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What reasons can you quit a job and still get unemployment with Washington ESD?

I'm in a really toxic work situation where my supervisor has been making inappropriate comments and the company won't do anything about it. I'm thinking about quitting but I need to know if I'd still qualify for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. What are the valid reasons you can quit and still get approved? I can't afford to be without income but I also can't stay in this environment much longer.

Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit for 'good cause' but it has to meet their specific criteria. The main reasons include: unsafe working conditions, harassment or discrimination, significant changes to your job duties or pay, domestic violence situations, or medical reasons. You'll need solid documentation though - they don't just take your word for it.

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Do you know what kind of documentation they need for harassment? I've been keeping emails but my supervisor is usually more careful about what he puts in writing.

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Emails are good, but also document dates/times of incidents, any witnesses, and whether you reported it to HR. If you have written complaints to management, that's even better.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Washington ESD approved my claim after I quit due to workplace harassment. The key is proving you tried to resolve it first and that quitting was your last reasonable option. Make sure you file a formal HR complaint before you quit if possible.

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How long did the adjudication process take for your claim? I'm worried about the gap in income while they decide.

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Mine took about 5 weeks total. The adjudication part was around 3 weeks because they had to contact my former employer and review all the documentation I submitted.

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Just so you know, if you quit without good cause, Washington ESD will disqualify you for benefits. But harassment definitely counts as good cause if you can prove it. The tricky part is reaching someone at Washington ESD to actually discuss your situation - their phone lines are always jammed. I used Claimyr.com last month to get through to an actual agent and they explained exactly what documentation I needed for my good cause quit. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Never heard of Claimyr before - does it actually work for getting through to Washington ESD?

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Yeah it worked for me after trying to call for two weeks straight. They basically call for you and connect you when an agent picks up. Saved me hours of redialing.

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The Washington ESD good cause standards are pretty strict though. They look at whether you made reasonable efforts to keep your job first. If you just walk out without trying to fix the problem through proper channels, they might deny your claim even if the harassment was real.

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That's what I'm worried about. HR at my company is basically useless but I guess I need to file a complaint anyway to show I tried.

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HR complaints create a paper trail which is exactly what Washington ESD wants to see. Even if HR doesn't fix it, you've documented that you attempted to resolve it.

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ugh i quit my job last month bc my boss was awful but didnt know about the good cause thing. washington esd denied my claim and now im screwed financially. wish id known this stuff before i walked out

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You can still appeal the denial if it happened recently. You have 30 days from the denial date to file an appeal with Washington ESD.

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really?? how do i do that? the denial letter was confusing

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Log into your Washington ESD account and look for the appeals section, or call their appeals line. You'll need to explain why you think you had good cause to quit.

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Medical reasons are another valid good cause for quitting. If your doctor says you can't continue in your current job due to health issues, Washington ESD will usually approve your claim. But again, you need medical documentation.

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Does stress from harassment count as a medical reason? This situation is definitely affecting my mental health.

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It could if you have documentation from a healthcare provider. But you'd probably have better luck with the harassment angle since that's more straightforward to prove.

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Whatever you do, make sure you understand Washington ESD's definition of 'good cause' before you quit. It's not the same as just having a good reason - it has to meet their specific legal standards. I'd suggest talking to an employment attorney if the harassment is severe.

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I can't afford an attorney right now. Are there any free legal resources for this kind of thing?

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Try the Washington State Labor & Industries office or look for free legal clinics in your area. Some unions also provide free consultation even if you're not a member.

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Don't forget that even if you qualify for good cause, you still have to meet all the other Washington ESD requirements - like actively looking for work and being available for work. The good cause just gets you past the 'voluntarily quit' disqualification.

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Right, I'd still need to do the weekly job search reporting and all that. At least I'm already familiar with WorkSource from when I was laid off a few years ago.

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One more thing - if you do quit for good cause, make sure you clearly explain your reasons when you file your initial unemployment claim. Don't just say 'I quit' - be specific about the harassment and that you believe it constitutes good cause under Washington ESD guidelines.

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Good point. I should probably write out a detailed explanation before I file so I don't forget any important details.

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I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks about my own good cause situation but their phone system is impossible. Might try that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier.

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Definitely worth trying. Like I said, it worked for me when nothing else did. The regular Washington ESD phone lines are a nightmare.

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Just remember that quitting should be your last resort. Once you quit, you're at the mercy of Washington ESD's adjudication process which can take weeks or even months. If there's any way to resolve the harassment while keeping your job, that's probably safer financially.

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I've been trying to stick it out but it's getting worse. I'm having panic attacks before work now. I don't think I can wait much longer.

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If it's affecting your health that severely, that might actually strengthen your good cause argument. Consider seeing a doctor and getting that documented too.

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The Washington ESD website has a section about voluntary quit situations that might be helpful. Look under the 'Eligibility Requirements' section - it lists all the good cause reasons they recognize.

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Thanks, I'll check that out. I want to make sure I understand all the requirements before I make any decisions.

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Whatever you decide, document EVERYTHING from now on. Dates, times, witnesses, your attempts to resolve it through proper channels. Washington ESD will want to see a clear pattern of problems and your efforts to fix them before approving your claim.

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I've started keeping a log of incidents. It's actually pretty shocking when you see it all written down like that.

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been in a similar spot and the waiting for washington esd to decide is brutal. took them 6 weeks to approve my good cause claim and i was broke by then. make sure you have some savings if possible

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That's part of why I'm so stressed about this decision. I don't have much in savings and can't afford to be without income for that long.

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If you do end up quitting and filing for unemployment, be prepared for your employer to contest your claim. Most companies automatically fight good cause quit claims, which can drag out the process even longer.

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They'd probably contest it just to be difficult. They've shown they don't care about employee welfare so far.

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That's why having solid documentation is so important. The better your evidence, the more likely Washington ESD will approve your claim even if your employer contests it.

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I used Claimyr too when I needed to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my voluntary quit situation. The agent I spoke with was really helpful in explaining exactly what evidence I needed to submit. Worth the small cost when you consider how much time you save not calling over and over.

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Everyone seems to recommend this service. I might give it a try if I can't get through the regular way.

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Don't forget that Washington ESD will likely schedule a phone interview as part of the adjudication process for a voluntary quit claim. They'll ask detailed questions about your reasons for quitting and what you did to try to resolve the situation first.

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How long are those interviews usually? I want to be prepared with all my documentation ready.

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Mine was about 20 minutes. They go through your whole situation chronologically and ask about any attempts you made to keep your job. Having notes helps a lot.

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The good news is that if Washington ESD approves your good cause quit, you'll get benefits just like if you were laid off. No waiting period or reduced benefits - you just have to prove the quit was justified.

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That's a relief. I was worried there might be penalties even if they approved the good cause.

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Make sure you file your claim right away after you quit if you decide to go through with it. There are time limits on when you can file, and delays can complicate your case.

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Good to know. I'm still weighing my options but I want to understand the whole process before I make a decision.

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Best of luck with whatever you decide. Workplace harassment is serious and you shouldn't have to endure it just to keep a paycheck. Washington ESD does recognize this as good cause, you just need to build a solid case.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice. This has been really helpful in understanding what I need to do to protect myself financially if I decide to quit.

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