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If I quit do I qualify for unemployment in Washington - need to know my options

I'm in a really toxic work situation and I'm thinking about quitting my job. My manager has been making my life miserable and creating a hostile work environment. I know usually you can't get unemployment if you quit, but I've heard there might be exceptions. Does anyone know if Washington ESD considers quitting for good cause? I really need to get out of this job but I can't afford to be without income. What are my options here?

Yes, Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit for "good cause" but it's pretty strict about what qualifies. You'll need to document everything - harassment, unsafe conditions, major changes to your job that weren't agreed to, etc. The key is having proof and showing you tried to resolve it first.

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What kind of documentation do I need? I have some emails but not sure if that's enough.

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Emails are good, also keep records of any meetings, witnesses, HR complaints you filed, anything that shows the pattern of problems and your attempts to fix them.

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I quit my job last year for similar reasons and got approved for benefits. The process took about 6 weeks though because they had to investigate. I had to provide written statements, evidence of the harassment, and proof that I tried to work with HR first. Washington ESD will do a fact-finding interview with both you and your employer.

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6 weeks is a long time to wait! Did you have any income during that period?

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No, that's the tough part. You have to survive without income while they investigate. That's why documentation is so important - the stronger your case, the more likely they'll approve it.

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Never heard of Claimyr but I'm definitely going to check it out. I've tried calling Washington ESD so many times and just get busy signals.

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Be really careful about quitting without having everything documented perfectly. I quit thinking I had good cause but Washington ESD denied me because I didn't have enough evidence. Had to appeal and it took months to get resolved. Make sure you have written proof of everything!

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What happened with your appeal? Did you eventually get benefits?

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Yeah I won the appeal but it was stressful and took forever. I had to get a lawyer involved which was expensive. Document everything NOW before you quit.

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The Washington ESD website has a section about voluntary quit situations but it's pretty vague. From what I understand, you need to show that a reasonable person would have quit under the same circumstances. Things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, or significant changes to your job duties without agreement can qualify.

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That's helpful. My situation definitely involves harassment and they've changed my job duties without asking.

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Make sure you follow their internal complaint process first though. If you don't try to resolve it through proper channels, Washington ESD might say you didn't exhaust all options.

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I'm dealing with something similar. My boss has been making racist comments and I've reported it to HR multiple times with no action. I'm documenting everything but I'm scared to quit because I need the income. This is such a difficult situation.

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Discrimination definitely qualifies as good cause. Keep documenting everything and consider filing a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission too.

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That sounds even worse than my situation. I hope you can get out of there soon.

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Whatever you do, don't just walk out. Give proper notice and make sure your final documentation is submitted before you quit. I've seen people lose their cases because they quit improperly even though they had good cause.

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Good point. I was so frustrated I was ready to just walk out but I need to be strategic about this.

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The fact-finding process is really thorough. They'll interview you, your employer, and any witnesses. Be prepared to explain exactly what happened, when it happened, and what you did to try to fix it. They want to see that quitting was your last resort.

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That's intimidating but I guess it's necessary to prevent fraud.

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It is intimidating but if you have a legitimate case, the process works. Just be honest and have your documentation organized.

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I used Claimyr when I was going through my good cause determination and the agent was super helpful in explaining what Washington ESD would be looking for. Saved me a lot of confusion about the process.

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Seems like a lot of people have had success with that service. I might try it.

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Don't forget that even if you get approved, there might be a waiting period before benefits start. Plan accordingly because you might be without income for several weeks while everything processes.

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Yeah that's what I'm worried about. I need to save up some money first.

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The Washington ESD good cause criteria includes things like domestic violence situations, stalking, harassment, discrimination, unsafe working conditions, and significant changes to job duties or pay. But you really need solid documentation for any of these.

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This is really helpful. I think my situation fits under harassment but I need to make sure I have enough proof.

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I quit for good cause two years ago and got benefits but it was nerve-wracking waiting for the decision. Make sure you file your claim immediately after quitting and be prepared for a thorough investigation. The waiting is the hardest part.

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How long did your investigation take?

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About 8 weeks total. They had to interview several people and review all my documentation. But once approved, I got backpay for the waiting period.

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Just want to add that if you do quit and get denied initially, don't give up. The appeals process exists for a reason and sometimes they get it wrong the first time. I know several people who won on appeal.

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That's encouraging. I was worried that a denial would be final.

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Make sure you're also meeting the work search requirements while your claim is being processed. Even during the investigation period, you still need to be actively looking for work and documenting it.

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Good reminder. I need to start preparing for the job search process too.

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The key thing to remember is that Washington ESD looks at whether your reason for quitting was compelling and whether you had reasonable alternatives. If you can show both, you have a good chance of approval.

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That makes sense. I need to think through all the alternatives I've tried.

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I was skeptical about using Claimyr but honestly it was worth it just to get clear information about the good cause process. The agent I spoke with had handled lots of similar cases and knew exactly what Washington ESD looks for.

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I'm convinced. Going to try it this week.

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One more thing - if you do quit, make sure you keep copies of everything you submit to Washington ESD. The process involves a lot of paperwork and you'll want your own records.

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Great advice. I'm starting a folder now to keep everything organized.

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This thread has been really helpful. I'm in a similar situation and was afraid I'd be stuck with no options. Good to know Washington ESD does consider legitimate cases of good cause.

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Yeah, I feel much better about my situation now. Still scary but at least I have a plan.

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Best of luck with whatever you decide. Having a toxic work environment is terrible for your mental health. Sometimes quitting is the right choice even if it means dealing with the unemployment process.

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Thank you. I'm feeling more confident about moving forward now.

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Final tip - when you do your fact-finding interview, be specific about dates, times, and exactly what happened. Vague answers won't help your case. The more detailed and factual you can be, the better.

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I'll make sure to have a timeline prepared. Thanks for all the advice everyone!

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