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Miguel Diaz

Can you get unemployment if you quit Washington ESD benefits eligibility

I'm thinking about quitting my job because my manager has been making work conditions really difficult lately. But I need to know - can you get unemployment if you quit in Washington? I've heard different things from people and I'm not sure what's actually true. I can't afford to be without income but I also can't keep dealing with this situation at work. Does Washington ESD have any exceptions for when you quit? What do I need to prove?

Generally no, you can't get unemployment if you quit voluntarily. Washington ESD will deny your claim unless you can prove you had 'good cause' for quitting. The burden of proof is on you to show why you HAD to quit.

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What counts as good cause? Is a hostile work environment enough?

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Hostile work environment can qualify but you need documentation. Emails, witness statements, complaints to HR - anything that shows you tried to resolve it first.

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I quit my job last year and got approved for unemployment. You just have to have the right reasons and be able to prove them to Washington ESD.

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What was your reason if you don't mind me asking? I'm in a similar situation.

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Unsafe working conditions. I had photos and incident reports that I filed with my supervisor. Took about 3 weeks for Washington ESD to approve my claim after the adjudication.

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You can get unemployment if you quit for good cause connected to work. Washington ESD looks at things like harassment, discrimination, unsafe conditions, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or domestic violence situations. The key is documenting everything and showing you tried to resolve the issue before quitting.

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How do you document harassment if it's mostly verbal and happens when no one else is around?

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Keep a detailed log with dates, times, what was said. Report it to HR or management in writing so there's a paper trail. Even if they don't act on it, you'll have proof you tried to address it through proper channels.

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This is really important advice. I tried to get benefits after quitting due to harassment but had no documentation and got denied. Had to appeal and it was a nightmare.

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Whatever you do, don't just quit without having your ducks in a row first. Washington ESD will assume you quit without good cause and deny your claim. Then you'll have to go through the whole appeals process which can take months.

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How long does the appeals process usually take?

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Mine took about 6 weeks from filing the appeal to getting a hearing scheduled. Then another 2 weeks for the decision. That's a long time to go without income.

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One thing people don't realize is that even if you have good cause, Washington ESD might still put you through adjudication to verify everything. Be prepared to wait several weeks for a decision even with good documentation.

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Ugh the adjudication process is the worst. Mine took 5 weeks and they never even told me what they were reviewing.

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During adjudication they're usually contacting your former employer to get their side of the story. That's why it takes so long - they have to give the employer time to respond.

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I quit my job because my hours got cut to basically nothing and I couldn't survive on 8 hours a week. Washington ESD approved my claim because they considered it constructive dismissal - basically like being fired without actually being fired.

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That's interesting, I didn't know they had categories like that. How much did your hours have to be cut?

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I went from 35-40 hours a week to 8-12 hours. The Washington ESD rep said anything below 20 hours when you were previously full-time can be considered constructive dismissal if there's no business reason for it.

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Has anyone dealt with quitting because of a schedule change? My employer wants to move me to graveyard shift and I have kids so I literally can't do that.

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Significant schedule changes can qualify as good cause, especially if you have childcare issues that make the new schedule impossible. Document your childcare situation and any attempts to work out an alternative with your employer.

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Thanks, I'll start documenting everything now before I make any decisions.

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Just went through this whole process. The most important thing is don't quit on impulse. Take time to document everything, try to resolve it internally first, and understand that even with good cause you might face weeks without income while Washington ESD investigates.

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Did you end up getting approved?

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Yes but it took 4 weeks of adjudication and I had to provide like 15 different documents. Emails, photos, witness statements, medical records - they wanted everything.

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Another option is trying to get your employer to lay you off instead of quitting. Sometimes if you explain your situation they'll work with you, especially if they know the work environment is problematic.

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That's actually not a bad idea. Getting laid off is way easier for unemployment benefits than trying to prove good cause for quitting.

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My friend did this - talked to her manager about the situation and they agreed to let her go with a layoff instead of forcing her to quit. Much easier process with Washington ESD.

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For anyone reading this thread, make sure you understand the difference between 'good cause connected to work' and 'good cause not connected to work'. Washington ESD treats these very differently and most personal reasons don't qualify.

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What's the difference? I'm confused about the terminology.

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Good cause connected to work means the employer did something wrong - harassment, unsafe conditions, etc. Good cause not connected to work is usually things like domestic violence or major illness. The first one can get you unemployment, the second usually can't unless it's very specific circumstances.

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I tried calling Washington ESD for weeks to ask about my quit situation and could never get through. Finally used that Claimyr service someone mentioned and actually got to talk to a real person who explained exactly what I needed to do. Saved me so much frustration.

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How does that work exactly? Do they just call for you?

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Yeah basically they handle the calling and waiting on hold, then connect you when they get an agent. Way better than sitting there for hours listening to that awful hold music.

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Important reminder that even if you qualify for unemployment after quitting, you still have to meet all the other requirements like job searching and being available for work. Washington ESD doesn't make it easy.

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Good point, I hadn't thought about the ongoing requirements.

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Yeah you have to log 3 job search activities per week and be ready to take suitable work. Just because you qualified initially doesn't mean you can slack off on the requirements.

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One more thing - if you're thinking about quitting, consider talking to an employment lawyer first. Some situations that seem hopeless actually have legal remedies, and having lawyer documentation can really help with your unemployment claim.

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This is excellent advice. Many employment lawyers will do a free consultation and can tell you if you have a case or at least what documentation you need.

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Thanks everyone, this has been really helpful. I'm going to start documenting everything and see if I can resolve this before making any hasty decisions.

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The whole system is set up to discourage people from quitting and claiming benefits. Even with legitimate good cause, expect to fight for it and be prepared with tons of documentation.

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So true. I had a slam dunk case with my supervisor sexually harassing me and it still took 6 weeks and an appeal to get approved.

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That's awful but unfortunately not surprising. Washington ESD seems to assume everyone is trying to game the system.

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Final thought - if you do quit and file for unemployment, be completely honest in your application about why you quit. Trying to hide it or be vague will just make things worse when they investigate.

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That makes sense. Transparency is probably better than trying to avoid the topic.

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Exactly. They're going to find out anyway when they contact your employer, so you might as well control the narrative from the start.

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