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Isabella Oliveira

Can you quit a job and still collect unemployment Washington ESD - what are the rules?

I'm in a really toxic work situation and thinking about quitting but I need to know if I can still get unemployment benefits in Washington. My manager has been making my life hell and creating a hostile work environment but I don't have documentation of everything. Would Washington ESD approve my claim if I quit for good cause? What counts as good cause when you quit vs getting fired? I can't afford to be without income but I also can't keep working there.

Ravi Patel

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Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit for good cause, but the bar is pretty high. You need to show that a reasonable person would have quit under the same circumstances. Hostile work environment can qualify but you'll need documentation - emails, witness statements, complaints to HR, etc. The key is proving you tried to resolve the situation first before quitting.

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I don't have much documentation unfortunately. Just a few text messages from coworkers about incidents. Is that enough?

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Ravi Patel

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Text messages can help but you'll want more. Try to get written statements from coworkers if possible, or document any future incidents in writing before you quit.

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I quit my job last year for similar reasons and got approved for benefits. The Washington ESD adjudicator told me they look at whether you made reasonable efforts to keep your job. I had filed complaints with HR and tried to transfer departments first. That documentation really helped my case during the phone interview.

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How long did the adjudication process take? I'm worried about waiting weeks without income.

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Mine took about 6 weeks total. The phone interview was scheduled about 3 weeks after I filed, then took another 2-3 weeks for the decision.

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Omar Zaki

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Have you tried calling Washington ESD to discuss your situation before quitting? I know their phone lines are always busy but there's actually a service called Claimyr that helps people get through to ESD agents. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Might be worth getting official guidance before you make the leap.

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I hadn't thought about calling them first. That's actually a really good idea to get their take on my situation.

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Yeah the ESD phone lines are impossible to get through normally. I spent days trying to call about my claim before someone told me about Claimyr.

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Good cause for quitting is really specific in Washington. It has to be something that would cause a reasonable person to quit - like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or discrimination. Just having a bad boss usually isn't enough unless they're doing something that violates labor laws.

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What if my boss is making me work overtime without pay and threatening to fire me if I don't? Would that count?

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That could definitely count as good cause! Wage theft and threats are serious violations. Make sure you document those conversations if possible.

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Diego Flores

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You should also file a complaint with the Department of Labor about the unpaid overtime. That creates an official record.

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I'm going through this exact situation right now! Filed for unemployment after quitting due to harassment and I'm still waiting for my adjudication decision. The waiting is killing me financially but I couldn't stay in that toxic environment. The ESD phone interview was pretty thorough - they asked about every attempt I made to resolve things internally.

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What kind of questions did they ask during the phone interview? I want to be prepared.

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They asked about specific incidents, what I did to try to fix the situation, whether I talked to HR or management, and why I felt I had no choice but to quit. Have dates and details ready.

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Sean Flanagan

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Don't quit unless you absolutely have to. Washington ESD will deny your claim if they think you had other options. Try talking to HR first, request a transfer, or look for another job while you're still employed. Quitting should be your last resort.

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I work for a small company with no HR department. My boss is the owner so there's nowhere to go internally.

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Sean Flanagan

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That makes it tougher but document everything anyway. Small companies aren't exempt from labor laws.

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Zara Mirza

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whatever you do dont just walk out. if you quit you have to prove good cause or they'll deny your claim. its really hard to prove. better to let them fire you if its that bad

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Ravi Patel

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While getting fired is easier for unemployment purposes, that's not always realistic advice. Sometimes people need to quit for their mental health or safety.

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Zara Mirza

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true but financially its a lot safer to get fired than quit and get denied benefits

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NebulaNinja

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I successfully got benefits after quitting for good cause but it was a nightmare process. Had to provide witness statements, emails, and went through multiple appeals. The whole thing took almost 4 months. Make sure you have a solid case before you quit because the burden of proof is on you.

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Four months?! How did you survive financially during that time?

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NebulaNinja

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I had to borrow money from family and took on some gig work. It was really stressful but ultimately worth it for my mental health.

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Luca Russo

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Check if your situation qualifies as constructive dismissal too. If your employer is making working conditions so intolerable that any reasonable person would quit, that's basically the same as being fired. Washington ESD recognizes this but you need strong documentation.

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I've never heard of constructive dismissal before. How do you prove that?

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Luca Russo

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You need to show that your employer intentionally made your job impossible or unbearable. Things like drastically changing your duties, cutting your hours, or creating a hostile environment.

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Nia Wilson

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honestly the unemployment system is so messed up. they make it nearly impossible to get benefits when you quit even for legit reasons. i know people who stayed in abusive jobs because they were scared of losing benefits. its ridiculous

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Mateo Sanchez

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I agree the system needs reform but there are legitimate reasons they make it harder to get benefits when you quit. Otherwise everyone would just quit and collect unemployment.

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Nia Wilson

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yeah but they go too far the other way. people shouldnt have to choose between their safety and being able to eat

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Aisha Mahmood

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You might want to consult with an employment attorney before you quit. Many offer free consultations and can tell you if you have a strong case for good cause. They can also help you document everything properly.

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I hadn't thought about talking to a lawyer. That's a good idea even if I don't end up suing.

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Aisha Mahmood

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Exactly, they can help you understand your rights and make sure you're documenting things correctly for your unemployment claim.

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Ethan Clark

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Make sure you apply for benefits immediately after you quit, don't wait. The longer you wait the more questions they'll ask about why you didn't file right away. Also be completely honest on your application - if they find out you lied about anything they'll deny your claim.

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Good point about applying right away. I'll definitely be honest about everything even if it hurts my case.

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AstroAce

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I used Claimyr when I needed to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my good cause quit situation. Got through to an agent the same day I tried their service instead of spending weeks trying to call myself. Really helped me understand what documentation I needed before my adjudication interview.

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That sounds really helpful. I'll definitely check out their website if I decide to quit.

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Same here - Claimyr saved me so much time and stress. The agent I talked to gave me specific advice about my situation.

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Carmen Vega

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Just want to add that if you do quit and get denied initially, don't give up. You can appeal the decision and many people win on appeal with better documentation or legal help. The initial denial isn't the end of the road.

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Thanks for the encouragement. It's good to know there are options even if the first decision doesn't go my way.

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Carmen Vega

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Absolutely. I know several people who lost initially but won on appeal. The key is having your documentation organized and presenting a clear case.

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Whatever you decide, start looking for other jobs now while you're still employed. Even if you get approved for unemployment, benefits don't last forever and the job market is competitive right now.

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You're right, I should start job hunting regardless. Thanks for all the advice everyone - this has been really helpful.

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Ravi Patel

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Good luck with whatever you decide. Just remember to document everything and be prepared for a potentially long process if you do quit.

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