve issues through proper channels first, file immediately if you do quit, and don't be afraid to appeal if you get denied. Washington ESD does approve good cause quits, but you need to build a strong case.

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This has been incredibly helpful. I feel like I have a much better understanding of what I'm facing and how to approach it. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and advice!

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