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Yuki Yamamoto

Can you get unemployment if you quit your job in Washington? Need answers fast

So I'm in a really bad situation at work and thinking about quitting but I need to know - can you actually get unemployment benefits from Washington ESD if you quit your job? I've heard different things from people and I'm getting conflicting info online. My boss is making my life hell and the work environment is toxic but I can't afford to be without income. Does anyone know the real rules about this? I've been at this job for 2 years if that matters.

Generally no, you can't get regular unemployment if you quit voluntarily. Washington ESD considers that 'leaving work without good cause' and you'll be disqualified. There are some exceptions but they're pretty specific - like if you quit for documented harassment, unsafe working conditions, or significant changes to your job that weren't part of the original agreement.

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What kind of documentation would I need for harassment? I have some emails but not sure if that's enough.

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You'd need a paper trail - emails, written complaints to HR, witness statements if possible. Washington ESD is pretty strict about proving 'good cause' for quitting.

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I quit my job last year and got denied for benefits initially. Had to go through the whole appeal process and it was a nightmare trying to get through to anyone at Washington ESD to explain my situation.

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How long did the appeal take? And were you eventually approved?

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Took about 6 weeks for the appeal hearing. I did get approved eventually because I had medical documentation that my job was making my condition worse.

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If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD about quit situations, I had success using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to actually get through to a real person. They have this system that helps you navigate the phone queues and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Was able to get clarification on my specific quit situation without spending hours on hold.

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Never heard of that service before. Did they charge you a lot to use it?

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They don't require any personal info upfront and it was worth it just to avoid the endless busy signals. Helped me understand exactly what documentation I needed for my quit situation.

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Interesting, might have to check that out. I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my quit situation.

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The key thing is 'good cause' - Washington ESD has a specific definition for this. It has to be something that would make any reasonable person quit. Things like not getting paid, dangerous working conditions, discrimination, or major changes to your job duties or schedule that weren't agreed to originally.

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Mei Liu

What about if your boss is just a complete jerk but not technically harassing you? Like just being unreasonable and micromanaging?

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Unfortunately personality conflicts usually don't qualify as good cause unless it rises to the level of creating a hostile work environment that's documented.

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ugh I'm in the same boat! My manager has been making my life miserable for months but I don't think I have enough proof for Washington ESD to consider it good cause. Thinking about just sticking it out until I find another job.

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Yeah that might be the safer option. I'm just worried about my mental health if I stay much longer.

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I totally get that. Maybe document everything going forward just in case it gets worse?

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Also important to know - even if you do have good cause, you still need to make a reasonable effort to resolve the issue with your employer first. Washington ESD will ask if you tried to work things out before quitting.

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I did talk to HR once but they basically brushed me off. Would that count?

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Document that conversation if you can remember details. Date, who you talked to, what you said, their response. All of that could be helpful.

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whatever you do don't just quit without having everything documented perfectly because Washington ESD will deny you and then you're stuck with no income AND no benefits

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That's what I'm afraid of. Seems like it's really hard to prove good cause.

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It is hard but not impossible. I've seen people get approved for quit claims but they had really solid documentation.

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Just to follow up on the Claimyr thing - I used them again recently when I had questions about my quit documentation and they really helped me understand what Washington ESD was looking for. Made the whole process less stressful than trying to decode their website.

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How does that service actually work? Do they call for you or something?

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They help you get through the phone system more efficiently. Check out that demo video I mentioned - explains it better than I can.

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From what I understand the burden of proof is really high for quit cases. You basically have to show that any reasonable person in your situation would have quit. It's not enough that the job sucked or your boss was difficult.

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That's really discouraging. Sounds like most people who quit won't qualify.

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Unfortunately that's probably true. The system is designed to provide benefits for people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own.

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I quit my job for medical reasons last year and got approved but it took forever to get through the process. Had to provide tons of medical documentation and employer records.

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Was it worth going through all that documentation process?

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In my case yes because I genuinely couldn't continue working due to my health condition. But it was a lot of work to prove it.

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Another option might be to see if you can get your employer to lay you off instead of quitting. Sometimes if you explain your situation they might be willing to do that, especially if they're not happy with the situation either.

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Hmm that's an interesting idea. Not sure if my boss would go for that but worth considering.

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I've heard of this working sometimes, especially in small companies where they want to avoid conflict.

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If you do decide to quit, make sure you file your unemployment claim right away even if you think you might be denied. The sooner you file, the sooner the process starts, and if you do end up winning an appeal later your benefits can be backdated.

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Good point. I didn't realize you could backdate benefits if you win an appeal.

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Yes, if Washington ESD eventually determines you had good cause to quit, they'll pay you from the date you filed your initial claim.

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the whole system is set up to make it hard for people who quit to get benefits. I get why but it sucks when you're in a genuinely bad situation at work

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Exactly! Some jobs are just toxic but it's hard to prove that to Washington ESD's standards.

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Unfortunately the law is pretty clear that unemployment is for people who are unemployed through no fault of their own.

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I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it was actually really helpful for getting specific questions answered about quit situations. Saved me a lot of time trying to figure out Washington ESD's requirements on my own.

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Seems like a few people have had good experiences with that. Might be worth checking out.

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Yeah, especially if you're not sure whether your situation would qualify as good cause. They can help you understand what documentation you'd need.

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Before you make any decisions, you might want to consult with an employment attorney. Many offer free consultations and they can tell you if your situation might qualify as constructive dismissal or wrongful termination.

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I hadn't thought about talking to a lawyer. That might be a good idea.

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Even if they can't help with unemployment benefits, they might be able to advise you on other options for dealing with your work situation.

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At the end of the day you have to weigh the risk. If you quit without solid documentation of good cause, you'll probably be denied benefits. But if staying is seriously affecting your health or wellbeing, sometimes you have to prioritize that over the financial risk.

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That's really what it comes down to. Thanks everyone for all the advice, this has been really helpful.

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Good luck with whatever you decide. Just make sure you document everything if you do choose to quit.

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