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How to leave a job and get unemployment benefits through Washington ESD?

I'm in a really tough situation at my current job and thinking about quitting, but I need to know if I can still get unemployment benefits from Washington ESD. My supervisor has been creating a hostile work environment and I'm having panic attacks before work. Is there a way to quit and still qualify for UI? I've heard about 'good cause' but don't know what that means or how to prove it. Has anyone successfully gotten unemployment after quitting in Washington state?

You can potentially qualify for unemployment if you quit for 'good cause' in Washington. This includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or health issues made worse by work. You'll need to document everything thoroughly though - emails, witness statements, medical records if applicable.

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What kind of documentation would I need for the hostile work environment? I have some emails but mostly it's been verbal.

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Start keeping a detailed log of incidents with dates, times, witnesses present. Save any emails or texts. If you file a complaint with HR, keep copies of that too.

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honestly the unemployment office is going to make you jump through hoops to prove good cause. they assume everyone who quits is just lazy. you better have rock solid evidence or they'll deny your claim

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That's what I'm worried about. I don't want to quit and then be stuck with no income while fighting for benefits.

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I actually quit my job last year due to harassment and got approved for unemployment benefits. The key is filing your claim immediately after you quit and being very detailed in explaining why you left. Washington ESD will investigate and may contact your former employer, so make sure you have your facts straight.

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How long did the investigation take? I'm worried about the gap in income.

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Mine took about 3 weeks for the adjudication decision. During that time you won't get paid, so try to save up some money if possible.

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3 weeks?? I couldn't afford to go 3 weeks without pay. Is there any way to speed up the process?

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Have you considered talking to a lawyer about the hostile work environment first? Sometimes just having a lawyer send a letter can resolve workplace issues without you having to quit. If that doesn't work, at least you'll have legal documentation to support your unemployment claim.

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I hadn't thought about a lawyer. Isn't that expensive though?

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Many employment lawyers offer free consultations. Even if you can't afford to hire one, they can often give you advice on how to document your case properly.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask questions about your specific situation, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you actually reach a human agent. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me hours of calling and getting busy signals.

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That sounds helpful! I've been dreading trying to call Washington ESD because I heard the wait times are terrible.

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is that one of those services that charges you money? seems sketchy to pay someone to make a phone call

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It's legitimate - they just handle the waiting on hold part so you don't have to sit by your phone for hours. When an agent picks up, they conference you in.

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Before you do anything drastic, make sure you understand what 'good cause' actually means under Washington law. It's not just being unhappy at work - it has to be something that would make any reasonable person quit. Things like significant pay cuts, unsafe conditions, illegal activity, discrimination, etc.

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The harassment definitely feels like it would make anyone want to quit. My supervisor yells at me in front of customers and blames me for things that aren't my fault.

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That could potentially qualify, especially if it's creating a hostile work environment. Make sure you document specific incidents and try to address it through proper channels first if possible.

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ugh been there. toxic bosses are the worst. i quit my last job because my manager was a nightmare and guess what? unemployment denied my claim. spent months appealing and finally won but it was hell

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What made them eventually approve your appeal? I want to make sure I do this right the first time.

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i had to get statements from coworkers and show that i tried to resolve it through HR first. the key was proving i had no choice but to quit

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Another important thing - if you do quit for good cause, you need to make sure you don't have any other job options available. Washington ESD will look at whether you tried to transfer to another department, requested a schedule change, or took other steps to avoid quitting.

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We're a small company so there's nowhere else to transfer. I did try talking to my boss about the issues but nothing changed.

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Make sure you document that conversation too! Dates, what was discussed, any follow-up actions.

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Whatever you decide, start looking for other jobs NOW while you're still employed. Even if you qualify for unemployment, it's only a percentage of your previous wages and there are job search requirements you'll have to meet.

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Good point. How many jobs do you have to apply for each week in Washington?

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I think it's 3 job search activities per week, but check the current requirements on the Washington ESD website since they change sometimes.

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Pro tip: if you do file for unemployment after quitting, be 100% honest on your application about why you left. Don't try to make it sound like you were laid off or anything like that. Washington ESD will find out the truth when they contact your employer anyway.

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Thanks, I definitely plan to be completely honest. I'm just worried they won't believe my side of the story.

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thats why documentation is so important. if its just he said/she said they usually side with the employer unfortunately

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Have you looked into whether your workplace has an employee assistance program (EAP)? Sometimes they can help mediate workplace conflicts or provide counseling for work-related stress. Might be worth trying before you quit.

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I don't think we have anything like that, but I'll check with HR. At this point I'm willing to try anything.

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I used Claimyr when I had to deal with Washington ESD about an overpayment issue. Really saved me time and frustration. If you end up needing to speak with them about your potential claim, it's worth considering since their phone lines are always swamped.

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how much does something like that cost though? if someone's already stressed about money...

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I think it was worth it considering how much time I saved, but you can check their website for current info. The peace of mind alone was valuable.

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Just a heads up - even if you qualify for good cause, there might be a waiting period before your benefits start. Make sure you have some emergency savings if possible because the process isn't always quick.

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How long of a waiting period usually? I'm already living paycheck to paycheck.

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It varies depending on how complex your case is. Could be anywhere from a few days to several weeks for the adjudication process.

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my sister went through this exact situation. hostile boss, quit for good cause, got unemployment approved. the trick was she documented EVERYTHING and filed a complaint with HR first even though she knew they wouldnt do anything. showed she tried to resolve it internally

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That's smart. Even if HR doesn't help, it creates a paper trail. How long did the whole process take for your sister?

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about a month from when she filed until she got her first payment. the investigation took a few weeks but they approved her claim

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One more thing to consider - if your health is being affected by the work environment, see if you can get documentation from a doctor. Medical evidence that the workplace is causing anxiety, depression, or other health issues can strengthen a good cause claim.

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I have been having panic attacks and trouble sleeping. Do you think my regular doctor would write something up about work-related stress?

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Most doctors will document symptoms and their potential causes if you're honest with them about what's happening at work. It's part of treating the whole person.

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yes definitely talk to your doctor! work related stress is a real medical issue and having professional documentation helps a lot with these cases

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Remember that even if you get approved for unemployment, you'll still need to actively look for work and report your job search activities. Don't think of it as a long-term solution - use the time to find a better job situation.

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Definitely understand that. I just need something to bridge the gap while I find a healthier work environment.

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If you're still having trouble reaching Washington ESD by phone when you need to discuss your specific situation, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier really does work. I was skeptical at first but it beats spending hours on hold just to get disconnected.

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Good to hear another positive review. I'll definitely keep that in mind if I need to call them.

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yeah the washington unemployment phone system is basically impossible to get through otherwise. anything that helps is worth it

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Bottom line - quitting for good cause is possible but you need to build a strong case. Document everything, try to resolve issues through proper channels first, and be prepared for the investigation process. Don't quit impulsively without a plan.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice! I feel much more prepared to handle this situation properly now. Going to start documenting everything and talk to HR first.

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