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Emma Wilson

Washington ESD good cause to quit for unemployment - need to know if I qualify

I'm thinking about quitting my job due to some serious issues at work but I want to make sure I can still get unemployment benefits. Does anyone know what Washington ESD considers 'good cause' for quitting? My situation involves harassment from my supervisor and they've been cutting my hours dramatically. I've been there for 2 years and really don't want to mess up my chance at UI benefits. Has anyone successfully gotten approved after quitting for good cause?

Washington ESD has pretty strict rules about good cause. You'll need to prove you had no reasonable alternative but to quit. Harassment definitely can qualify but you need documentation - emails, witnesses, HR complaints, etc. Did you report the harassment to HR or management?

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I reported it to HR twice but they basically did nothing. I have the emails I sent to them as proof.

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Good, keep all those emails. You'll need them for your claim. Also document any witnesses who saw the harassment happen.

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The hour reduction might also qualify as good cause if it's substantial enough. Washington ESD usually considers a reduction of 25% or more as potentially qualifying. How much did they cut your hours?

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They cut me from 40 hours to about 15 hours per week. It's been impossible to pay my bills.

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That's a huge reduction - definitely document that too. Get copies of your recent pay stubs showing the hour changes.

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I had to quit for good cause last year due to unsafe working conditions. The key is proving you tried to resolve the issues first and that quitting was your last resort. Washington ESD will want to see that you made reasonable efforts to address the problems before leaving.

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What kind of documentation did you need to provide? I'm worried I don't have enough proof.

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I had written complaints to management, photos of the unsafe conditions, and witness statements. The more documentation the better.

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Honestly, getting through to Washington ESD to even file your claim can be a nightmare. I spent weeks trying to call them about my situation. If you do decide to quit, be prepared for a long wait to get someone on the phone. I actually found this service called Claimyr that helped me get through - they have a system that calls Washington ESD for you. Check out claimyr.com if you get stuck trying to reach them.

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Thanks for the tip! I've heard their phone lines are impossible. How does that service work exactly?

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They basically call Washington ESD repeatedly until they get through, then connect you to an agent. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me so much frustration.

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be careful about quitting!! i quit my job last year thinking i had good cause and washington esd denied my claim. took months to appeal and i barely won. they're really strict about it

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Oh no, what was your situation? I'm getting scared about quitting now.

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my boss was verbally abusive but i didn't document it well enough. learned my lesson about keeping records of everything

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Some other good cause reasons Washington ESD recognizes include: domestic violence situations, medical conditions that make work impossible, significant changes to job duties or working conditions, and relocation of the workplace. The key is always documentation and showing you had no other choice.

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What about if your employer changes your schedule drastically? Like from day shift to night shift?

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That could potentially qualify if it creates a substantial hardship - like childcare issues or transportation problems. You'd need to show you couldn't accommodate the change.

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I work in HR and see this stuff all the time. Washington ESD investigators are thorough - they'll contact your employer to get their side of the story. Make sure everything you claim is accurate and well-documented. They hate inconsistencies.

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Will my employer know I'm applying for unemployment if I quit?

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Yes, they'll get a notice from Washington ESD asking about the circumstances of your separation. Be prepared for them to possibly dispute your claim.

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My sister quit her job for harassment and got approved for UI benefits. The trick is documenting EVERYTHING - dates, times, witnesses, what was said. She kept a detailed journal of every incident.

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That's a great idea about the journal. I wish I had started doing that earlier.

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It's not too late to start! Even if you document recent incidents, it shows a pattern of behavior.

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Whatever you do, don't just walk out without notice. Washington ESD looks more favorably on people who tried to handle things professionally. Give proper notice if possible and document that you did.

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Good point. I'll make sure to give two weeks notice and keep a copy of my resignation letter.

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The adjudication process for good cause quits can take FOREVER with Washington ESD. Mine took 8 weeks to get a decision. Be prepared to wait and have some savings if possible.

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8 weeks?! How did you survive financially during that time?

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It was really tough. I had to borrow money from family and pick up some gig work. The waiting is the worst part of the whole process.

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Make sure you understand the difference between voluntary quit and discharge too. If you can get them to fire you instead of quitting, it might be easier to get benefits. Sometimes employers will agree to that if they know you're going to quit anyway.

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Interesting idea. How would I approach that conversation with my boss?

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Be careful with that approach though. If Washington ESD finds out you manipulated the situation, it could backfire on you.

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I used Claimyr too when I was dealing with a good cause quit situation. Couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks and was getting desperate. They got me connected to an agent who walked me through exactly what documentation I needed. Definitely worth it if you're stuck.

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Seems like everyone's having trouble getting through to Washington ESD. I'll definitely check out that service if I need to.

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constructive discharge is another thing to look into - thats when they make working conditions so bad that any reasonable person would quit. sounds like with the harassment and hour cuts you might have a case for that

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I've never heard of constructive discharge. Is that different from good cause?

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its basically the same thing but constructive discharge puts more blame on the employer for creating impossible conditions

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Just want to add that even if you have good cause, you still need to be actively looking for work to keep getting benefits. Washington ESD requires job search activities every week you claim.

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How many job applications per week do you need to do?

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It depends on your situation but usually 3 job search activities per week. That can include applications, networking, job fairs, etc.

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The Washington ESD website has a good cause worksheet you can fill out. It helps you organize all your documentation and reasons. Definitely use that when you file your claim.

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Thanks! I'll look for that worksheet online.

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My advice is to consult with an employment attorney before you quit if possible. Many offer free consultations and can tell you if your situation truly qualifies as good cause. Better to know for sure before you leave your job.

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That's smart. I should probably do that just to be safe.

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It's worth the peace of mind. They can also help you document everything properly if you do decide to quit.

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washington esd denied my good cause claim initially but i appealed and won. dont give up if they deny you - the appeals process is there for a reason. you can have a phone hearing and present your case

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How long did the appeal take?

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about 6 weeks from filing the appeal to getting the hearing scheduled. then another 2 weeks for the decision

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If you do quit, make sure your resignation letter clearly states it's due to the harassment and hour reduction. Don't just say you're leaving for 'personal reasons' or Washington ESD might not consider it good cause.

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Good tip! I'll make sure to be specific about the reasons in my letter.

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One more thing - keep copies of EVERYTHING. Pay stubs, emails, your resignation letter, any responses from your employer. Washington ESD might ask for documentation weeks or months later and you want to have it ready.

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I'm starting to realize documentation is everything with Washington ESD. Thanks for all the advice everyone!

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Good luck with whatever you decide! The process can be stressful but if you truly have good cause and document it well, you should be able to get benefits. Don't let a bad employer force you to stay in a terrible situation.

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Thank you! This thread has been really helpful. I feel much more prepared now.

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