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What reasons can you quit a job and still get Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I'm thinking about quitting my job because of some serious issues at work but I need to know if I'd still qualify for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. I've heard there are certain 'good cause' reasons where you can quit and still get UI but I'm not sure what those are exactly. My situation involves harassment from my supervisor and they've also cut my hours significantly without explanation. Would either of these qualify as good cause for quitting? I really can't afford to quit if it means I won't get any unemployment benefits while I look for something else.

Washington ESD recognizes several 'good cause' reasons for quitting that can still qualify you for benefits. The main categories are: unsafe working conditions, harassment/discrimination, significant changes to your job duties or pay, domestic violence situations, and health issues that make the job impossible. You'll need solid documentation though - emails, witness statements, medical records if applicable.

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I have been saving emails and texts about the schedule changes. Would that be enough documentation?

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That's a good start but you'll want more. Try to get witness statements from coworkers if possible, and document specific dates/times of incidents.

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Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit for 'good cause' but it's pretty specific. Harassment could qualify if you can document it and show you tried to resolve it with management first. Significant reduction in hours or pay can also be good cause. You'll need solid documentation though - save emails, write down incidents with dates, etc.

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Thanks for the info! I do have some emails saved. How much of a reduction in hours counts as 'significant'? They cut me from 40 hours to about 25 hours per week.

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A reduction from 40 to 25 hours is definitely significant - that's over a 35% cut. Washington ESD typically considers anything over 20-25% to be substantial enough for good cause.

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ugh been there with a nightmare boss. the unpaid overtime thing is actually wage theft which definitely counts as good cause. have you tried filing a complaint with L&I first? sometimes that creates a paper trail that helps with your unemployment claim

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I didn't even think about L&I. Would filing there hurt my chances if I quit and apply for unemployment?

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Actually it helps your case because it shows you tried to resolve the issues before quitting. Washington ESD likes to see you made an effort to fix the problem.

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I went through something similar last year and got approved for benefits after quitting. The key is proving you had 'good cause' which means the working conditions were so bad that any reasonable person would quit. Hostile work environment definitely qualifies if you can document it properly. I had to go through an adjudication process but it worked out.

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How long did the adjudication take? I'm worried about being without income for months.

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Mine took about 6 weeks but that was during a busy period. If you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about your specific situation, I actually found this service called Claimyr that helps you get through to an actual agent. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that explains how it works.

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Be really careful with this decision. Even if you think you have good cause, Washington ESD will investigate and you might be stuck in adjudication for weeks while they decide. During that time you won't get any benefits. If you can document the harassment thoroughly and show you tried to fix the situation first, you have a better shot.

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This is so true. I quit for what I thought was good cause and ended up waiting 6 weeks for them to approve my claim. Nearly lost my apartment during that time.

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That's terrifying. Did they eventually approve your claim though?

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Yes they did approve it but those 6 weeks were hell. Make sure you have savings to cover yourself during the waiting period.

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wait so you CAN get unemployment if you quit?? i thought that was automatic disqualification

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It's a common misconception. You can get benefits if you quit for 'good cause' but you have to prove it to Washington ESD during the adjudication process.

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man i wish i knew this when i quit my last job because of harassment

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Here are the main good cause reasons Washington ESD recognizes: hostile work environment/harassment, significant reduction in pay or hours, unsafe working conditions, discrimination, or substantial changes to your job duties that weren't agreed to. But you MUST try to resolve the issue with your employer first and document everything.

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What counts as 'trying to resolve it'? Do you have to file a formal complaint or is talking to HR enough?

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You should document any attempts - whether it's talking to your supervisor, HR, filing formal complaints, etc. Keep records of what you said, when, and their response (or lack thereof).

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The hostile work environment angle is tricky because Washington ESD wants to see that you tried to resolve it internally first. Did you report the behavior to HR or management? If not, they might question why you didn't try to fix it before quitting. Also, make sure you're not just dealing with a difficult boss versus actual harassment - there's a legal difference.

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We don't really have HR, it's a small company. I did talk to the owner once but nothing changed.

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That conversation with the owner is important - document when it happened and what was discussed. Shows you tried to resolve it.

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honestly i quit my last job because my boss was a nightmare and washington esd denied my claim. took forever to get through to anyone to explain my side. if you're going to do this make sure you have rock solid evidence because they don't just take your word for it

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What kind of evidence did you have? Was it just not enough or did they not consider your reason valid?

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i had some texts from coworkers talking about how bad the boss was but no formal complaints filed. they said i should have tried to resolve it through proper channels first

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That's exactly why documentation is so important. Washington ESD wants to see you made good faith efforts to fix the problem before quitting.

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this is why i never quit jobs even when they suck. too risky with unemployment

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sometimes staying in a toxic job does more damage than leaving though. mental health matters too

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I actually used Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD when I had questions about quitting for good cause. Their site claimyr.com helped me reach an actual agent who explained exactly what documentation I needed. Way better than trying to call ESD directly and getting hung up on constantly. There's even a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Never heard of Claimyr before. How does it work exactly?

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They basically help you get through to ESD agents when the phone lines are swamped. Super helpful when you need specific answers about your situation instead of just guessing from websites.

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Here are the main 'good cause' categories Washington ESD recognizes: 1) Unsafe working conditions or violation of health/safety laws 2) Harassment, discrimination, or hostile work environment 3) Significant reduction in hours or pay 4) Major changes to job duties that weren't in your original job description 5) Employer violating labor laws (like not paying overtime) 6) Domestic violence situations 7) Health conditions that make the job impossible. The key is documentation and showing you tried to resolve issues first.

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This is really helpful. The overtime violations and hostile environment both apply to my situation.

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don't forget you also have to be available for work and actively job searching while on unemployment even if you quit for good cause

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Don't forget about constructive dismissal too - if they make your work environment so intolerable that any reasonable person would quit, that can qualify as good cause. Sounds like between the harassment and hour cuts, you might have a case for that.

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What's the difference between constructive dismissal and just quitting for good cause?

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Constructive dismissal is when the employer basically forces you to quit through their actions. It's treated more like being fired than quitting voluntarily. Hour cuts plus harassment could definitely fall under that.

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This is really good advice. Constructive dismissal claims often have better success rates than regular good cause quits.

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I tried to quit for good cause last year and got denied initially. Had to appeal and it took forever. Make sure you have EVERYTHING documented because they scrutinize these cases heavily. Phone calls, emails, witness statements, anything that proves the working conditions were unreasonable.

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What happened with your appeal? Did you eventually get approved?

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Yeah but it took 4 months total. I should have used something like Claimyr to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD instead of just waiting. Would have saved me a lot of stress.

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the system is so messed up. you can get fired for basically anything and get unemployment but quit because your boss is abusive and suddenly you have to prove everything

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It's frustrating but the idea is to prevent people from just quitting whenever they want and claiming benefits. The good cause requirement ensures there's a legitimate reason.

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whatever you do dont just walk out without trying to fix things first!!! washington esd will ask if you gave your employer a chance to address the problems. if you say no they'll probably deny your claim right away

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I haven't formally complained yet but I have mentioned the issues to my supervisor. Would that count?

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probably not enough. you need to document it properly - email hr, file a written complaint, something official they cant ignore

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One thing to consider - if you quit, you might face a waiting period even if you eventually get approved for good cause. Getting fired (even for performance issues) usually starts benefits immediately while quitting triggers additional review processes. Just something to factor into your decision timeline.

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How long is the waiting period typically?

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There's no set waiting period - it depends on how long the adjudication takes. Could be 2-8 weeks depending on your case complexity and current workload at Washington ESD.

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The harassment angle is tricky because Washington ESD will want to see evidence it was severe enough to justify quitting. Keep a detailed log of every incident - dates, times, witnesses, what exactly was said or done. Screenshots of texts or emails are gold.

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Also check if your company has an employee handbook with harassment policies. If they're not following their own procedures that strengthens your case.

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Good point about the handbook. I should check what our official harassment policy says.

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I quit for good cause last year and it took 8 weeks to get approved. The key was having everything documented - I had emails, witness statements, records of complaints to HR, everything. Still took forever though because Washington ESD has to investigate thoroughly.

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8 weeks?! That's brutal. How did you survive financially during that time?

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Had to borrow money from family and pick up some gig work. Not ideal but better than staying in a toxic job that was affecting my health.

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Another option is trying to get laid off instead of quitting. Sometimes if you document the issues and present them to management, they'll agree to a separation that looks better for unemployment purposes.

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How would that work exactly? Just ask them to lay me off instead?

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More like presenting the documented issues and suggesting a mutual separation agreement. Some employers will agree to avoid potential legal issues.

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This can work but be careful - if they think you're trying to game the system they might fire you for cause instead.

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honestly if the working conditions are that bad maybe try to get yourself fired instead of quitting? like stop working the unpaid overtime and see what happens

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That's risky advice. If you deliberately try to get fired, it could be considered misconduct which would disqualify you from benefits entirely.

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true but refusing to work unpaid isn't misconduct, it's following labor laws

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OP, document EVERYTHING going forward. Start a detailed log with dates, times, what happened, any witnesses. The more evidence you have, the stronger your good cause argument will be. Also keep copies of your job description, company policies, anything that shows how your working conditions violate what you agreed to.

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Should I be obvious about documenting things or try to be discrete?

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Be discrete for now but thorough. You don't want to tip them off that you're building a case.

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my friend quit for hostile work environment and got approved but it took months of back and forth with Washington ESD. she said the hardest part was actually getting someone on the phone to explain what documentation they needed

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - they solve that phone problem. Way easier than spending hours trying to get through yourself.

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Don't forget about constructive dismissal too. If they're making your working conditions so bad that any reasonable person would quit, that's basically the same as being fired. Washington ESD recognizes this but you need strong evidence that the employer was trying to force you out.

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The constant schedule changes and unpaid overtime demands definitely feel like they're trying to make me quit.

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That could be constructive dismissal if you can prove it was intentional. Do they treat other employees the same way or just you?

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whatever you decide make sure you file your unemployment claim immediately after quitting. don't wait because there's usually a one week waiting period anyway and you want to get the process started asap

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Good point. I've been putting off the decision but if I'm going to do it, I should probably move quickly.

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I'm going through a similar situation right now actually. Filed for unemployment after quitting due to unsafe working conditions and Washington ESD approved me pretty quickly once I provided all the documentation. The key was having specific examples with dates and showing I reported the safety issues multiple times.

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That's encouraging! How long did it take from filing to getting your first payment?

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About 3 weeks total. The adjudication was only 10 days once they had all my paperwork.

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just remember that even if you get approved for quitting with good cause, you still have to meet all the other unemployment requirements. work search, available for work, reporting any income, etc. the good cause just gets you past the initial disqualification

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Right, I'll still need to do job searches and weekly claims. At least I'll be looking while getting some income though.

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One more thing - if you're considering quitting, try to time it strategically. Like don't quit right before a holiday weekend when offices are closed and you can't file immediately. Also consider if you have any vacation pay or final paychecks coming that might affect your benefit timing.

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I do have some vacation time accrued. Should I use it up first or will that complicate things?

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Use it first if possible. Washington ESD considers vacation pay as wages which could delay your benefit start date if paid after you quit.

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honestly the whole system seems designed to discourage people from quitting even when they should. but if your situation is genuinely toxic and you have documentation, don't let the bureaucracy scare you away from protecting your mental health and wellbeing

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Thanks for saying that. I've been feeling guilty about even considering quitting but you're right that my wellbeing matters too.

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Absolutely. Good cause exists for a reason - to protect workers from impossible situations. Just make sure you build a strong case first.

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Here's something most people don't know - even if Washington ESD initially denies your claim for quitting, you can appeal the decision. The appeal process gives you another chance to present your evidence and explain your situation in detail.

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How long does the appeal process take?

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Usually 4-6 weeks for a hearing to be scheduled, then another few weeks for the decision. But appeals often have better success rates than initial claims.

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i used claimyr when dealing with my quit situation too and it was super helpful. getting to actually talk to someone at washington esd made all the difference in understanding what they needed from me

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Did they help you figure out if your reason qualified as good cause?

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yeah the agent walked me through exactly what documentation i needed and how to present my case. saved me weeks of guessing

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Don't forget about unsafe working conditions too - if they're not following safety protocols or putting you at risk, that's definitely good cause for quitting. COVID made this even more relevant with employers not following health guidelines.

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Safety violations are taken really seriously by Washington ESD. Document everything and report to L&I if necessary.

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My situation is more about harassment and hour cuts, but good to know about safety issues too.

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The most important thing is timing - don't wait too long after the incidents to quit or Washington ESD might question why you stayed if things were really that bad. But also don't quit immediately without giving them a chance to fix it.

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That's a good point about timing. The harassment has been ongoing for about 2 months now and the hour cuts started 3 weeks ago.

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That timeline works in your favor - shows ongoing issues but not so long that it looks like you were okay with it.

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whatever you decide make sure you file your unemployment claim immediately after quitting. waiting even a few days can hurt your case and delay your benefits

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Good reminder. I'll make sure to file right away if I decide to go through with quitting.

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Last thought - consider consulting with an employment attorney before you quit. Many offer free consultations and can tell you if your situation likely qualifies for good cause. Better to know upfront than find out after you've already quit.

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That's actually really smart advice. I hadn't thought about talking to a lawyer first.

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Employment lawyers often know exactly what Washington ESD looks for in good cause cases. Worth the consultation fee for peace of mind.

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Just went through this exact situation myself. The combination of harassment and significant hour cuts you're describing could definitely qualify as good cause, but you absolutely need to document everything first. Start keeping a detailed log of every incident - dates, times, what was said/done, any witnesses present. Save all emails and texts related to the schedule changes. Most importantly, you need to show Washington ESD that you tried to resolve these issues before quitting. Even if your company doesn't have HR, document any conversations you've had with your supervisor or the owner about these problems. If you haven't formally complained yet, do that first and keep records of their response (or lack thereof). The adjudication process can take several weeks, so make sure you have some savings to cover that gap. But don't let the bureaucracy stop you from protecting your wellbeing if the situation is truly toxic.

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I'm curious about the documentation piece - when you say "detailed log," do you mean just writing things down in a notebook or is there a more formal way I should be tracking incidents? Also, how specific do the witness statements need to be? Like do coworkers need to write formal letters or would text messages where they mention seeing the harassment be enough?

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